Since this is possible now, Naruto takes on Goku

[Kepekley23]

Goku: "You control all the ki in your body…momentarily amplifying it. If you get it right, your power, speed, destructive force, and defensive force all become many times greater…"

 

[Rocker1189]

Goku: "You control all the ki in your body…momentarily amplifying it. If you get it right, your power, speed, destructive force, and defensive force all become many times greater…"

Huh Nice.

 

[Frantzy12]

Goku isn't an average Ninja.

The clones will always be weaker then he is though..meaning lesser chakra.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Goku isn't an average Ninja.
The clones will always be weaker then he is though..meaning lesser chakra.

No, teh clones have the same physical strenght. Dude, there are sensors in the naruto world. Sasuke is in the naruto world. They couldn't tell apart the clones

 

[Rocker1189]

Goku isn't an average Ninja.
The clones will always be weaker then he is though..meaning lesser chakra.

My point is what Goku can do to sense ki is nothing specia;.

They are not how manhy times does this have to be said the clones are literally the exact same as the real person.

Also less chakra does not mean weaker. Kakashi had less chakra than kid Naruto(not counting Kurama) and would have punked him in strength.

 

[BMWFanboy]

Six Paths clones aren't weaker than him tho, they have consistently been relative to him.....

 

[BMWFanboy]

Goku: "You control all the ki in your body…momentarily amplifying it. If you get it right, your power, speed, destructive force, and defensive force all become many times greater…"

@Kep anyway, is the speed equalisation applicable to Kaioken? Because if not this is a stomp, can be closed

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

@Kep anyway, is the speed equalisation applicable to Kaioken? Because if not this is a stomp, can be closed

Do you are ignoring that goku has an only 4 times speed advantage and that he needs to take out 2000 clones?

 

[BMWFanboy]

Um, a 4x speed advantage and 4x AP advantage along with a range that he has is more than enough to wipe out the clones

 

[Rocker1189]

Its not a stomp even with that I still give it to Naruto via versatillity.

 

[Rocker1189]

Um, a 4x speed advantage and 4x AP advantage along with a range that he has is more than enough to wipe out the clones

The clones make up for the speed advantage and can all using Body flicker. And he can still overwhelm him with numbers.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Um, a 4x speed advantage and 4x AP advantage along with a range that he has is more than enough to wipe out the clones

No.

That amount of speed isn't even close to enough, the clones could take suckepounches from sasuke, goku only uses this when desperate, and when he uses it he self incapacitates in one blast

 

[BMWFanboy]

Base Goku being > 14% SoL makes Kkx4 56% SoL. That's a 12% SoL advantage over Naruto. Not to mention a huge AP and Dura advantage and then a range advantage.

 

[Frantzy12]

Naruto will still have the largest amount of energy there out of the clones.

Ki sensing is the ability to sense the location, life force, and power levels of anyone the stronger and closer the enemy, the more powerful the sensation. Also, if a ki is very powerful, it can be sensed from afar by people who are trained to sense energy.

 

[Rocker1189]

Base Goku being > 14% SoL makes Kkx4 56% SoL. That's a 12% SoL advantage over Naruto. Not to mention a huge AP and Dura advantage and then a range advantage.

It only lasts for like a minute dude... and that speed advantage is nothing. Are you telling me you can never touch someone that is 12% faster than you...

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Base Goku being > 14% SoL makes Kkx4 56% SoL. That's a 12% SoL advantage over Naruto. Not to mention a huge AP and Dura advantage and then a range advantage.

you also forgot to mentioned that he could only keep it active for one blast, and was directly ordered to not use it

 

[BMWFanboy]

If Goku in base is 280 Zt in both AP and Durability, that means he's almost thrice as strong as Naruto's damage output while still being faster.

 

[AstralKing7]

shadow clones all with SOSP sensing and emotion detection. Lets wrap this up tbh guys cause its boring. Naruto has hax and is more versatile along with enhanced senses that is better than goku's by literally a lot. Hell dimensions apart if you get the joke.

 

[Rocker1189]

Naruto will still have the largest amount of energy there out of the clones.
Ki sensing is the ability to sense the location, life force, and power levels of anyone the stronger and closer the enemy, the more powerful the sensation. Also, if a ki is very powerful, it can be sensed from afar by people who are trained to sense energy.

Chakra is not ki and the chakra is divided evenly I am wondering if you are actually botherin gto read what I am writing.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If Goku in base is 280 Zt in both AP and Durability, that means he's almost thrice as strong as Naruto's damage output while still being faster.

And he can only hit once, cannot oneshot with that amount of power, and naruto can regenerate

 

[BMWFanboy]

Um, only if you assume every clone lands a hit on Goku can he actually be beaten

 

[BMWFanboy]

And he can only hit once, cannot oneshot with that amount of power, and naruto can regenerate

Naruto cannot regenerate from nothing, and given his planetary range, he could easily hit the real one

 

[Rocker1189]

Um, only if you assume every clone lands a hit on Goku can he actually be beate

Dude it only lasts a minute it is fine leave it.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Naruto cannot regenerate from nothing, and given his planetary range, he could easily hit the real one

Aoe=/=Range

One is lenght, the other is area of effect.

And no, he cannot oneshot, he needs at least X5 Ap advantage

 

[BMWFanboy]

Naruto will still have the largest amount of energy there out of the clones.

Ki sensing is the ability to sense the location, life force, and power levels of anyone the stronger and closer the enemy, the more powerful the sensation. Also, if a ki is very powerful, it can be sensed from afar by people who are trained to sense energy.

No. Chakra is divided evenly. If Naruto makes a clone, his clone will have the same chakra as he does. This is basic stuff. So they're all relative to each other and they're also relative in chakra quantity.

 

[Frantzy12]

He will literally run his fist through Naruto's skull.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

He will literally run his fist through Naruto's skull.

He doesn't have enough AP to oneshot dude. For ***** sake, there are only so many times I can repeat something

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And naruto sobstitutes

 

[BMWFanboy]

Anyway, which level are we using? 350 Zt Goku or 1000+ Zt Goku? Both are from Kep. And the 350 one isn't running his fist through anyone's skull.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

350

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

with a X4 amp, which is still not X5 stronger than naruto

 

[BMWFanboy]

350? If so he doesn't run his fist in anyone's skull. Base Hokage Naruto intercepts attacks from someone who scales to 400 while weakened and overpowers him with one blow in Six Paths Mode.

 

[BMWFanboy]

Let Kep answer since both are his suggestions

 

[Frantzy12]

Repeating it doesn't make you correct.He still holds the advantage by several magnitudes.

 

[BMWFanboy]

350 was with x5 amp

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Repeating it doesn't make you correct.He still holds the advantage by several magnitudes.

Exept I gave reasoning. Reasoning that you didn't debunk.

The minimum to oneshot is a X5 advantage

Goku only has a 3.5 advantage, lacks the aoe to hit all narutos and cannot find the real one before being incapacitated

 

[Frantzy12]

lol.

 

[BMWFanboy]

350 Goku doesn't have a 3.5 advantage, he has a 0.875 disadvantage to what Naruto intercepted in base

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

350 Goku doesn't have a 3.5 advantage, he has a 0.875 disadvantage to what Naruto intercepted in base

X4 increase with kaioken that nearly kills him

 

[BMWFanboy]

Didn't he use KkX5 to match Vegeta's Galick Gun?