Im not saying to make Delete profile votes 0, im say instead of deleting make it Disagree with upgrade or something.
IDK? i just think the entities because muh subjective *
no? the player still has the Low 1-C the only things that were rejected were the 1-C Things
Yes that is what i say the 1-C got denied but the 5-D things still exists and they are dont have to do with dreams
Im pretty sure it's due to real world wich have the relationship between dreams, but i might be wrong, so I recommend to not take my word as a disagree, after I will check
Nop even without that is obvious that the player see minecraft as fiction even the entities say the the player has reached "a higher level of existence" but still lower that the entities
Hey, I just woke up, probably not gonna spend a lot of time on the wiki today so 'pologies if I miss the storm this causes. I am of the opinion that we have enough of a difference in staff votes to delete. 67% tends to be my cutoff for such things. It also has the (current) majority of overall votes, which is somewhat significant as well.
I can compress it a bit, then: I am saying that the Poem being construed as non-literal and a metaphor does not matter because, in the author's eyes, the rest of the story is a metaphor (And he even marks a distinction between "what the story is about" and the events that happen in its narrative), too, and we obviously aren't going to delete all of Minecraft because of that, same with all other perfectly-indexable verses that also intend to convey some message to the audience. Coupled with later quotes having him saying that the Player achieving higher levels of existence is very much literal.
i mean there are only parts that are metaphor were some a pretty clear like the entities being universe or the player being a actual being that is in a "dream" so somethings infact can be used
Make a CRT, Whataboutisms are not an argument
what? i am refering that just because minecraft uses flowery lengajue in the end poem doesnt mean we cant use it specially when some parts are pretty clear and is a comparasion
As much as I am in favour of the upgrade and don't believe this is flowery language, this isn't a proper argument. Those series very well could be due a downgrade.
can people understand my argument? i am saying that minecraft cant be deleated just because a small portion of the game is a poem is was explaining that
Whoa whoa whoa, we aren't for deleting the verse, we are for deleting Entities and True Form player key
i know i was just explaining to a guy who tougth that
He was explaining the anti-deletion position.
Nobody thinks Minecraft should be deleted. You're saying how other series have tons of flowery language. I'm pointing out how that changes nothing. That simple.
Ye i see the point, Now i fully agree with the upgrade.
reasons? and you disagree with the 1-C or the low 1-C?
I disagree for Bambu's reasons
...no? i was explaining a guy for why minecraft wouldnt be deleted it wanst a argument
... can you be more specific? like giving arguments or atleast saying something
Look at this
oh the argument we debunked long time ago and how he bringed out of context that the author sayed it was subjective wich it was.... not really . the author sayed that the dreams were subjective but only that the entities are universe and fiction reality still a thing wich is the entire point of 5-D. and also the most consistent intepretaion of "dreams" is that they are worlds:2-B or a tracending universe:1-B so no
I not really gonna say much more than what I already said, just wanted to point out that Steve isn't getting tier 1, the tier 1 (and currently tier 2) would be a character that actually don't exist in the game and the narrators of the poem, Steve isn't gonna be affected even if is accepted.
wait what.. the entities and the player would still exist as entities but it would be unkown also how they dont exist in the game? they are still character in the verse of minecraft by that logic every tier 0 wouldnt have profile because they exist beyond the plot of the verse also the only part subjective about the poem that really matters is the dream the author only said that the dreams are subjective not the other parts
Steve is the player character, the tier 1 upgrade is for a key he already has.
aka: a anti escapism fantasy wich would put him above 99% ligth novels
Could be a key in the profile of Steve, Steve isn't the Player because the argument is that the Player are us, real world entities that see minecraft and other stories as "dreams", and I'm pretty sure I'm not called Steve, so no, Steve is the thing currently rated as '9-A physically. At least 8-B, possibly Low 7-C with equipment'.
Steve is avatar and a part of the player
