Small Name Changes: TTGL

[BluudyManikin777]

Basically, the profile names of two of the characters are wrong

"The Anti-Spiral"?

In his official profile in Final Drill, the translation of アンチスパイラル (Anchisupairaru) is Antispiral. Similar to how its Lordgenome and NOT Lord Genome, it's Antispiral not Anti-Spiral.
However, Anti-Spiral IS an official term, it is used to refer to the entire race, and the kanji for this term is 反螺旋族 (Han Rasen Zoku) or Anti-Spiral Tribe. アンチスパイラル is used when referring to the character himself

Ik that at this point, Anti-Spiral is the way almost everyone in the vs debating community spells it, but ultimately Anti-Spiral and Antispiral are meant to both be different things

Yoko Doesn't Have a Last Name!?

Yeah, she doesn't. In none of the guidebooks or even the official website, is she referred to as Yoko Littner. (Linking a pic of her profile in Basic Drill wouldn't be good support, because Surnames weren't created until Post-Timeskip, to where this guidebook covers Pre-Timeskip. And linking a pic of her profile in Work Soul would also not be good support, because every character is listed with just their first name, even though Work Soul covers Pre-Timeskip and Post-Timeskip of the movie adaptation). Go look at every character profile in the official website, everyone but her (Simon, Lordgenome and Boota) is listed with a last name, and actually the reason is gotten through the light novel

Spoiler: Relevant Text

That's why we created surnames. To create a family register to control the entire nation by using the underground village of origin as a surname.

Yoko doesn't live in Kamina City, therefore isn't under their legislation and therefore wasn't there to give a last name

Conclusions

Yoko Littner's profile to be moved to a new page called "Yoko (Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann)"
The Anti-Spiral's profile to be moved to a new page called "Antispiral"

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I agree to this.

Although where did Littner comes from?

 

[BluudyManikin777]

Although where did Littner comes from?

Her village's name. She was actually referred to as Yoko Littner in the Multiverse Labyrinth, but we all know that's not her main self. Also apparently everyone in the gurren lagann wiki has a last name, which is obviously wrong, so never listen to them

 

[Dalesean027]

Oh wow that actually makes perfect sense I agree I always used the littner too

 

[BluudyManikin777]

Oh wow that actually makes perfect sense I agree I always used the littner too

It's alr, I did too. Her having the same surname as her village's name is perfectly logical without further context

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

Ugh, I'm neutral for this. "Antispiral" and just "Yoko" sound ******* strange to my ears.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

Ugh, I'm neutral for this. "Antispiral" and just "Yoko" sound ******* strange to my ears.

People when Lord Genome:
People when Anti-Spiral:

 

[BluudyManikin777]

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[BluudyManikin777]

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[BluudyManikin777]

Ugh, I'm neutral for this. "Antispiral" and just "Yoko" sound ******* strange to my ears.

Also, I think it would be pretty unprofessional to vote just because of the way it looks or sounds

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

I guess call in one staff and that's enough

 

[Mariogoods]

I agree with the Yoko stuff and partly disagree with the AS stuff. I think AS stuff is better noted in his summary.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

partly disagree with the AS stuff. I think AS stuff is better noted in his summary.

Antispiral's summary is so bad tbh, he's never referred to as Anti-Spiral King or Leader (he's literally the entire race at this point). And if his goal was to exterminate Spiral Beings, which it isn't, he would've done it a long time ago. That's irrelevant, anyways it would be better if we were consistent with names. I keep bringing him up here, but if Lordgenome is a name, in which apart of his name (Lord) irl would be weird if it was apart of the name, the same should be and canonically is the same for Antispiral. If it's Anti-Spiral, then its Lord Genome, and vice versa, there's no in-between. I mean, you can't just disagree with the guidebook, it literally just says "Antispiral"

 

[Mariogoods]

Antispiral's summary is so bad tbh, he's never referred to as Anti-Spiral King or Leader (he's literally the entire race at this point). And if his goal was to exterminate Spiral Beings, which it isn't, he would've done it a long time ago. That's irrelevant, anyways it would be better if we were consistent with names. I keep bringing him up here, but if Lordgenome is a name, in which apart of his name (Lord) irl would be weird if it was apart of the name, the same should be and canonically is the same for Antispiral. If it's Anti-Spiral, then its Lord Genome, and vice versa, there's no in-between. I mean, you can't just disagree with the guidebook, it literally just says "Antispiral"

If the guidebook says so, I agree with this too. I feel that "Lord Genome" is better because the name "Antispiral" would trigger people's desire to change it to "Anti-Spiral". I think his profile could be written like this:

Lord Genome, also known as Antisprial and better known as Anti-Spiral among fan base, is[...]

 

[BluudyManikin777]

the name "Antispiral" would trigger people's desire to change it to "Anti-Spiral"

F*ck the people, they can't change the profile anyway cuz it'll be locked

 

[BluudyManikin777]

I think his profile could be written like this:

That would be incorrect use of terms regardless of what the people know him as. Anti-Spiral is already a separate term which is used for the entire race

 

[Mariogoods]

That would be incorrect use of terms regardless of what the people know him as. Anti-Spiral is already a separate term which is used for the entire race

I know and that description is a compromise.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

I know and that description is a compromise.

Antispiral and Anti-Spiral really should not be mixed up together, compromise or not, the writers intend for these things to be different, to which people should not be misusing the terms

 

[BluudyManikin777]

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[GreatIskandar14045]

This may be pain in the ass but what is needed right now I think, is them who are good in japanese

 

[BluudyManikin777]

This may be pain in the ass but what is needed right now I think, is them who are good in japanese

for what?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

This is fine

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

for what?

To evaluate this, your CRT speaks about language, which is japanese, not exactly something contextual related.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

To evaluate this, your CRT speaks about language, which is japanese, not exactly something contextual related.

There's english translations on the names in final drill. It's "Antispiral" and "Yoko". There's Dayakka Littner, Leeron Littner, Tetsukan Littner, etc. There is no Yoko Littner

 

[GreatIskandar14045]

There's english translations on the names in final drill. It's "Antispiral" and "Yoko". There's Dayakka Littner, Leeron Littner, Tetsukan Littner, etc. There is no Yoko Littner

If what you meant is them names in kanji being translated to english, then that's what I'm talking about. Also, "Yoko Littner" was mentioned in the 2nd movie, in that extradimensional labyrinth scene.

Edit: and in episode 26, when she caught that frog-guy.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

If what you meant is them names in kanji being translated to english, then that's what I'm talking about. Also, "Yoko Littner" was mentioned in the 2nd movie, in that extradimensional labyrinth scene.

Edit: and in episode 26, when she caught that frog-guy.

If we were to use what we've learned from the novelization, the conclusion that we can come to is that in the reality she was in, she lived in Kamina City, so it was kind of a given that she would be required to be given a last name. In Final Drill, everyone who came from Littner is listed with a last name, except Yoko

 

[BluudyManikin777]

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[Bobsican]

"Yoko" is a fairly common Japanese name, so for this case the verse should also be specified, like "Yoko (TTGL)" or so.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

"Yoko" is a fairly common Japanese name, so for this case the verse should also be specified, like "Yoko (TTGL)" or so.

That’s true. So maybe something like that (except with the full name ofc)

 

[BluudyManikin777]

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[BluudyManikin777]

bump (I really want this ****** crt over with already, there's literally nothing else to talk about)

 

[Antvasima]

This can probably be applied.

@Elizhaa @CrimsonStarFallen

Is it fine to do so now?

 

[Elizhaa]

It seems fine.

 

[BluudyManikin777]

I'm back, so ye. I'll apply changes when I get back on cuz goodnight

 

[N_Kardashev]

doesnt the credits also desplay it as "yoko littner" or nah
n i c the japanese wiki has it as ヨーコ・リットナー

come to think ab it, simon also not listed w/ a surname on that site like yoko