Steampunk ~What a Beautiful Discussion Thread~

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

So whether Golden King was in his ultra massive form or not probably became irrelavant due to the fact that Tesla is now stable and his powerlevel have also become more definite

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

So essential he should be the same as his max power before i guess? So keep the first key and just have eos key be the same as his previous max power.

 

[MagiSinbad]

So... i have finished Shikkoku no Sharnoth recently. It was a good Visual Novel, Although i kinda dissapointed since there's no romance development between M and Mary

well, i guess we cant hope much for a guy who forgot how to feel. But until the very end, they still didnt explain what is M's motive for trapping the humanity in Sharnoth. Did they explained it in CD Drama ?

Also, anybody know where does Leo, <<The Omnipotent man>> ( In Sharnoth Webnovel )stand in the verse ? He look like an interesting character to know more about.

 

[Trexalfa29]

So... i have finished Shikkoku no Sharnoth recently. It was a good Visual Novel, Although i kinda dissapointed since there's no romance development between M and Mary
well, i guess we cant hope much for a guy who forgot how to feel. But until the very end, they still didnt explain what is M's motive for trapping the humanity in Sharnoth. Did they explained it in CD Drama ?

Also, anybody know where does Leo, <<The Omnipotent man>> ( In Sharnoth Webnovel )stand in the verse ? He look like an interesting character to know more about.

M's motives are explained in Sharnoth itself. When he's not busy thinking of Golden Eyes, he looks for the one human who won't give up. Trapping all humans within his domain is just a side effect in the long run. Plus, Baron's wish of dumping all of humanity into Sharnoth is kind of his reason for existing, and M may just be playing along.

Leo is more powerful than high tier WIC high command like Machine Lord and Steel Princess, and stronger than any of the Horrors featured in Valusia, when using Giant God.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

@Magi You and me both, but guess you can't expect romance from an unfeeling conceptual being.

@Trex What's golden eyes? Are those the pieces of azathoth?

Not sure who are Machine Lord or Steel Princess though, is he Golden King level?

 

[Trexalfa29]

Golden Eyes are pieces of A.Z.T.T yes.

Machine Lord=Charles LeClerc, Steel Princess=Hilde Rome d'Arc. They are below Golden King in the WIC's command structure.

 

[MagiSinbad]

@Trex What does WIC stand for ? Also thank for the explaination, Trex. But could you tell me when did they say M and Baron being incarnations of Nyarlathotep ? Up until the end, the VN only said they are 2 half of the Black King but no mention of The outer god Nyarlathotep.

Also, i kinda shocked on how nobody talk about HP Lovecraft of WAB series and how "top-tier Husbando" he is in the story : a talented trader, rich, cunning and experienced in dealing with the dark organization, he's even has a legal loli fiancee. Too bad he dont have any interaction with the Cthulhu mythos deities.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

WIC=West India Company i think.

 

[MagiSinbad]

Ah, i see. How big is WIC's influenced to Earth and Kadath ? Zach mentioned about them being a threat that rivalling the <<Society>> itself. Sorry if this is asking too much, i finished Sharnoth with alot of question marks on my head, since it's seem like expecting you to know all of this beforehand

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

That will have to be answered by Trex since i have no clue.

Btw is sharnoth, the only one of the series you have played?

 

[MagiSinbad]

That will have to be answered by Trex since i have no clue.

Btw is sharnoth, the only one of the series you have played?

Yeah, the next would be Gahkthun.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

If you wanted to go with chronologically, it would go inganock>sharnoth>gahkthun.

 

[MagiSinbad]

If you wanted to go with chronologically, it would go inganock>sharnoth>gahkthun.

Nah o3o i'm the guy who save the best for the last. And since people say Inganock has the best stories among Steampunk series, i think i would give Gahkthun a go first

But thank anyway, Ceslestial

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Well imo i rate the series in the order you're going, so sharnoth last, then gahkthun, then the best is inganock.

Don't know how good the other series are though, still waiting on translations (Ó▓Ñ´╣ÅÓ▓Ñ)

 

[MagiSinbad]

2020 : Sona-Nyl english translation, lol

Cant wait for Edison. He look like Archer(Fate/Stay Nigh) in a white suit :v

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Whelp, might as well follow this for here on out ^^;

 

[Rocker1189]

I just want to know, where do you guys get this VN series from?

Also is there a lot of action?

 

[MagiSinbad]

I just want to know, where do you guys get this VN series from?

Also is there a lot of action?

You can buy Gakhthun of Golden lightning on steam. The other 2 translated games are fan translation, so you pretty much can get them right now.

For your latter question, nope. From the main page itself

"As a whole, it's quite strong. Although it's interesting to take into consideration that Steampunk is not a battle series. Even though it involves fighting many times (usually full of esoteric hax more than flashy explosions), those are more of an afterthought to the world building, characters, themes and overtones included in the story. Despite that, the series manages to reach quite high on the power level scale."

 

[Trexalfa29]

@Trex What does WIC stand for ? Also thank for the explaination, Trex. But could you tell me when did they say M and Baron being incarnations of Nyarlathotep ? Up until the end, the VN only said they are 2 half of the Black King but no mention of The outer god Nyarlathotep.
Also, i kinda shocked on how nobody talk about HP Lovecraft of WAB series and how "top-tier Husbando" he is in the story : a talented trader, rich, cunning and experienced in dealing with the dark organization, he's even has a legal loli fiancee. Too bad he dont have any interaction with the Cthulhu mythos deities.

They imply it in a Sharnoth story of the Steampunk Full Voice Fandisk, in a conversation between M and Moran. Where he talks about the Tick Tock Man, and he explains that they share the same "god's name". The story basically confirms M (Black King) to be the Nyarlathotep of the Steampunk World, while Tick Tock Man is the Nyarlathotep that hails from the Historical World. Plus, I also own the Rough Guide to Steampunk, which outright calls M and Baron Nyarlathotep.

WIC=Society. The first is just the second's public name.

 

[Lady_Ashford]

Ooh, never knew there was a thread for Steampunk franchise here

 

[Rocker1189]

You can buy Gakhthun of Golden lightning on steam. The other 2 translated games are fan translation, so you pretty much can get them right now.

Thanks. where do I get the other 2?

 

[Lady_Ashford]

There's this nifty technology called the internet

 

[Rocker1189]

There's this nifty technology called the internet

That is true, but I am too lazy . JK I would look later.

 

[Hykuu]

So, I just finished playing what a shining braves

Is there a order I'm supposed to play these games in? if so what is it? Did i do something wrong by playing what a shining braves first?

 

[Lady_Ashford]

You can play in any order you want. But it's very recommended to play it in the order the games were released. So Souten no Celenaria > Sekien no Inganock > Shikkoku no Sharnoth > Hikari no Valusia > Shiei no Sona-Nyl > Ourai no Ghakthun

Celenaria, Valusia, and Sona-Nyl are untranslated however

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

@magi also another fun fact there is another nyarlatotep in sona-nyl named thomas alva edison :^) So M and Edison are equal normally but after edison ate yog and got kadath's moon well boost Keks (iirc don't @ me)

 

[Hykuu]

Thanks

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

I'm also reading the verses story in the order they are released, although doing that means the quality of each "drops" according to Trexalfa.

It also doesn't matter what order you read them, like any other series that does this, to get into it. For Sakurai's WAB series case here, you'll pretty much be left with however many questions by the end of each VN that happen to reference drop stuff from the previous VN (barring maybe Celenaria because you wouldn't miss anything major at all coming out of it from what Trex has told me in our PM's).

Additionally, I'm also gathering up scans from each of the available translated VN's we got so as to add them onto the pages. So far, most of the scans relate to Golden King and the nature of Critters/Kikai's so I'm just merely getting more by gathering scans of all their abilities to show their demonstrations/actions in the series. Can't say much for Shikkoku for that though but perhaps Sekien and Ourai will do for the most part.

Once Sona-Nyl is fully translated and out (last checked that it was at 55% completion), I'll be reading that one too and grab scans for them. Most importantly will perhaps be Edison/Tick Tock Man who personally appears in that VN himself.

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Seems this thread blew up while i was asleep.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

@Celestial: Had the same feeling as you when I took that nap on that Mondaiji thread yesterday. ^^;

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

Gonna wake this thread up.

So with Sona-Nyl coming around in either '19 or '20, what's one or more expectations you guys have for the VN?

 

[Lady_Ashford]

Nothing much, really.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

I'm just expecting to see what makes Edison so good as a character (in a villain sense, that is).

Also curious of what the protags of Sona are like too. Still have to finish the series in order (and get scans of abilities and whatnot of ones not named Golden King or any of the Critters).

 

[MagiSinbad]

I'm just expecting to see what makes Edison so good as a character (in a villain sense, that is).

Well, dont know much about Edison, but his theme alone already made him a badass cosmic horror villain owo

My expectation for the series ? well, just hope that Sakurai will continue to do her awesome works and give us more of the Cthulhu deities like Shub-niggurath and Hastur. And i just hope we will see Sharnoth's cast again, kinda dissapointed that Dago showed up but with no action, he turned into Mary's dog and that's it :v

Also, since you're gathering scans. I think can help a little.

M could use some of this, i suppose.

since we know that M is entire Sharnoth's itself , we should look at something proberties that Sharnoth has

-He should has control over the concept of time in his conceptual manipulation, since Sharnoth has the power to control the concept of time

-M should has resistance to Time Manipulation too, since in Sharnoth, Time doesnt exist in Sharnoth

-More evidence for "each Sharnoth is infnite in size"

-Scans for M creating a timeloop

Well o3o that's for now, i will look for scan where M's prescene cause people to go panic later and his teleportation too.

However, i have never see him perform this feat " Creation (Can create galaxy sized avatars of himself)". When was did happen ?

Also, full scans for M in actio , if anyone needs :v

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

The galaxy sized avatars along with his conceptual nature is from untranslated side material.

Resistance to time manipulation is redudant since having immeasurable speed grants you that automatically.

He already has time manipulation, not sure about giving concept manipulation over time for being something that doesn't even have that concept though.

 

[Qliphoth_Bacikal]

I've been told by Trex that Edison was the reason that the events of Sona-Nyl happened. I somewhat remember something like Edison trying to prove that love in its abstract notion form of whatever doesn't exist and part of that had to do with turning all of New York into a literal hell...before getting bored of it and just throwing it away like a person having an uncompleted project and not continuing it any further for that reason. (Shrugs).

I think Sakurai as a writer has gotten better since her on-off work with the Nasuverse. I did hear of this story of her Twitter getting raided by some salty Type Moon fans and she had deleted some of her tweets which, according to Trex in one of our PM's this other week, it contained canon mat info on Steampunk so.......yeaaaah...

Which VN are you at so far? I'm currently still in Sekien as I said earlier of going by the order which they were released in (albeit, those of the translated ones since I lack the language to understand any of the rest). That and I can't really comment on any of the stuff about M since I believe Celestial has read it already.

Edit: Okay nvrmind, he answered.

Wow so that's Dagon...

 

[Extreme123dz]

I have a question.

Now i have Gahkthun, Sharnoth and Inganock, so... of the three, what is the recommended to start?

How are these works connected?

Is there extra material to read on the internet? like blogs, secondary stories or side stories, Gaidens, precuels, etc?

 

[Trexalfa29]

I have a question.
Now i have Gahkthun, Sharnoth and Inganock, so... of the three, what is the recommended to start?

How are these works connected?

Is there extra material to read on the internet? like blogs, secondary stories or side stories, Gaidens, precuels, etc?

Veamos...


El orden cronológico es el orden de salida. Lo cual significa que, de los que tienes, el orden cronológico es Inganock->Sharnoth->Gahkthun. Recomiendo que comiences con Sharnoth, luego pases a Gahkthun, y finalmente te pongas con Inganock. Lo digo porque la calidad de la historia no es constante, m├ís que nada.


Cómo est├ín conectados? Suceden en el mismo universo. Aunque, fuera de referencias a otros juegos y una especie de "meta trama" a├║n no resuelta, no son dependientes unos de otros. O sea, que se pueden jugar en el orden que se prefiera. Suceden en dos planetas diferentes, la Tierra, y Kadath (de los que tienes solo Inganock sucede en Kadath. Sharnoth y Gahkthun suceden en la Tierra, llamada Seikyou en Kadath).


Todo lo extra est├í en Japonés y es dificil de conseguir. A parte de Celenaria, Valusia, Tyrhhia o Sona Nyl, a├║n no traducidos... existe un fandisk con historias de todas las VNs, Ourai no Gahkthun: Shining Night (secuela de Gahkthun), numerosas publicaciones exclusivas para Japón en revistas de suscripción de Liar Soft, Celephais (lo poco que hay se puede leer en el blog de Sakurai), y m├ís cosas que me estoy dejando, como una novela (Karsheel) y la novela de Sona Nyl.


De lo extra, lo m├íximo que est├í traducido son unas novelas web que act├║an como sequela directa a Inganock y Sharnoth, las cuales deber├¡as leer tras terminar cada juego. Son muy cortas, y est├ín en inglés. Gahkthun no tiene novela web, y las novelas web de Valusia y Sona Nyl est├ín sin traducir.

 

[Lady_Ashford]

Just got off the train and i'm really tired, so i cannot really make an effort post. But you can start with what you want. I personally started playing Steampunk with Inganock myself. The works are connected in a sense that they happened in the same setting (though Inganock happened in Kadath while Gahkthun and Sharnoth happened in Earth) and events that happened in each game also happened in the same order the games were released (Celenaria happened in 19X2, Inganock happened in 19X3, things like that; but i don't remember the exact year)

Regarding side materials, each VN have a post story WN that tease about the next VN in line (Sharnoth WN giving teaser to Valusia for example). And there are supposedly some fandisc as well. But i don't really know about that. And if i recall correctly, Sakurai also has her own blog, but i might be wrong.

 

[Trexalfa29]

Just got off the train and i'm really tired, so i cannot really make an effort post. But you can start with what you want. I personally started playing Steampunk with Inganock myself. The works are connected in a sense that they happened in the same setting (though Inganock happened in Kadath while Gahkthun and Sharnoth happened in Earth) and events that happened in each game also happened in the same order the games were released (Celenaria happened in 19X2, Inganock happened in 19X3, things like that; but i don't remember the exact year)
Regarding side materials, each VN have a post story WN that tease about the next VN in line (Sharnoth WN giving teaser to Valusia for example). And there are supposedly some fandisc as well. But i don't really know about that. And if i recall correctly, Sakurai also has her own blog, but i might be wrong.

It is the 1900s. Celenaria happens in 1902. Tyrhhia's set even earlier in the 1800s, in a mostly pre-Engine tech Japan. Though I still haven't played that game, so I dunno what to make of it.