Wanna go over jinwoo revision before i post a thread

[I'm_here_to_teach]

Jinwoo realm of death is a world of nothingness that existing their transcendces dimensions, While woojin consciousness was connected to a higher being jinwoo was able to remake memories these memories connect the past present and future and transcendces time. with chalice statement it reverses time and anyone still effected will disappear which should be time/space manipulation even though it only says it reverses time. it doesn't effect a monarachs conscioness
a monarachs conscioness is a place where all self disappears and dreams can't be dreamed but while connected with suho the son of jinwoo ( who still has the power of death) a monarach can finally dream thus the name "channel of dreams" while allows a monarach to view the real world that being reality as a dream (theirs also statements of it existing outside of time but i dont have anymore passes on kakoupage to grab the scans so ill pick them up tomorrow). I would probably try and go for either 5d or outer but idk if my reasoning is enough
Edit Imgur link dont work

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

This layout is trash ngl. You should also have wrote this in general discussion instead of its own thread.

Your reasoning just needs a batter explanation. Kinda feels scattered

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

This layout is trash ngl. You should also have wrote this in general discussion instead of its own thread.

Your reasoning just needs a batter explanation. Kinda feels scattered

MB I misread it .before I posted it.I though this was a page to go over stuff before I posted i apologize I'm still new on this website

 

[Weaver261]

I would probably try and go for either 5d or outer but idk if my reasoning is enough

Make a discussion thread first or just dm me and explain your points. I can organized them up for you. Currently, your explanation is very vauge. Scans are also MTL.

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

On your profile or do I know you from somewhere?

 

[Weaver261]

On your profile or do I know you from somewhere?

I can start a conversation to you. But if you want more broad discussion, it'd be better to make a discussion thread. But it will take some times to actually make progress with organizing a crt. I mean whatever you like to do. I'm just giving suggestions. Imo, making a discussion would be better. I can also participate in discussion

 

[I'm_here_to_teach]

I can start a conversation to you. But if you want more broad discussion, it'd be better to make a discussion thread. But it will take some times to actually make progress with organizing a crt. I mean whatever you like to do. I'm just giving suggestions. Imo, making a discussion would be better. I can also participate in discussion

I'll make one probably i do have the raws from kakoupage I just can't translate because I don't know korean

 

[Bigitess]

Jinwoo realm of death is a world of nothingness that existing their transcendces dimensions, While woojin consciousness was connected to a higher being jinwoo was able to remake memories these memories connect the past present and future and transcendces time. with chalice statement it reverses time and anyone still effected will disappear which should be time/space manipulation even though it only says it reverses time. it doesn't effect a monarachs conscioness
a monarachs conscioness is a place where all self disappears and dreams can't be dreamed but while connected with suho the son of jinwoo ( who still has the power of death) a monarach can finally dream thus the name "channel of dreams" while allows a monarach to view the real world that being reality as a dream (theirs also statements of it existing outside of time but i dont have anymore passes on kakoupage to grab the scans so ill pick them up tomorrow). I would probably try and go for either 5d or outer but idk if my reasoning is enough

You don't have enough arguments, it's not even an argument, Jin woo is still worth 7b

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

You don't have enough arguments, it's not even an argument, Jin woo is still worth 7b

yap. I might make a 1-A thread soon

 

[Weaver261]

I finally got some time to read through new cosmology expansion in ragnarok. I just read chapter 230 to like over 240. So, my understanding of the cosmology might be a little bit lacking. You can correct me if I was wrong.
From what I can gather so far -
There're multiple universes. There's sea of afterlife in the universe where the main story takes place. Absolute Being from Itarim god race came to this universe and planted the world tree which spans everywhere yet exists nowhere. Absolute being splitted the light into rulers and darkness into monarchs. The universe has multiple dimensions and Earth is also counted as a dimension. World tree connects every dimensions.
Monarchs have their own consciousness spaces where they can go all out with their power and where they are all powerful. Shadow Monarch's consciousness place is the death realm. I still can't figure out whether Sung Jin Woo's death realm is the same thing as sea of afterlife. World tree takes root in sea of afterlife.
Scaling from absolute being who created the cosmo and planted the world tree, Jin Woo should have high 3-A at least. Not to mention he has a domain which is infinite in size.
During chapter 161 of SL, Jin woo died and passive skill "Unknown" activated causing him to live in a dream world inside the death realm. Although there was no qualitive superiortiy shown to be R>F, Sung Jin Woo called out Ashborn who was looking down from above and resetting the world. This need more context to be 1-A which I highly doubt. You can provide more context about this.

 

[HelloThere1089]

Y'all need a general discussion thread. I might make one if nobody objects.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I finally got some time to read through new cosmology expansion in ragnarok. I just read chapter 230 to like over 240. So, my understanding of the cosmology might be a little bit lacking. You can correct me if I was wrong.
From what I can gather so far -
There're multiple universes. There's sea of afterlife in the universe where the main story takes place. Absolute Being from Itarim god race came to this universe and planted the world tree which spans everywhere yet exists nowhere. Absolute being splitted the light into rulers and darkness into monarchs. The universe has multiple dimensions and Earth is also counted as a dimension. World tree connects every dimensions.
Monarchs have their own consciousness spaces where they can go all out with their power and where they are all powerful. Shadow Monarch's consciousness place is the death realm. I still can't figure out whether Sung Jin Woo's death realm is the same thing as sea of afterlife. World tree takes root in sea of afterlife.
Scaling from absolute being who created the cosmo and planted the world tree, Jin Woo should have high 3-A at least. Not to mention he has a domain which is infinite in size.
During chapter 161 of SL, Jin woo died and passive skill "Unknown" activated causing him to live in a dream world inside the death realm. Although there was no qualitive superiortiy shown to be R>F, Sung Jin Woo called out Ashborn who was looking down from above and resetting the world. This need more context to be 1-A which I highly doubt. You can provide more context about this.

I am arguing 1-A BDE 2 via eternal rest. And I can already scale him to 2-A. And sea of death is stated to be in eternal rest. But when I asked astral_trinity about it he said


Eternal rest is rather a state, the state after death when consciousness departs from the physical body and is reduced to nothingness
its not a literal "construct"

I have to reread

 

[Weaver261]

I am arguing 1-A BDE 2 via eternal rest. And I can already scale him to 2-A. And sea of death is stated to be in eternal rest. But when I asked astral_trinity about it he said


Eternal rest is rather a state, the state after death when consciousness departs from the physical body and is reduced to nothingness
its not a literal "construct"

I have to reread

I haven't see any 2-A feats yet. It would be nice if you can provide scans for that here.
Regarding the eternal rest, around the chapter 230-240 it's said that it's like a out of body experience where the soul wander around in sea of afterlife. Those who have physical body can return to life but spiritual beings like monarchs can't. But it's stated clearly by Ashborn himself that Eternal rest is a domain called Death. Considering how Jin Woo can pick out souls from sea of afterlife and turn them into shadow soldiers, it's very likely that sea of afterlife is the same thing as eternal rest which Jin Woo owns.
We also need more scans about Sea of Aftelife being a void without space and time.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I haven't see any 2-A feats yet. It would be nice if you can provide scans for that here.
Regarding the eternal rest, around the chapter 230-240 it's said that it's like a out of body experience where the soul wander around in sea of afterlife. Those who have physical body can return to life but spiritual beings like monarchs can't. But it's stated clearly by Ashborn himself that Eternal rest is a domain called Death. Considering how Jin Woo can pick out souls from sea of afterlife and turn them into shadow soldiers, it's very likely that sea of afterlife is the same thing as eternal rest which Jin Woo owns.
We also need more scans about Sea of Aftelife being a void without space and time.

You have discord? And my 2-A argument comes from eternal rest being infinite in size in the sense that it can hold everything inside it. (So like rimuru WN). My username is Synthisize on discord

 

[Bigitess]

You have discord? And my 2-A argument comes from eternal rest being infinite in size in the sense that it can hold everything inside it. (So like rimuru WN). My username is Synthisize on discord

Nowhere does it say that it is endless, so I'm scaling it to 7B, 7A at most, I've read so much and haven't seen anything to scale it to 2A.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Nowhere does it say that it is endless, so I'm scaling it to 7B, 7A at most, I've read so much and haven't seen anything to scale it to 2A.

7A is outrageous. And if you don’t remember it then go reread (also we are talking about the novels

 

[Digital_Franz]

And my 2-A argument comes from eternal rest being infinite in size in the sense that it can hold everything inside it. (So like rimuru WN).

I always advise not to take WN Rimuru as an example because you are ignoring the reason for his possibly 2-A rating. Being infinite in size or containing everything is not what gives it this rating but the fact that it was briefly stated that the exit of Void God Azathoth (the imaginary space) cannot be filled. And its earlier and even more limited version could contain a space-time continuum in its entirety. Being infinite is just High 3-A without further context.

 

[Digital_Franz]

Y'all need a general discussion thread. I might make one if nobody objects.

Solo Leveling already has one. They just don't want to look for it.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I always advise not to take WN Rimuru as an example because you are ignoring the reason for his possibly 2-A rating. Being infinite in size or containing everything is not what gives it this rating but the fact that it was briefly stated that the exit of Void God Azathoth (the imaginary space) cannot be filled. And its earlier and even more limited version could contain a space-time continuum in its entirety. Being infinite is just High 3-A without further context.

That is why I said “in the sense that it can hold EVERYTHING inside it” just like rimuru.

 

[Bigitess]

7A is outrageous. And if you don’t remember it then go reread (also we are talking about the novels

And even in novels, he falls short of 2A, 6A-5B, nothing more, and stop overestimating him.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

And even in novels, he falls short of 2A, 6A-5B, nothing more, and stop overestimating him.

Wanna bet? I can make a thread and get him to 2C rn Really just showing that you didn’t read anything

 

[Bigitess]

Wanna bet? I can make a thread and get him to 2C rn Really just showing that you didn’t read anything

Create it, I'll lower it on the contrary. If he were the level of the universe, they would do it in profile, but a profile costs 6C, the other would cost 7B, and these are just rumors about the creature.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

Create it, I'll lower it on the contrary. If he were the level of the universe, they would do it in profile, but a profile costs 6C, the other would cost 7B, and these are just rumors about the creature.

I will make it in a week. Just cause of all your yapping

 

[Bigitess]

I will make it in a week. Just cause of all your yapping

I'm saying, on the contrary, I'll lower it)))

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

I'm saying, on the contrary, I'll lower it)))

Yap. My scale will get accepted

 

[HelloThere1089]

Solo Leveling already has one. They just don't want to look for it.

The only one I found was locked tho. Are you sure there is one?

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

The only one I found was locked tho. Are you sure there is one?

I think that was just a sandbox tbh

 

[HelloThere1089]

I think that was just a sandbox tbh

So there is no discussion thread correct? Seeing how this thread is turning out, I think I should make one.

 

[PHANtomFELdway]

So there is no discussion thread correct? Seeing how this thread is turning out, I think I should make one.

I don’t know. Somehow solo leveling has no fans it seems. Profile is still like 7B

 

[Digital_Franz]

The only one I found was locked tho. Are you sure there is one?

Yeah.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/solo-leveling-discussion-thread-1.68745/