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Steven Universe and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Downgrade

Aren't the rooms are just specifically designed gem tech? Why would they scale in any way to the gems natural AP? I can't remember the episode you're talking about, but from what you described it sounds like the gems didn't survive so they wouldn't scale to that either.
 
I don’t think the gems could survive the collective blast of a star, but maybe there could be a calc of the energy needed from all three of them to sustain it, then scale them that way.

Also I believe the rooms are powered by the gems themselves, as they sustain it. I may be mistaken though.
 
and yeah if diamonds are even a fraction of 4-B or anything remotely close to that, they wouldn't need the cluster



"I want that planet to die. I need my cluster"

gg re
 
This derailing is riveting but I’mma go over the revisions before applying them

  • Lapis Lazuli: Varies (Depending the quantity of water she has access to), Usually Mountain level (She can create water constructs that can easily send Jasper flying and overpower Garnet, create water clones capable of matching the power of the Crystal Gems), up to Multi-Continent level Environmental Destruction with her powers (Stole the Earth's oceans overnight and used them to make a giant tower into outer space while severely weakened with a cracked gem after being imprisoned for thousands of years. As confirmed by Yellow Diamond, a single Lapis Lazuli is able to terraform a planet)
  • Blue Diamond/Yellow Diamond/White Diamond: Since Low 5-B is bullshit, the 4-B calc hasn’t been accepted, and scaling to the Cluster or Lapis’ ED is disputed by the OP I believe the Diamonds would be “At least 6-C” upscaling from the Quartizine Trio unless there’s something I’m missing.
  • Connie Maheswaran should likely be overall 7-A, and lose her Instinctive Reactions
 
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Vizer04 said:
That's... not what i said. The 4-B calc should stay since no one, i repeat, no one has bothered to explain why isn't valid.
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Here's a thought:

Make a thread about the 4-B calc and actually get some people there. IDK why you keep arguing about it here like that's going to call all the calc members to you.
 
Vizer04 said:
That's... not what i said. The 4-B calc should stay since no one, i repeat, no one has bothered to explain why isn't valid.
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For a series with consistent tier 7 feats this is outlier.

It's dumb narratively and makes no sense.

It makes the Cluster weaker than the Diamonds and that's dumb because Cluster = Ships > Diamonds.

The actual blast of the attack holds no AP and if it did it wouldn't be enough to destroy the planet, much less breach tier 4.

You calculated luminosity and that does not translate at all to usable AP because that assumes that the light actually does damage which it does not.

Your argument that Pink would scale to 4-B because she would add actual AP to the attack holds absolutely no weight because it is merely an assumption and you lack any solid evidence to prove that it is the case (To clarify, no direct statements, no clear insinuations, no WoG. You literally have nothing).

Do you want me to keep going or....?
 
Sir_Ovens said:
For a series with consistent tier 7 feats this is outlier.

It's dumb narratively and makes no sense.

It makes the Cluster weaker than the Diamonds and that's dumb because Cluster = Ships > Diamonds.

The actual blast of the attack holds no AP and if it did it wouldn't be enough to destroy the planet, much less breach tier 4.

You calculated luminosity and that does not translate at all to usable AP because that assumes that the light actually does damage which it does not.

Your argument that Pink would scale to 4-B because she would add actual AP to the attack holds absolutely no weight because it is merely an assumption and you lack any solid evidence to prove that it is the case (To clarify, no direct statements, no clear insinuations, no WoG. You literally have nothing).

Do you want me to keep going or....?
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I’m starting to hate this wiki if STAFF MEMBERS keep bitching and complaining about a FICTIONAL CHARACTER’S statistics.
 
Sir_Ovens said:
You came to a fictional character indexing site expecting us not to index fictional characters?

What?
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Stfu go touch some grass if you keep complaining like this. You’re literally putting words in my mouth. You keep saying the statistics are dumb when there are people who have tried their HARDEST to find them.
 
Coolboy6 said:
You keep saying the statistics are dumb when there are people who have tried their HARDEST to find them.
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I'm saying the proposed 4-B tier is dumb. People finding stats do so through their own volition. This is a hobby site and you aren't expected to say thanks or be thanked.
 
Coolboy6 said:
Bro just stfu I’m ******* tired bitch and I can’t ******* sleep.
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6-B is an outlier in one piece even when they are 6-B... I understand... Now come escape with me
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Coolboy6 said:
Bro just stfu I’m ******* tired bitch and I can’t ******* sleep.
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I was reading this thread for funs sake and then I saw this unacceptable display

Coolboy Please Stop it
This is a Debate and everyone hear is entitled to there own thoughts and opinions
It's your task to challenge what others think NOT to mock them for it and to disprove arguments with facts and evidence rather than toxic behavior and ill-mannered

Please Take a Chill Pill and Rest and Return later when your in a better

DaReaperMan said:
Then, like, put on some calm sleep music, shut off your blue light emitting electronic, and go to sleep.
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AND YOU KNOW :poop: BE GOING DOWN ONCE YOU'VE PROVOKED AND SUMMONED THE GRIM REAPER HIMSELF

Just apologize for the bad behavior (or not), leave, get some rest, have a drink, relax and come back once your in a better mood

Bad Behavior IS NOT tolerated here and be careful unless someone might take the initiative to report you (that is of course if you already haven't been reported)

Thank You and Have a Good Day
 
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Ss3micah said:
I was reading this thread for funs sake and then I saw this unacceptable display

Coolboy Please Stop it
This is a Debate and everyone hear is entitled to there own thoughts and opinions
It's your task to challenge what others think NOT to mock them for it and to disprove arguments with facts and evidence rather than toxic behavior and ill-mannered

Please Take a Chill Pill and Rest and Return later when your in a better


AND YOU KNOW :poop: BE GOING DOWN ONCE YOU'VE PROVOKED AND SUMMONED THE GRIM REAPER HIMSELF

Just apologize for the bad behavior (or not), leave, get some rest, have a drink, relax and come back once your in a better mood

Bad Behavior IS NOT tolerated here and be careful unless someone might take the initiative to report you (that is of course if you already haven't been reported)

Thank You and Have a Good Day
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Where did you come from? 😅 is this a mod or something?
Not sure you can say what is tolerated and what is not... 🤔 you would need to ask a mod and bring proof or something, like this...
  • Do not instigate drama or systematically spread toxicity, and follow the instructions in official staff warnings.
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https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Site_Rules
 
Can we stop derailing the purpose of the thread, please?

The topic at hand still has not concluded.
 
This is too confusing for me but I guess I’m neutral but leaning towards agreeing with the thread…

actually I agree with the thread… if you have problems with it, you should make a crt to change things you think is better, you can still discuss why you think it’s this thread is incorrect tho
 
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