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[jplion123]

A lot of them are accepting of Cosmic Garou being stronger, but four-armed Garou is where it gets divisive

 

[Andytrenom]

Proving 4 armed Garou is stronger would legit be hard outside this site with the earth bulging panel being removed

 

[Andytrenom]

Well, Extreme Fajin vs CSRC would be at least

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Proving 4 armed Garou is stronger would legit be hard outside this site with the earth bulging panel being removed

Maybe him tanking the Consecutive Normal Punches is the best argument, at least for physicals

 

[FluffyCreatureZ]

When does the chapter with translation get published?

 

[Cryo123]

Even if Boros was star level with CSRC, that would mean his entire life force = One charge up attack from Cosmic Fear Mode Garou.

The issue is that Boros is fast for the verse, but Garou is an actual speedster. Even in his 6B form, he's about 4 times faster than Boros. How I see it, Boros wins due to pure strength until for armed Garou, who now is superior in AP, as well as vastly in speed. Then Boros one shots with CSRC (Because the Moon Level calc is valid in my view)

Proving 4 armed Garou is stronger would legit be hard outside this site with the earth bulging panel being removed

The bulge is gone, but the feat shown is still 5C, like 23 Exatons if I remember correctly.

 

[Andytrenom]

"Outside this site"

No one will believe slightly denting the earth is above blowing away the earth's surface

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Even if Boros was star level with CSRC, that would mean his entire life force = One charge up attack from Cosmic Fear Mode Garou.

The issue is that Boros is fast for the verse, but Garou is an actual speedster. Even in his 6B form, he's about 4 times faster than Boros. How I see it, Boros wins due to pure strength until for armed Garou, who now is superior in AP, as well as vastly in speed. Then Boros one shots with CSRC (Because the Moon Level calc is valid in my view)

The bulge is gone, but the feat shown is still 5C, like 23 Exatons if I remember correctly.

You can't expect calcs to work on outside the site

You mention the feat being 5-C, they say "we don't that here" and it's over

 

[Cryo123]

You can't expect calcs to work on outside the site

You mention the feat being 5-C, they say "we don't that here" and it's over

So math just doesn't exist outside of VSBW. Makes total sense.

 

[Magmag]

With saitama holding genos' core, i think that all its gonna take is one punch.

 

[Lightning_XXI]

Also like it was said above, a statement about nuking the Earth's Surface sounds far more menacing then what Orochi or Psykorochi did, and to a certain point, they are not wrong, cuz pretty sure Murata and One themselves also sees that way. While VS doesn't use narrative and that kind of implication, they are used outside even more than math

That only loses to anything from Saitama and maybe GRB

 

[Cryo123]

Also, I'm ngl, I think out current whipping away the Earth's surface calc is such unbashed rubbish it needs to be removed.

 

[Dienomite22]

Mediocre art? Jesus Christ what the hell? I hope you know how that makes you sound. Saying "factually true by Murata's standard" doesn't help. The art is the same as it has been for the past, like, 100 chapters. I think the Saitama at the start was drawn more cartoony and cute, sure, but that's just different styles. That's not evidence the art has "objectively" fallen off.

Not even talking about cartoon style art. I’m speaking about the art itself. We are talking about Garou vs Saitama before the table moment was redrawn out as it was intended to be the conclusion of their fight in the manga and the climax of the arc right? There are zero moments in that battle that compare to the art quality of Saitama vs Boros or S-Class vs Melz or even Garou vs Orochi or even Tatsumaki vs Psykos where nearly every panel are extremely detailed. Knowing the process behind how Murata illustrates the manga it is, very well within his capabilities to do so as he has pre-drawn panels that take time weeks before they appear in a chapter. How was I wrong for complaining about that?

I mean we've had this discussion on Garou's writing. This Garou has always, (until now), been portrayed as more human, and less of a force of nature, so this change is consistent. Even back 60+ chapters ago, Garou blocking "Death Shower" "coincidentally", deflected it perfectly away from the house, only damaging its sides, preventing Tareo from dying.

Almost like it's a consistent part narrative that Garou's fights don't hurt civilians, and usually protect them instead. Not to mention anyone with a brain, (which Saitama has), would see that Garou has killed nobody, and is just a lost and broken young adult. Tareo caring for him confirms as much, and it would be pretty immoral for Saitama to see this, and just beat the sh*t out of him anyways without trying to help him.

What are you even arguing here?

While it was not meant to be a personal attack on you, it is a pretty objective fact that the vast majority of your critiques were related to the WC. For every "SC killed the pacing" arguments, you had 10 "but in the Webcomic there was an S class fight" talking points.

I bring up the webcomic more because I don’t believe in the argument that comparing the webcomic to the manga is invalid. I’ve always been open to not bringing up the webcomic in my complaints and I actually haven’t brought it up for the last few chapters. My complaints recently are just about the manga itself.

This is fine, like what you like, and what you don't for your own reasons. The issue is that you package those arguments as objective critiques of the story, calling it "sh*t", and poking fun at people who enjoy the Manga, when no one does the same for you and the WC.

I shouldn’t have to say my arguments are not objective, anyone has always been open to address them or critique it themselves and I don’t think I’m ever disrespectful when actually voicing my critiques. Sure I poke fun at those who enjoy the manga but that’s all it is, it’s not serious.

I'd love to actually discuss this piece of art's (because yes, I think Manga, just like television and books can qualify as art) merits with you.

The difference between having a character fill a force of nature roll, versus a confused antagonist is major, and the narrative consequences are something worth discussing, and if it's good or bad is also up for discussion. I have simply posited that it is consistent with this representation of Garou.

You gotta start over because I have no idea what portion of the manga you are talking about.

 

[Ovrhide]

The clash of just two punches is about to blow the earth up. We don’t need calcs anymore. Narratively speaking, this is superior to what we saw a serious punch do to Boros, which was to split the atmosphere like a thousand miles away.

 

[jplion123]

the thing about Boros is like. yeah CSRC is superior to extreme Fa Jin, but outside of that Garou is superior in AP and speed in pretty much every way, and even then CSRC is a trump card that requires charge time while Extreme Fa Jin just requires Garou to turn two of his arms into jets and fly at you. imo it's not a question of "is CSRC superior to Extreme Fa Jin" and more "will Garou let Boros use CSRC at all"

 

[Swerzye29038]

I feel like God will probably end up being Universe level. His avatars (People endowed with his power) can affect and mimic properties within the universe itself, so it wouldn't be a stretch to say it'll later be revealed that God is the universe itself, or embodies it

 

[Swerzye29038]

I also feel like God's existence will be used to explain Saitama himself. Maybe Saitama is an unconscious manifestation of Gods power, or someone brought into existence to overthrow God

 

[Dienomite22]

Yes. Compare the art of one panel from Garou vs Saitama pre-redraw table sit fight to just this panel which is one of a dozen high quality panels in that fight alone. I can’t see how anyone doesn’t think Murata’s art during OG Saitama vs Garou isn’t mediocre by Murata standards.

 

[Arceus0x]

why is it that people always eat their hearts out complaining about stuff that they dislike (even though they return to it next week) and I am always just sitting there and enjoying whatever story comes out?

 

[Veronica]

Shouldn't Saitama serious punch at the end be stated to be powerful enough to destroy stars. Why only planet level when their fist collide.

 

[RinneItachi]

https://**********/read/imgur/IS756yu/1/1/

 

[BruhMomento0260]

Blast and Garou should get radiation resistance for their profile

 

[AnAverageUsername]

I also feel like God's existence will be used to explain Saitama himself. Maybe Saitama is an unconscious manifestation of Gods power, or someone brought into existence to overthrow God

That would suck

 

[Andytrenom]

why is it that people always eat their hearts out complaining about stuff that they dislike (even though they return to it next week) and I am always just sitting there and enjoying whatever story comes out?

Different people enjoy different things. Also criticizing aspects of a series doesn't mean you aren't interested in the series as a whole

 

[Dienomite22]

why is it that people always eat their hearts out complaining about stuff that they dislike (even though they return to it next week) and I am always just sitting there and enjoying whatever story comes out?

You assume it’s difficult to voice a complaint about the manga.

 

[Arceus0x]

You assume it’s difficult to voice a complaint about the manga.

it isn't, but when there is constant complaining coming from a person then why read it in the first place?

 

[Apeironaxim]

Can we give a shoutout to Blast for actually abusing his portal powers in a logical way? Most portal characters don't do stuff like that, but nah, Blast straight up abused it to pummel Garou

 

[Arceus0x]

Additionally, i keep seeing people complain about what MIGHT happen in the series based on personal theories...and yet nothing has been predicted correctly so far. Garou wasn't fully controlled by god but took his power, the cosmic alliance didn't fight Garou, only Blast did...ect.

 

[Arceus0x]

Can we give a shoutout to Blast for actually abusing his portal powers in a logical way? Most portal characters don't do stuff like that, but nah, Blast straight up abused it to pummel Garou

yeah i like his abilities a lot

 

[jplion123]

Additionally, i keep seeing people complain about what MIGHT happen in the series based on personal theories...and yet nothing has been predicted correctly so far. Garou wasn't fully controlled by god but took his power, the cosmic alliance didn't fight Garou, only Blast did...ect.

facts lmao

 

[Dienomite22]

it isn't, but when there is constant complaining coming from a person then why read it in the first place?

Been with the series for years and such was a reason once but now I’m just entertained by the clichéd writing and such. Like a laugh at it type a way.

 

[Arceus0x]

Been with the series for years and such was a reason once but now I’m just entertained by the clichéd writing and such. Like a laugh at it type a way.

but if you're here to laugh at what you consider bad then what's the point of complaining?

 

[Wardokman69]

God and Blast would probably got reality warping as well

 

[Worthless]

https://**********/read/imgur/IS756yu/1/1/

Interesting so does this mean blast can also generate GRB?

 

[BruhMomento0260]

In terms of hax where do Garou and Blast rank as shown thus far compared to haxy verses like JJK, Bleach, OP and Jojo?

 

[DbzDB2]

can't wait to see how good ole' VIZ ***** up this legendary chapter like they always do. on another note, i'm glad saitama's rage isn't the typical shonen protags SCREAMING and thrashing at the opponent while going on about the importance of friendship. cheesy bullshit like that needs to die.

 

[Kachon123]

Blast and Garou get reality warping

 

[RinneItachi]

Interesting so does this mean blast can also generate GRB?

No. Too vague for anything like that. Wouldn't be shocked if he could but no real indications yet.

Also, Blast has some form of extrasensory perception for being able to tell that the two Serious Punches colliding would shatter the Earth.

 

[sanicspood]

garou should literally have passive radiation manip now

 

[RinneItachi]

In terms of hax where do Garou and Blast rank as shown thus far compared to haxy verses like JJK, Bleach, OP and Jojo?

Not that amazing, but decent for sure. The best hax in the series so far is Garou's new power mimicry, but even that would only be a mid-tier or high-tier hax in some of those verses.