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Sorry for the late response, but I disagree. Rage Power is a significant-enough power to be indexed separately, many verses treat it as such.This was a proposal I made the last time, tackling the least controversial issues one at a time.
Seems to have been agreed by Ant and Bob and the others haven't showed any opposition to merging, up till now.
Bump.Okay.
Which staff members have helped out in this thread previously?
@AntvasimaOkay.
Which staff members have helped out in this thread previously?
After reviewing the entire thread, it appears that there are no outstanding tasks or actions required. All the accepted proposals have been successfully incorporated, and the remaining suggested abilities for merging have been dismissed. In light of this, I believe it's appropriate to conclude and close the thread.
Did you handle all of this already?
I agree about merging rage power and awakened power into statistics amplification, time stop with time manipulation, and sense manipulation with perception manipulation.
According to awakened power description;
It seems they don't match with statistics amplification, as they are uncontrollable.
Well, it is still a form of statistics amplification, so wouldn't it be better to just create a new Rage Power section in the Statistics Amplification page?
I am aware of how to do this, but we are now establishing that statistics amplification can be used unconsciously. This sounds to me a new standard, don't we require more opinions on this?
Okay.
Which staff members have helped out in this thread previously?
@Tllmbrg @Damage3245 @Armorchompy @DemiiPowa @Sir_Ovens @Andytrenom @Deagonx @Mr._Bambu @KLOL506 @DarkDragonMedeus @Flashlight237 @Maverick_Zero_X @Zaratthustra @Theglassman12 @Therefir @Crabwhale @Just_a_Random_Butler @Abstractions @LephyrTheRevanchist @LordGriffin1000 @Dereck03Sorry for the late response, but I disagree. Rage Power is a significant-enough power to be indexed separately, many verses treat it as such.
Best case scenario is to make an Empathetic Empowerment page or just leave it as it is.
just want to give some opinion, i think we should keep awakened power as it own page, since i fairly certain that there are case where awakened powers give new abilities, resistances, not just simply increasing in statsI agree about merging rage power and awakened power into statistics amplification
@Antvasima Rage Power and Awakened Power are still being discussed, but can I merge the other two now?I agree about merging rage power and awakened power into statistics amplification, time stop with time manipulation, and sense manipulation with perception manipulation.
Isn't time stop already get merged??@Antvasima Rage Power and Awakened Power are still being discussed, but can I merge the other two now?
Actually, someone already redirected and merged Berserk Mode, Rage Power and Awakened Power into Statistics Amplification. When i click into Awakened Power link it went to Stats Amp page.However, it is probably best if you or somebody else writes drafts in wiki sandbox pages for what the merged together pages should look like.
The Time Stop and Perception Manipulation things were already done- as for Rage Power I disagree, it's Empowerment if anything.Yes. I think that Awakened Power can probably remain then, but Rage Power should probably be redirected to Statistics Amplification, Time Stop to Time Manipulation, and Sense Manipulation to Perception Manipulation.
However, it is probably best if you or somebody else writes drafts in wiki sandbox pages for what the merged together pages should look like.
I am very uncertain about if we should create a redirect links from our Rage Power page to our Empowerment page instead of to Statistics Amplification, and think that the second option likely works better. My apologies.The Time Stop and Perception Manipulation things were already done- as for Rage Power I disagree, it's Empowerment if anything.
But empowerment is apparently more about the nature of a power source than about specifically becoming more powerful.Well, @Armorchompy do have a point, since we can consider Rage Power as kind of emotional empowerment, boost stats via rage, anger
i mean, depend on how we view the power itself, you can consider rage as some form of emotional empowerment which boost statistics, from what i see it, it is a weird small mix of empowerment and stats boost, sometime, we have multiple abilities that overlapping each others. I'm fine either wayBut empowerment is apparently more about the nature of a power source than about specifically becoming more powerful.
yeah, we should revise the description of Awakened Power, but i can't think of any proper description for it right now, we should call help, unfortunatelyIt should be mentioned withinoure Awakened Power page that it is not merely about a specific type of statistics amplification. Otherwise I will have to turn it into a redirect page again.
Well you're just wrong, frankly. Rage Power is an increase in statistics caused by an uncontrollable shift in emotions- AKA by an involuntary circumstance inherent to them that is not under their full control- the very definition of Empowerment. Statistics Amplification is for abilities that can be freely and directly activated, which Rage Power is not unless a character is capable of controlling their emotions at will (which most people cannot)I am very uncertain about if we should create a redirect links from our Rage Power page to our Empowerment page instead of to Statistics Amplification, and think that the second option likely works better. My apologies.
Well, your issue with Empowerment then, not Rage Power. I disagree with Empowerment being fused with Statistics Amplification, for the record.Well, I think that it is better to just slightly modify the wording in our statistics manipulation page than to have several redundant ability pages that are just activated differently but otherwise mean much the same thing.
Which ones?Yeah, I'd rather keep them separate.
You cannot really just keep saying this in a debate- it's impossible for us to explain why we think you're wrong if you don't elaborate as to why you think that.Well, I personally think that rage power is a somewhat more limited type of statistics amplification.