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Here’s Garou’s calc, Lightning Max just has a bunch of statements of being lightning speed.
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So MHS+ for him is a no?Lightning Max just has a bunch of statements of being lightning speed.
Ooh niceI did this calculation too and I'm waiting for it to be evaluated to post the CRT.
Lightning is MHS+, it’s fine for him.So MHS+ for him is a no?
It should also scale to the heroes that could kill Garou, according to Darkshine (which would really only matter for Tatsumaki and Atomic Samurai).Damn, really nice calc, however it's just Combat and Reaction speed
I guess it could scale to Bang and Bomb aswell, since Bang fought Darkshine
No, don’t compile it. Make it separate.With the 7-B, possibly 7-A+ stuff and who scales to it? Should I compile ti wiuth the Genos and Garou CRT? And wouldn't it be be better if we did that first, and then we would have a better idea of how to scale speed?
It’s cause he’s directly stated to be lightning speed several times.Dunno if gunpowder based kick attacks are solid indicators that Max has Mach 1200 kicks.
I guess I'll let the calc group seem if its usable, but are you really suggesting that the weakest version of DSK is casually faster than the best showing of the Atomic Slash speed wise?It’s cause he’s directly stated to be lightning speed several times.
Mach 700’s feat is not from Sonic, it’s from DSKNot only that, but way faster than Sonic's Mach 700 feat, the same Sonic that was easily dodging DSK
But honestly I'll stay neutral on Lightning's stuff, I do agree with Garou's feat, however
I suppose these upgrades basically extends MHS+ speeds from low dragon level (it's fair to say low dragons would generally be 1.45X faster than DSK) down to high-tiger. Having High Tigers with MHS+ speeds seems like too much, but oh well. As for the Garou upgrade, it's basically extending sub-relavistic speeds (normally the preserve of above dragons and speedsters) to nearly all dragons (except for Bakuzan. He sucks), in fact, shouldn't Royal Ripper downscale since he reacted to red Garou before Garou blew him up?I don't think the gunpowder thing is anything against it, since it is a special shoe made directly for him, and as we see, there are consistent quotes of lightning speed, so there's no reason to ignore that.
And the Atomic thing, too, is not good, since it was super casual Atomic and it still climbs above DSK. It's like in Naruto, Kakashi has a Mach 2k feat and Pain has his best feat a Mach 200, but Mach 2k is not for that reason ignored. In fact, this would only make the MHS / MHS + scale of OPM very consistent
Not really, he couldn't react in time to do anything, so I doubt he scales tbhshouldn't Royal Ripper downscale since he reacted to red Garou before Garou blew him up
He did stab Garou though and say "you!" when he turned around. Surely Garou didn't just let Royal Ripper stab himBut why would High Tigers be MHS +?
Andd no, Royal Ripper doesn’t go up, he was literally stomped
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. He did react, but he was a couple times slower than Garou. Where in Sub-rel is Garou going to be again?I still don't think he should get straight up sub relativistic, he should get at least MHS+ imo
His calc is 1.2% speed of light. Barely above base Sub-rel.Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. He did react, but he was a couple times slower than Garou. Where in Sub-rel is Garou going to be again?
Thank goodness, otherwise we might end up with a FTL BoS sonic or somethingIf the MHS+ upgrade is accepted there will be no speed upscaling. Everyone who does scale would just be MHS+ if they don't scale to another feat.
nAniThank goodness, otherwise we might end up with a FTL BoS sonic or something
That would be hilarious lolThank goodness, otherwise we might end up with a FTL BoS sonic or something
Strength wise yes, but there's no concrete speed multipliers that would push them into a higher tier.Considering characters from that point grew significantly.
I agree here.Strength wise yes, but there's no concrete speed multipliers that would push them into a higher tier.
RR is only a demon, and he barely reacted to Garou, he should only get at least MHS+, as Garou feat is barely above baseline sub relativistic , as stated earlier, and only those who scale to or above garou would scale to his speedSo the question now is: who do you think will be scaling to Garou's feat? Every dragon? Is Garou even fully considered a dragon at that point considering Royal Ripper pierced him? It's hard to know. I guess dragon levels could scale, since Royal Ripper somewhat reacted to him.
I know RR just downscales, but what characters could scale?RR is only a demon, and he barely reacted to Garou, he should only get at least, as stated earlier, and only those who scale to or above garou would scale to his speed