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Wait so the monster form isn't far higher anymore?
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No it is because it is stacked on top of what is already "higher" and it notes in the AP section that he stomped the other three Diamonds including White. Don't worry, it's all pretty clear, lol. When you have "higher" stacked on top of another "higher," that means "far higher," it's standard practice on this site to word things this way when there are multiple "highers" stacked on each other rather than making the second one "far higher," as the stacking already implies it is "far higher."Nickobloke said:Wait so the monster form isn't far higher anymore?
Okay so we need more than just you guys before we can make the edit, Nickobloke and Adem Warlock69! I would like to know what Soupywolf5 and especially what WeeklyBattles think of this idea. It is always possible that Lapis restraining Monster Steven was just PIS, so I'd really like input from Weekly on that!Adem Warlock69 said:I agree with adding a "Future" Lapis Key
The point is that she was only "At Least High 6-A" pre-Future but now should be "likely higher" because she has clearly gotten STRONGER, Weekly.WeeklyBattles said:I dont see the point og a Future Lapis key when she has feats on that level pre-future
Goes and checks that fight-scene again to make sure. YUP, YOU'RE RIGHT!WeeklyBattles said:Blue only broke Laips' chains with her diamond aura which we seen pretty much instantly nullify the powers of other Gems in all of the diamonds, even Steven to an extent was able to cancel out other gem powers (Remember him nulling Lapis' water clones and Pearl's Holo-Pearls?)
Possibly. Thing is though that Blue NEEDING her Aura to break free from Lapis' chains, and Lapis restraining Monster Steven, seems pretty clear cut as far as the "likely higher" thing goes, though. I mean due to it ALSO restraining Monster Steven, shouldn't the Partially Formed Cluster ALSO be "likely higher?" Not FAR higher, but yeah. I'm still personally a fan of upgrading both Lapis AND the Cluster, because it makes no sense for two characters with no "likely higher" in their tiering to be able to restrain a "likely far higher" character. I know people have said this already and been shot down, but honestly it makes no sense to me for Lapis and The Cluster to have their current tiering when they could restrain Monster Steven. LET'S SEE WHAT WEEKLY THINKS!Adem Warlock69 said:wouldn't that have the same problem as the Cluster becoming "At Least High 6-A, likely far higher"? Cause Malachite would be comprable to Monster Steven even Tho He One-Shot Alexandrite?
Okay but then how does this address the issue of two characters who are only High 6-A+ being able to restrain a character who is able to stomp another character (White Diamond) who herself is High 6-A+ likely far higher, for several minutes? Are we to assume that both Lapis' and The Cluster's power in the finale was PIS? But then, what about it being consistent with the fact that Blue Diamond needed her aura to break Lapis' chains? If what you're saying is true then shouldn't we change Malachite to be "At Least High 6-A, likely higher with Water Manipulation?"WeeklyBattles said:Honestly i think that only Malachite should scale to malachite. Lapis was using her water manip as malachite to essentially restrain herself, and from their fight we saw that malachite's water and ice manip are stronger than malachite is physically as it was pretty much undamaged by Alexandrite's attacks and pretty easily restrained and almost crushed her.
TL;DR Lapis shouldnt scale to malachite
Sounds good, so should we edit Lapis and the Partial Cluster to have "likely higher" while citing the feat you just mentioned as well as them restraining Monster Steven (and also Blue in Lapis' case), while also modifying Malachite's tiering to be "At Least High 6-A, LIKELY HIGHER WITH WATER MANIPULATION?" If those edits are being approved then I can go ahead and do them if you guys like, or any of you guys could do them.WeeklyBattles said:They should be 'At least High 6-A, likely higher' scaling from The Cluster's High 6-A feat which was done by it litrally just moving
What feat do you mean, exactly?Adem Warlock69 said:Should the Malachite feat be calculated?
Malachite withstanding the weight of the ocean held on her for weeks on endGoodyfresh said:What feat do you mean, exactly?
You mean like Greg'sWeeklyBattles said:No its just massive
K thanksWeeklyBattles said: