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I'm actually not sure about Crystal manip being merged tbh, I feel manipulating soil is usually not treated the same way as being able to produce or control crystals
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Well, I agree with merging rage power and awakened power with statistics amplification, and sense manipulation with perception manipulation, but am very uncertain about merging madness manipulation and morality manipulation with mind manipulation, and think that crystal manipulation and sand manipulation can probably remain as they are, as they are rather common and much more limited powers than earth manipulation.Pages requiring merging have shown no opposition to the merger
- Agreements: @LordGriffin1000, @Promestein (honorable mention), @DarkDragonMedeus (with awakened power, sense manipulation, sand manipulation)
- Disagreements: @Armorchompy (with madness manipulation), @Andytrenom, @DarkDragonMedeus (same stance as Armor and Andy)
- Neutral:
Promestein has a vote when she wants to help out. It seems silly to not include it.Thanks for your evaluations, I will be adding your votes. (If I like the message, it means I am adding their votes, to avoid me thanking every time ;3)
@Promestein is an honorable mention, so I will be adding it, if none of you has any issues with it.
Although, noting that her vote will be same valued as any other non-staff member, ensuring the fairness.
That is a good point. I also disagree about merging that page then.Morality Manipulation often has more in common with spiritual manipulation than it does mind manipulation or manipulation of the heart/empathy than it does the mind. But unless Empathy Manipulation is also something we want to treat as something the same as Mind Manipulation, then I'd advocate for keeping it separated from mind manipulation. I also agree with Armor regarding Madness Manipulation; plenty of users can invoke Madness manipulation via use of drugs or plagues/viruses and is not limited to Telepathy/Psychokinesis powers. It has more in common with status inducement rather than mind manipulation.
Promestein has a vote when she wants to help out. It seems silly to not include it.
I will take it as "same stance as DDM", then.That is a good point. I also disagree about merging that page then.
Maybe "Energy Emission" could work too.Aura: Has been severely misused by being confused with Chi Manipulation, should at least get renamed to something like "Surrounding Energy" given the intent going by the summary, and the image should be changed as it's misleading.
Then we can put it under EE if it is another form, no?It’s not mundane terrorism, Chaos is the opposite of Order, it’s the antithesis to Law hax as with several verses that has it as an ability, Castlevania being the most noteworthy example as creatures of chaos literally use chaos itself. If it was just another form of existence erasure then explain why chaos in Castlevania is used in ways not related to EE at all, and instead causes disorder across the lands?
However, your tally should be updated here to list the specific staff sentiments for each individual page, one at a time, as it currently does not accurately reflect the opinions of myself or others.Pages requiring merging have shown no opposition to the merger
- Agreements: @LordGriffin1000, @Promestein (honorable mention), @DarkDragonMedeus (with awakened power, sense manipulation, sand manipulation), @Antvasima (same as DDM)
- Disagreements: @Armorchompy (with madness manipulation), @Andytrenom, @DarkDragonMedeus (same stance as Armor and Andy), @Antvasima (same as DDM)
- Neutral:
You said you are in the same stance as DDM. So I added it like that to avoid the vote tally being spammy.However, your tally should be updated here to list the specific staff sentiments for each individual page, one at a time, as it currently does not accurately reflect the opinions of myself or others.
Well, I agree with merging rage power and awakened power with statistics amplification, and sense manipulation with perception manipulation, but am very uncertain about merging madness manipulation and morality manipulation with mind manipulation, and think that crystal manipulation and sand manipulation can probably remain as they are, as they are rather common and much more limited powers than earth manipulation.
No, I only said that I agreed with him about not merging our morality manipulation page into our mind manipulation page.That is a good point. I also disagree about merging that page then.
It is just a simple form of air manipulation or even body control in some cases so it would be fine for removal.but am uncertain about breath attack.
Yes, but it is likely very difficult to go through all of the pages that list it as an ability to figure out which ability that it should be replaced with in each individual case.It is just a simple form of air manipulation or even body control in some cases so it would be fine for removal.
No, people misusing isn't a ground for an ability deletion or alteration, that entirely people's fault, not the power, also the reason for confusion of this ability is because verse with Chi Manipulation often go along with AuraAura: Has been severely misused by being confused with Chi Manipulation, should at least get renamed to something like "Surrounding Energy" given the intent going by the summary, and the image should be changed as it's misleading.
no Chaos is opposite of Law/Order hax, similar to Holy and Unholy hax. I disagree with thisThen we can put it under EE if it is another form, no?
depend on context, which we can flexibly fix, such as if breath attack is breath an energy blast, we can replace with Energy Projection/Energy Manip and write detail description about it, Fire Breath?? the it is Fire Manipluation then, etc..........It is just a simple form of air manipulation or even body control in some cases so it would be fine for removal.
The difference is that those abilities address very specific aspects of RW, Breath attack is very limited and isn’t even an overlapping ability, its just a different way to use another ability.Also, we are foremostly an indexing site, i don't see the reason to go with this ability deletion too hard like this, sure we merge and delete overlaping abilities, but if we just go too hard with this, then just delete reality warping-type abilities such as fate hax, causality hax, EE, law hax, etc............, leaving only Reality Warping intact
I did not add regarding “removal pages”, since I want to start with merging first. I updated the stance now.I also disagree with removing aura, chaos manipulation, ectoplasm manipulation, and blessed, but am uncertain about breath attack.
Please carefully list all of the views by other staff members case-by-case as well. Thank you.
I'm not proposing it for deletion, please read the whole post before jumping to conclusions:No, people misusing isn't a ground for an ability deletion or alteration, that entirely people's fault, not the power, also the reason for confusion of this ability is because verse with Chi Manipulation often go along with Aura
Stuff I think should be reworked or deleted:
I'm aware we're unlikely to be deleting rather overly linked pages right now, but I've bolded the ones that don't necessarily involve deleting pages to ease progress for now.