Basically we're right now talking about over how Sora has resurrection of himself and others out of the Power of Waking, however, now we're on the issue of up to what level of Regeneration it falls as, right now it would be Low-Godly as there's nothing to match it for an higher rating at the moment, however, as I've brought up, there's a chance for his power being on an High-Godly scale out of the nature of Hearts.
Now, I'll also bring up the stuff that supports Nobodies having Nonexistent Physiology, making it consistent for Hearts to qualify as the "information/concept" as the extra aspect of existance that was deleted to qualify for High-Godly regeneration:
Lexaeus mentions that losing both light and darkness makes one disappear
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Nobodies: They are the rarely born incomplete existences from the cast off shell of a person the Heartless have stolen the heart from"
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Nomura: The ultimate goal of the Organization was to obtain a Kingdom Hearts of the hearts of people and become complete beings, and because Nobodies were a new kind of being beyond all expectations, said to be "nonexistent beings""
The KHII instruction manual also calls them nonexistent beings
"
Master over Nothingness" (Xemnas is called this)
Saix (A Nobody) mentions that once they have KH they can finally exist
Xigbar reaffirms that they don't exist, Luxord also confirms that he (Axel) bet his non-existence as he sacrificed himself
Xemnas mentions over how they're "nothings" and they lack light and darkness
Sora calls the Nobodies has-beens
Dengeki: Though its name has finally been revealed, what kind of group is the “Thirteenth Order”?
Nomura: In Kingdom Hearts 2, the Nobody will appear as something different compared to the Heartless. Those who command the “Nobody” are the Thirteenth Order. Though they are also “Nobody”,
they are a more special type of being all-together.
And the most notable supporting statement comes from a reliable character that's a retired Keyblade Wielder and has been the leader and mentor of the Guardians of Light for decades, Yen Sid,
stating directly over how Nobodies don't truly exist
Lexeaus is talking to Riku about how he'll kill him if he doesn't embrace the darkness
Bob notice the word after incomplete and in context how it's saying they initially start with no hearts hence they're incomplete.
I don't know why you suddenly stopped quoting after non-existent beings, probably because he says right after that "
the lack of background knowledge made it necessary for them to collect information relating to their own condition." Which is the part he's referring to when he says non-existent beings.
For one it's saying nonexistent beings in quotes, quotation marks are used for
so-called and metaphors, also with how Nomura further elaborates on what he means about non-existent beings we ahve a definition of what it's means in context to KH. Finally, I'd like to see the japanese scan regarding this since English game manuals are hardly trustworthy.
"Master Over Nothingness" is not only the most non-evidence since it's merely a title for a character, but it also doesn't mean the king of nothingess you're thinking of. This official guide here explains how he
wields the power of nothingness to create pure energy.
Which leads to it talking about this kind of nothingness, not the literal concept of non-existence, aka ayin.
Dream drop distance revealed that all to be a lie and what he means by "truly, finally exist" is that they can have emotions again and feel something.
You ignore earlier in the scene that Luxord notes he put his existence on the line, as DDD reveals Xigbar was playing along with Xehanort.
I don't know why that final piece of evidence proves non-existent physiology, a has-been is someone that has no more significance, Sora doesn't like the organization, so naturally he'd insutl them.
Nomura's interview proves literally nothing other then that they're special, which yes they are since they're a different kind of enemy type. This provees nothing.
I've explained several times what's wrong with this Yen Sid scene but ig I need to break this down again:
^Yen Sid defines them as "an empty vessel whose heart has gotten away", vessels are containers, which is what a nobodies body is, a container, it's empty due to lacking a heart.
^Yen Sid notes here that the nobody is a
spirit that goes on even as it's body fades from existence since I have yet to receive any actual refute to my soul point I'm going to continue using it. They are directly confirmed to have souls here, now let's look at the definition of nonexistent physiologies page:
"Nonexistent Physiology refers to the ability to paradoxically 'exist',
yet lack any identifiable traits of existence, or
exist outside of a particular scope of 'existence'. While true nonexistence in the philosophical sense is impossible to prove, lesser forms of the idea appear often in fiction."
Now let's look a type 1 of nonexistent physiology:
"1: Material Nonexistence: The lack of any conventional existence.
Such a character will exist as something beyond the normal scope of the physical and metaphysical worlds,
instead existing as an idea or other unconventional state.
Such entities can be conceptualized by individuals, but do not exist in a physical or normal metaphysical form, such as a soul. In terms of binary, this would be a 0, where existence is 1 and nonexistence is 0."
^Literally states in it's own type you cannot exist as a soul to have nonexistent physiology type 1. It also states you need to exist as an idea of some other conventional state, which is
not what a Nobody is, a Nobody is a spirit with a strong heart and will that brings itself back into existence while briefly lacking a heart. The only time a nobody is truly non-existent is when their body is erased at first, afterwards they are completely physical beings.
I was expecting far more arguments for NEP but let me just post all of the problems rq, let me list a few anti feats that completely disproves the idea of NEP Nobodies:
^Axel literally states here that they are not only still existing but that Vexen can be "
nothing instead of a nobody".
Here we see nonexistent dusk having to go
around the columns to go over to Ansem:
The non-existent Luxord gets breathed on by Jack:
And a plot point with KH 3 is they went back to being nobodies:
https://youtu.be/v1-rt_7W_3Q?t=267
https://youtu.be/ywEOBlh7mNs?t=446
So we know they have souls
We know that the NEP thing requires you don't exist in a physical or normal metaphyscial form, such as a soul
We know that NEP requires you lack any identifiable traits of existence.
The only real proof is them saying they don't exist which either in context is contradicted, or in context means something different entirely.
Hell, if you want further confirmation for this, look at one of Ansem's reports where this dude unironically says Namine is a non-being in the truest sense of the word:
Ansem's Reports are a series of pages collected throughout Kingdom Hearts and Kingdom Hearts II. The reports explore the mythology of the series, and focus largely on the nature of beings, what they become, and the nature of darkness and...
www.khwiki.com
Ansem's Secret Report 9:
"In other words, both the Nobody called Naminé and the Heartless—proof of a lost heart—
are extremely unstable beings who lack the bodies needed to produce a Nobody. Therefore, they also lack Kairi's memories. One reason for this maybe that Kairi's heart did not return to the darkness when separated from her body, but rather migrated to another vessel...deep within Sora's heart.
That is, Naminé is an alter ego of the Kairi who has directly interfered with Sora's heart. Could this be why Sora and those hearts are connected to him were able to have their memories controlled?
She is a "non-being" in the truest sense of the word; having not even become a Nobody and with nowhere left to go, she is but the most fleeting of shadows."
Notice how he's saying she's even more of a non-being of a nobody cause she has nowhere left to go, and notice how the talk of non-existence and nothingness equates to not having something rather then being the literal concept of non-existence, aka ayin, and you'd see that NEP nobodies is not remotely consistent. Character statements contradict it, direct screen showings contradict it, and the only real proof I've seen from the side supporting it is that characters or Nomura who is just proving with every one of these interviews I'm being linked that he makes up this story as he goes along happen to say they don't exist or are nothing, when that means far more then just lacking a physical and metaphysical non-existence.
