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Additional revisions for Senran Kagura

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
@LephyrTheRevanchist if you're still there, maybe try having a look at these:

Resistances:

Power Nullification (Can fight Homura, who was, capable of, destroying, Orochi's curse, with her, attacks alone)

Poison Manipulation (Homura's Crimson Squad survived a poison, specifically meant to kill them)

Gravity Manipulation (Shinobi can be near black holes without much problem)

Death Manipulation (The usage of the Super-Secret Ninja Art Scroll would instantly kill the user, but Asuka wasn't affected)

Empathic Manipulation (Asuka's willpower should be massively stronger than Katsuragi's, who can forcefully change her emotions with her will)

Abilities:

Subjective Reality (Shinobi Transformation outfits aren't put on physically; rather, they're the manifestations of each shinobi's idealized appearance. These looks can reflect one's inner complexes or traumas)

Perception Manipulation (Shinobi can hide, their own presence)

Regeneration (Mid-High; Shinobi can regenerate from having their bodies be boiled in oil, which would make their skin fall up to the muscles and would evaporate all of their water and blood)

Soul Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with Ryōki, who's, a, ghost. Shinobi like Yagyū affirms that she fought ghosts before. Shinobi can interact with Yōma, which are incorporeal spirits. Shinobi can interact with Black Ice, which is, composed of, dark energy)

Matter Manipulation (Can make her swords become whips), either that or this is Transmutation, I'll let you decide this
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haven't forgotten I promise, just remind me in a couple of hours by replying to this
 
Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
@LephyrTheRevanchist if you're still there, maybe try having a look at these:

Resistances:

Power Nullification (Can fight Homura, who was, capable of, destroying, Orochi's curse, with her, attacks alone)

Poison Manipulation (Homura's Crimson Squad survived a poison, specifically meant to kill them)

Gravity Manipulation (Shinobi can be near black holes without much problem)

Death Manipulation (The usage of the Super-Secret Ninja Art Scroll would instantly kill the user, but Asuka wasn't affected)

Empathic Manipulation (Asuka's willpower should be massively stronger than Katsuragi's, who can forcefully change her emotions with her will)

Abilities:

Subjective Reality (Shinobi Transformation outfits aren't put on physically; rather, they're the manifestations of each shinobi's idealized appearance. These looks can reflect one's inner complexes or traumas)

Perception Manipulation (Shinobi can hide, their own presence)

Regeneration (Mid-High; Shinobi can regenerate from having their bodies be boiled in oil, which would make their skin fall up to the muscles and would evaporate all of their water and blood)

Soul Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with Ryōki, who's, a, ghost. Shinobi like Yagyū affirms that she fought ghosts before. Shinobi can interact with Yōma, which are incorporeal spirits. Shinobi can interact with Black Ice, which is, composed of, dark energy)

Matter Manipulation (Can make her swords become whips), either that or this is Transmutation, I'll let you decide this
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Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Resistances:

Power Nullification (Can fight Homura, who was, capable of, destroying, Orochi's curse, with her, attacks alone)

Poison Manipulation (Homura's Crimson Squad survived a poison, specifically meant to kill them)
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These need better contex to be shown, as I don't know what's happening there exactly. I assume in the nullification one, she was nulling some sort of mindhax? But the poison one, when was a poison brought up exactly?

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Gravity Manipulation (Shinobi can be near black holes without much problem)
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You should show them actually resisting this in some manner.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Death Manipulation (The usage of the Super-Secret Ninja Art Scroll would instantly kill the user, but Asuka wasn't affected)
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Disagree, as the scans directly states you would only die if you aren't skilled enough. She's simply skilled enough.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Empathic Manipulation (Asuka's willpower should be massively stronger than Katsuragi's, who can forcefully change her emotions with her will)
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Why are we assuming she has greater willpower? Also, that still wouldn't give resistance to Empath Hax, simply because he's not resisting his emotions being changed, he is forcing himself to go through those things. It's not even a supernatural ability without more context.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Subjective Reality (Shinobi Transformation outfits aren't put on physically; rather, they're the manifestations of each shinobi's idealized appearance. These looks can reflect one's inner complexes or traumas)
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Limited/minor, and should get game scans instead of linking to another site.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Perception Manipulation (Shinobi can hide, their own presence)
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This is more in line with stealth mastery.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Regeneration (Mid-High; Shinobi can regenerate from having their bodies be boiled in oil, which would make their skin fall up to the muscles and would evaporate all of their water and blood)
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She's not really regenerating there, tho, and only her skin got affected fully. I could see this being resistance to heat instead.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Soul Manipulation and Non-Physical Interaction (Can interact with Ryōki, who's, a, ghost. Shinobi like Yagyū affirms that she fought ghosts before. Shinobi can interact with Yōma, which are incorporeal spirits. Shinobi can interact with Black Ice, which is, composed of, dark energy)
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Simply non-physical interaction.

Hagane_no_Saiyajin said:
Matter Manipulation (Can make her swords become whips), either that or this is Transmutation, I'll let you decide this
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Weapon Control
 
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We do not currently accept putting numbers like that on profiles, do not attempt to add them back.

This can change if the discussion on it goes through, but right now they are not accepted
 
TheRustyOne said:
Also I've recently learned that the method to find Mirai's reaction speed here isn't usable. However it means little since her bullet speed is able to meet the tank firing at half way, despite shooting after it fired, this means her bullet is equal to or faster than the tank's round.

As such her bullets and whoever scales should just be somewhere from 1530 m/s to 1750 m/s, which is Supersonic+ to Hypersonic. This would scale to their reactions and combat speed, their running/travel speed would be something else. Right now I can say Subsonic (138 m/s) for Hibari running faster than a bullet train.
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Additional revisions for Senran Kagura

@LephyrTheRevanchist if you're still there, maybe try having a look at these: Resistances: Power Nullification (Can fight Homura, who was, capable of, destroying, Orochi's curse, with her, attacks alone) Poison Manipulation (Homura's Crimson Squad survived a poison, specifically meant to kill...
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What should we do for here?
 
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I still agree with what LephyrTheRevanchist said there.

They should be Subsonic in running/movement speed and Supersonic+ or Hypersonic in reactions and combat speed from scaling to Mirai.

We'll need staff agreement on that part.
 
Let me make sure I got this right.

Limited Subjective Reality: You need to get scans from the games first.

Stealth: They already have this.

Heat Resistance: From this feat. Only for Ryouna, you need to provide a reason for it to scale to anyone else.

Non-Physical Interaction: (Can interact with Ryōki, who's, a, ghost. Shinobi like Yagyū affirms that she fought ghosts before. Shinobi can interact with Yōma, which are incorporeal spirits. Shinobi can interact with Black Ice, which is, composed of, dark energy)

Weapon Control for Asuka:

This are the agree abilities from what I understand.
 
TheRustyOne said:
Could use that Subjective Reality scan.
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I think there might be artbooks that explain such things like the "Senran Kagura: Burst -Official Perfect Bible + Illustrations-" and "Senran Kagura: Official Design Works" Not sure if anyone wants to try getting them, that's not mentioning they'd be in Japanese too.
 
I can add the accepted abilities and speed change.

Just give me some time.
 
TheRustyOne said:
If there isn't an official one, you should ask for one in the translation request thread.
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Well, we do need the scans/raws first, I don't there there are any official translations out there as far as I know

Edit: this is the list of official guides:
  • Senran Kagura: Official Design Works -Trail of Girls-
  • Senran Kagura: Official Design Works -Crimson Girls-
  • Senran Kagura: Burst -Official Perfect Bible + Illustrations-
  • Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus -Shinobi Syllabus-
  • Senran Kagura: Shinovi Versus -Official Perfect Bible + Illustrations-
  • Senran Kagura: Estival Versus -Shinobi Summary-
  • Senran Kagura: Estival Versus -Official Perfect Bible + Illustrations-
  • Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash Art Book 2017 (Hibarock Party)
  • Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash Official Visual Collection
  • Senran Kagura: Burst Re:Newal Official Visual Collection
 
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