Bobsican
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@GiverOfThePeace Can you please apply the changes/additions?
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I can't see the picture either.Uhh... I already did, can't you see the picture?
Anyways, it notably mentions that... "Kairi never stopped believing in Sora, and the pure light within her---one of the New Seven Hearts---was what kept him from being extinguished."
Using game overs (Which aren't canon to begin with, basic game mechanics) as a justification to keep it limited like this (Kairi needing to be aware) isn't really reliable.
There's also how Sora and Kairi fight together Xehanort and he can still get a game over, which supports it blatantly just a game mechanic (The capability for Sora to "perish" without being able to come back) case on that regard.
Now I can see it.
How about now?
No it wasn't there.Uhh... I already did, can't you see the picture?
Anyways, it notably mentions that... "Kairi never stopped believing in Sora, and the pure light within her---one of the New Seven Hearts---was what kept him from being extinguished."
Using game overs (Which aren't canon to begin with, basic game mechanics) as a justification to keep it limited like this (Kairi needing to be aware) isn't really reliable.
There's also how Sora and Kairi fight together Xehanort and he can still get a game over, which supports it blatantly just a game mechanic (The capability for Sora to "perish" without being able to come back) case on that regard.
Issue is I'm not saying the game over screen in itself is a canon play, I'm saying that him dying during adventure is treated as possible.I mean, if we want to go like that, being able to continue after a game over from the last save point can also be used to support the immortality being at play, Sora does go back to a previous time in the past when Kairi did canonically use it in KHIII, after all.
And one thing is dying, another is resurrecting or having the "full death" being blocked from being the case.
Continuing after a game over is also something Roxas and Riku had when they were playable, so that's not really a good argument. There is also Terra, Ventus and Aqua.I mean, if we want to go like that, being able to continue after a game over from the last save point can also be used to support the immortality being at play, Sora does go back to a previous time in the past when Kairi did canonically use it in KHIII, after all.
And one thing is dying, another is resurrecting or having the "full death" being blocked from being the case.
A nobody perishing is death, it's just that they ress and re-create their whole again. Kari's powers prevented him from losing a form so he could re-build himself while in the final world.I mean, Chirithy says it explicitly, death in KH is when the body and the heart perish together (hence why I specified with "full death", a Nobody perishing doesn't usually translates into actual death, after all, not that it changes the point that much), which is what Kairi's power prevented from being the case.
Anyways, Kairi was aware that he was gone in KHI, but in KHIII we do know that the Demon Tide took Kairi way before Sora, so to say that she was aware of what happened to him (When she even says that all she did was hope that he wasn't gone) supports more that her mere act of believing (And her light as mentioned in the journal) are what protect Sora, the limitation of her "needing" to be aware only happens in KHI out of her being able to see it, so it arguably isn't even a limitation, in fact, for the KHI case, only her light seems to be what brought him back.
Specifically? Is there such an statement confirming that beyond Kairi saying that she won't let him go?Also again, there's direct cutscenes that heavily imply Sora was going to die if he didn't succeed in something and these are specifically when Kairi isn't aware of him.
A statement confirming Kairi isn't aware of him dying? I don't know why we'd need that when she's not in the same area as him and all she knows is he's on a journey to rescue her during the events of KH 2.Specifically? Is there such an statement confirming that beyond Kairi saying that she won't let him go?