Shirou Emiya vs Ichigo Kurosaki

[Dat_Dot]

Heracles, he defeat him with a single getsuga lol

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Actually, wouldn't Blut Vene protect Ichigo from attempted fatal attacks?

 

[Gemmysaur]

It would stop most, but how long would it last against an onslaught of a nigh-inexhaustible amount of blades. One or two would be bound to hurt him.

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Well, it's Country level so I imagine it would stop all for however long it lasts.

 

[Gemmysaur]

Gae Bolg though. Archer did project it in the UBW route against Caster (according to what I read before), if that helps.

 

[Schnee_One]

And in Extella

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

I know about Gae Bolg, but can Shirou actually use the cause and effect reversing thing? If so, yeah it'd bypass Blut Vene.

 

[Gemmysaur]

He should be able to. I mean, it's described as mana efficient for a noble phantasm (the heartstab, not the nuke) so Shirou should be able to support it. It will be degraded though, so how it will be degraded is debatable. Methinks, it'll have a lower luck check than the original, or the aim would be off a bit (maybe the lungs) but that's just me.

EDIT:

What would happen though if Shirou stabs Ichigo with Rule Breaker?

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Dunno about all those stuff. Well, Rule Breaker does seem haxxed.

 

[Meosos]

From what I read above, I think I am going to vote for Shirou.

 

[LordGinSama]

Ichigo: 3

Shirou: 4

 

[ScarletMoon1111]

Ichigo for reasons above

 

[LordGinSama]

Ichigo: 4


Shirou: 4

 

[Gemmysaur]

This is the closest match I've seen in a while.

 

[LordGinSama]

I know. I actually love matches when it's 50/50 instead of being one sided.

 

[Schnee_One]

Shirou for Gemmy's reasons

 

[LordGinSama]

Ichigo: 4

Shirou: 5

 

[Newendigo]

Ichigo for reasons above.

 

[LordGinSama]

Ichigo: 5

Shirou: 5

 

[LordGinSama]

Bump

 

[Aizenishere]

My votes going to Ichigo, For Dat Dots and phantasys reasons

 

[LordGinSama]

Ichigo: 6


Shirou: 5

 

[Damned_Salvation]

First of all, NotEvenHuman didn't give a vote for Ichigo so you should remove it.

And second, literally the only arguments made here for Ichigo are

"lol Getsuga spam from afar"

Which is not only completely out of character for Ichigo, but also pretty ******* useless on a speed equalize matchup when the receiver of the attack has to dodge for quite a shorter distance compared to the distance the attack is travelling. Not mentioning here that he can block them with Rho Aias. But let's completely ignore those because why the hell not.

"By his own admission, Shirou states that even his perfected Unlimited Blade Works would not have allowed him to defeat a true master of one weapon as he is merely a creator and not an accomplished master."

Which is a completely illogical argument to begin with. By that very same logic, Shirou would lose to every single character not named Archer. I'm not even counting here the fact that Ichigo is not an acomplished sword master at all, he's knowledgeable and a brawler at best.

The cue the "for reasons above" votes without even knowing reading the thread at all.

 

[LordGinSama]

Ichigo: 5


Shirou: 5


Also @Dammned please chill out with the hostility. I'd rather not have this thread turn into conflict.

 

[Gemmysaur]

DSalv's words make sense though, but that's just my opinion.

The best argument I saw for Ichigo is Blut Vene.

 

[Dat_Dot]

But the hostility though, you can criticize a flaws in ones argument with more calmer tone.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

I'm trying to fight against this but these kinds of low effort arguments make it really hard. You can't treat the symptoms without treating the underlying disease it seems.

I'm going with Shirou. Ichigo is a one trick pony that has no defensive options except the Vene which won't hold out long enough to save him from the barrage of weapons. His versatility is lacking as well while Shirou's is quite higher. It's kind of funny people are only discussing Shirou's possibility of copying Ichigo's sword, when he doesn't really need to.

 

[ScarletFirefly]

But the hostility though, you can criticize a flaws in ones argument with more calmer tone.

I mean you could, but there's hardly any argument to be critised here. It's just mentioning of abilities without even acknowledging their interactions with the other character.

 

[LordGinSama]

Back on topic.


Ichigo: 5


Shirou: 6

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Ichigo has a shit-ton versions and im not sure what version is 7-A

so for now i'll just go by gemmy's reasoning and go with ichigo

 

[LordGinSama]

Gemmy didn't vote for Ichigo

 

[Damned_Salvation]

Ichigo has a shit-ton versions and im not sure what version is 7-A
so for now i'll just go by gemmy's reasoning and go with ichigo

See what I mean?

 

[Dat_Dot]

Well I'm so lucky added blut vene in my original reasons

But a honest question, can Ichigo destroy UBW like he did to yukio's pocket dimension? just asking.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Gemmy didn't vote for Ichigo

Oh LOL epic fail xD then i'll just simply say "for reasons above" with no specifications

i wanna use my own reasoning but first,what ichigo version is this?

 

[Dat_Dot]

i wanna use my own reasoning but first,what ichigo version is this?

I believe its fullbringer bankai

 

[TISSG7Redgrave]

well i think i'll give it to shirou since he can trace gae bolg and this will bypass blut vene assulting the wound repeatedly plus his trace on may copy ichigo's zanpukto (though inferior i think) plus UBW is GoB in a sense so the barrage of weapons won't help ichigo here

 

[LordGinSama]

The whole Gae Bolg argument is mook imo. IIRC Shirou can't activate it.


Ichigo: 6


Shirou: 6

 

[ScarletFirefly]

No idea about Ichigo destroying pcket dimenions, so can't help you there.

Shirou can also bypass the Vene by projecting Gae Dearg so there's that.

 

[Gemmysaur]

How did it go? Can you link us that? I stopped keeping up with Bleach after Ichigo vs Byakuya 1.

 

[Dat_Dot]

another 50/50, man this remind me of a certain presidential election XD