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Senran Kagura gets upgraded for real!

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Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
What is up with this calc then? I know the feat happened in the game too, but this feels hypocritical to say "Don't use non-game references." when one of the calcs uses a non-game reference
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You can use secondary canon/things and stuff as long as the feat is the same between both versions. And the feat is impossible to calc in the main canon.

It's the same reason we're allowed to use the anime for certain manga series. Since the feat is impossible to calc in the actual game, the manga should be alright to use.
 
Do the game's openings count as secondary canon too?

Also, I found the thread where I first saw the reference to the castle I was thinking of, but the image is unavailable on there currently. Do you think you could also try getting the Senran Kagura: Skirting Shadows manga?
 
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TheRustyOne said:
Since you are not providing any new information, so I have no reason to buy anything you said there.
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Provided the possible muzzle velocity of guns the characters would be using, I understand the vagueness of the statement so to supplant that I am giving a range of speeds for what Homura might be talking about

Also, I think I'd like to get screenshots of the models for Yomi and Haruka, if that's possible
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Do the game's opening count as secondary canon too?

Also, I found the thread where I first saw the reference to the castle I was thinking of, but the image is unavailable on there currently. Do you think you could also try getting the Senran Kagura: Skirting Shadows manga?
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The game opening is completely fine to use. That's where we get the Hebijo destruction right? Since it can't be calc via text boxes, and the opening is apart of the game. Along with multiple animation of them destroying Hebijo, seems consistent.

I'll try looking for it. But tomorrow, right now it's very late where I'm from.
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Provided the possible muzzle velocity of guns the characters would be using, I understand the vagueness of the statement so to supplant that I am giving a range of speeds for what Homura might be talking about
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You are aware in such a case the lowest end will be used. Like I said there is no logic and using anything else, and the statement doesn't prove that the ping pong ball was moving at bullet speed. Also Supersonic at best, no other value should be guess or higher.

And since they hit the ball to move at that speed in the first place, obviously it'd scale to the combat speed of the person who hit that fast.
 
Gohan?_You're_still_alive? said:
Regeneration; Fair, Ryouna's the only one that did this, could probably be her mind, but she /did/ transform into a Tempura dish in her Heart mission, likely just shapeshifting or something, I'd send an image but it's pretty ecchi-
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Maybe I'll have her able to regen in my novel adaptation of the games since she's not going to be keen on getting barbecued alive and dying
 
So have you reached any conclusions here?
 
Awake. We already have a basic structure for the keys. Right now we're just waiting on some calculations and feats. That's all, since we can't exactly split the profiles into keys and have them all be the exact same stats. So we're trying to find something to scale them to still.

That part will take longer than I originally thought, unfortunately.
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
I found this calc here, what do you guys think of it:

vsbattles.fandom.com

Senran Kagura - Kagura flips the world upside down Redux

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Damn, Ugarik was the one who evaluated it as well. Obviously I wouldn't believe it if she just had the screen flipping feat, but it actually being stated that she can flip the world kind of seals the deal here. Since obviously her flip in the battle is what they're referring to.

Now the problem is this being an outlier since this 100% scales to Ultimate Asuka and Crimson Homura since she is using it during their fight. Which is obviously an outlier if I ever saw one, there are no such feats on this level and though even with just Kagura I see the feat as being way beyond anything else.

Is there any other feats to support such ratings?
 
TheRustyOne said:
Awake. We already have a basic structure for the keys. Right now we're just waiting on some calculations and feats. That's all, since we can't exactly split the profiles into keys and have them all be the exact same stats. So we're trying to find something to scale them to still.

That part will take longer than I originally thought, unfortunately.
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Okay. Noted. Do you still need my help here, or should I unfollow this thread, after which you can ask me to return after you have reached a conclusion here?
 
Antvasima said:
Okay. Noted. Do you still need my help here, or should I unfollow this thread, after which you can ask me to return after you have reached a conclusion here?
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Might be best to unfollow this thread since I feel like there will be a lot of gaps here. Wouldn't want to take up your time here when we aren't about to finish.

Since we all have to go through some stuff, and I need check up on some things in Deep Crimson and Estival Versus.
 
Alright! Found the manga events and they have a nice shot of the castle, and it is indeed on a stone foundation. However it also shows the foundation afterwards, and the castle is gone from their attack but the foundation is still in one piece.

Here we see the building is on top of a massive stone foundation. Here is another close shot of the building, though covered by text boxes.

Asuka and Homura about clash above the castle. The castle starting to be destroyed. (Foundation shrunk for some reason, I assume this is just stylized since that is the only time it looks that small)

Where the castle use to be, see that the stone foundation is still intact.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Might be best to unfollow this thread since I feel like there will be a lot of gaps here. Wouldn't want to take up your time here when we aren't about to finish.
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Okay. You can contact me later then.
 
Jamesthetaker said:
As for fliping the world thing, are we sure that wouldn't count as spatial/gravity manipulation instead of raw strength.
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Can't be gravity manipulation since Asuka and Homura didn't fall down when the world was flipped, they were still attached to the ceiling/floor. She didn't changed the direction of gravity, as the text stated she just flipped the world.

Spatial manipulation came out of nowhere. Also apparently there are Tier 3 feats in one of the games or something

Regardless it's without a doubt an outlier. Even if it'd just scale to Kagura it's too high, god tiers are not immune to outliers.
 
I will not link illegal website for obvious reasons.

Manga park dot net is where I found them.
 
Might it be possible for us to get volume 3 of Guren no Hebi? I so far have had no luck finding any site that goes past chapter 15
 
I have no idea what you're talking about. What does that even mean? Like I can't help you unless you give me more, what is your issue? Took me like a minute to find it.

I want to help but I don't know how.

Also normal member cannot ping people. It isn't against the rules it just doesn't work when a normal user does it.

Only staff can actually ping people.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
I have no idea what you're talking about. What does that even mean? Like I can't help you unless you give me more, what is your issue? Took me like a minute to find it.
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There are 22 total chapters to Guren no Hebi, but I can only find the first 15 fully translated so far, I'm trying to look for the 7 remaining chapters whether they are in Japanese or English
 
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Just check the place where I get my MHA raws.

I have the raws for volume 3, however I couldn't get the raws for volume 1-2 as well since those links are all dead.

What are you looking for specifically?
 
If you're talking about the raws for Guren no Hebi volume 3, then I'd like possibly a compiled imgur post of all the raw chapters from that volume pls
 
Yes it's the raws for Guren no Hebi.

I don't know if I can do that in Imgur.

Can you download a rar file from Google Drive or File.io? Or are you on mobile?

Edit: Any link I share will not last long, please be aware that I can spare like an hour at most.
 
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TheRustyOne said:
Can't be gravity manipulation since Asuka and Homura didn't fall down when the world was flipped, they were still attached to the ceiling/floor. She didn't changed the direction of gravity, as the text stated she just flipped the world.

Spatial manipulation came out of nowhere. Also apparently there are Tier 3 feats in one of the games or something

Regardless it's without a doubt an outlier. Even if it'd just scale to Kagura it's too high, god tiers are not immune to outliers.
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Flipping the world is more than likely an outlier.

And yeah, tier 3 feats, in the WATER GUN GAME--

Most of it being for Ryouki piloting the Heaven's Casket and the beach stretching out to infinity.

Also, Ryoubi, Ryouna, and Ryouki were first introduced in Timeline 2, so the key structure would look different for them.
 
TheRustyOne said:
If they get keys at all, since I don't know if there is an escalation of power there.
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Ryoubi and Ryouna would likely remain the same.

I don't know if Happy Turn Ryouki fought Ultimate Asuka or Crimson Homura throughout the story-

But Ryouki would probably have three keys: Base and Happy Turn.

Three because I'd say High 3-A with Heaven's Casket but I can't determine if the energy released from it into the sky was just Environmental Creation or something else--
 
Ryoki's Happy Turn will no longer be a key.

Instead it'd like how Ultimate Asuka and Crimson Homura are going to be. She'll be either higher or have another rating with Happy Turn, but not a separate key.

I guess I really need to look up peach beach splash to find out what this heaven's casket is for myself.
 
Oh, that's fair, but yeah, if you watch the cutscene you'd see what I mean, it's something related to environmental manip, DJ Ryouki pilots the Heaven's Casket.
 
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