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Mediocre art? Jesus Christ what the hell? I hope you know how that makes you sound. Saying "factually true by Murata's standard" doesn't help. The art is the same as it has been for the past, like, 100 chapters. I think the Saitama at the start was drawn more cartoony and cute, sure, but that's just different styles. That's not evidence the art has "objectively" fallen off.You bring up the table scene as if it’s wrong to critique it.
If I think a 6 year build up of Garou is being payed off with mediocre art (factually true by Murata’s standards), terrible writing (my opinion but one that I have voiced even without mentioning the webcomic), and a lack luster battle, I’m gonna critique it.
The person you are replying to is one of those elitists. They try to hide it, but is so easy to see them for what they are.Mediocre art? Jesus Christ what the hell? I hope you know how that makes you sound. Saying "factually true by Murata's standard" doesn't help. The art is the same as it has been for the past, like, 100 chapters. I think the Saitama at the start was drawn more cartoony and cute, sure, but that's just different styles. That's not evidence the art has "objectively" fallen off.
I mean we've had this discussion on Garou's writing. This Garou has always, (until now), been portrayed as more human, and less of a force of nature, so this change is consistent. Even back 60+ chapters ago, Garou blocking "Death Shower" "coincidentally", deflected it perfectly away from the house, only damaging its sides, preventing Tareo from dying.
Almost like it's a consistent part narrative that Garou's fights don't hurt civilians, and usually protect them instead. Not to mention anyone with a brain, (which Saitama has), would see that Garou has killed nobody, and is just a lost and broken young adult. Tareo caring for him confirms as much, and it would be pretty immoral for Saitama to see this, and just beat the sh*t out of him anyways without trying to help him.
While it was not meant to be a personal attack on you, it is a pretty objective fact that the vast majority of your critiques were related to the WC. For every "SC killed the pacing" arguments, you had 10 "but in the Webcomic there was an S class fight" talking points.
This is fine, like what you like, and what you don't for your own reasons. The issue is that you package those arguments as objective critiques of the story, calling it "sh*t", and poking fun at people who enjoy the Manga, when no one does the same for you and the WC.
I'd love to actually discuss this piece of art's (because yes, I think Manga, just like television and books can qualify as art) merits with you.
The difference between having a character fill a force of nature roll, versus a confused antagonist is major, and the narrative consequences are something worth discussing, and if it's good or bad is also up for discussion. I have simply posited that it is consistent with this representation of Garou.
He’s literally going to be fine smhgenos no.....
If I think a 6 year build up of Garou is being payed off with mediocre art.
Well if you were going to criticize his art it would be due to larger amount of background less panels and everyone becoming glowy to easily separate then from the background.Mediocre art? Jesus Christ what the hell?
In the Russian community, one in three calls him Boris, not Boros. I'm surprised you only now found out about this from reddit."Boris"
funny that they don't like this argument when ppl tried to scale Garou to Boros, but now that Garou is stronger, they want to use the argument to scale Boros to GarouBecause ONE said so
A lot of people on reddit are very accepting of Garou >>> Boros. I though a fan war was going to start but people moved on quick. Of course there’s still people like that person.That one dude on the reddit that insists Boros is Star Level and is equal to cosmic Garou is gonna be in shambles
Maybe him tanking the Consecutive Normal Punches is the best argument, at least for physicalsProving 4 armed Garou is stronger would legit be hard outside this site with the earth bulging panel being removed
The bulge is gone, but the feat shown is still 5C, like 23 Exatons if I remember correctly.Proving 4 armed Garou is stronger would legit be hard outside this site with the earth bulging panel being removed
You can't expect calcs to work on outside the siteEven if Boros was star level with CSRC, that would mean his entire life force = One charge up attack from Cosmic Fear Mode Garou.
The issue is that Boros is fast for the verse, but Garou is an actual speedster. Even in his 6B form, he's about 4 times faster than Boros. How I see it, Boros wins due to pure strength until for armed Garou, who now is superior in AP, as well as vastly in speed. Then Boros one shots with CSRC (Because the Moon Level calc is valid in my view)
The bulge is gone, but the feat shown is still 5C, like 23 Exatons if I remember correctly.
So math just doesn't exist outside of VSBW. Makes total sense.You can't expect calcs to work on outside the site
You mention the feat being 5-C, they say "we don't that here" and it's over
Not even talking about cartoon style art. I’m speaking about the art itself. We are talking about Garou vs Saitama before the table moment was redrawn out as it was intended to be the conclusion of their fight in the manga and the climax of the arc right? There are zero moments in that battle that compare to the art quality of Saitama vs Boros or S-Class vs Melz or even Garou vs Orochi or even Tatsumaki vs Psykos where nearly every panel are extremely detailed. Knowing the process behind how Murata illustrates the manga it is, very well within his capabilities to do so as he has pre-drawn panels that take time weeks before they appear in a chapter. How was I wrong for complaining about that?Mediocre art? Jesus Christ what the hell? I hope you know how that makes you sound. Saying "factually true by Murata's standard" doesn't help. The art is the same as it has been for the past, like, 100 chapters. I think the Saitama at the start was drawn more cartoony and cute, sure, but that's just different styles. That's not evidence the art has "objectively" fallen off.
What are you even arguing here?I mean we've had this discussion on Garou's writing. This Garou has always, (until now), been portrayed as more human, and less of a force of nature, so this change is consistent. Even back 60+ chapters ago, Garou blocking "Death Shower" "coincidentally", deflected it perfectly away from the house, only damaging its sides, preventing Tareo from dying.
Almost like it's a consistent part narrative that Garou's fights don't hurt civilians, and usually protect them instead. Not to mention anyone with a brain, (which Saitama has), would see that Garou has killed nobody, and is just a lost and broken young adult. Tareo caring for him confirms as much, and it would be pretty immoral for Saitama to see this, and just beat the sh*t out of him anyways without trying to help him.
I bring up the webcomic more because I don’t believe in the argument that comparing the webcomic to the manga is invalid. I’ve always been open to not bringing up the webcomic in my complaints and I actually haven’t brought it up for the last few chapters. My complaints recently are just about the manga itself.While it was not meant to be a personal attack on you, it is a pretty objective fact that the vast majority of your critiques were related to the WC. For every "SC killed the pacing" arguments, you had 10 "but in the Webcomic there was an S class fight" talking points.
I shouldn’t have to say my arguments are not objective, anyone has always been open to address them or critique it themselves and I don’t think I’m ever disrespectful when actually voicing my critiques. Sure I poke fun at those who enjoy the manga but that’s all it is, it’s not serious.This is fine, like what you like, and what you don't for your own reasons. The issue is that you package those arguments as objective critiques of the story, calling it "sh*t", and poking fun at people who enjoy the Manga, when no one does the same for you and the WC.
You gotta start over because I have no idea what portion of the manga you are talking about.I'd love to actually discuss this piece of art's (because yes, I think Manga, just like television and books can qualify as art) merits with you.
The difference between having a character fill a force of nature roll, versus a confused antagonist is major, and the narrative consequences are something worth discussing, and if it's good or bad is also up for discussion. I have simply posited that it is consistent with this representation of Garou.