See, we told you we were working on it! (Naruto Revision Part 1: Scaling)

[Metalija]

Sorry if this will be discussed in a later thread but do Bijuus physicals scale to their 6-C Bijuu bombs, or will the physicals be lower?

 

[Damage3245]

Sorry if this will be discussed in a later thread but do Bijuus physicals scale to their 6-C Bijuu bombs, or will the physicals be lower?

Physicals are lower.

But we'll be covering this later.

 

[LordTracer]

Since we seem to have come to a conclusion here, Slayer and I can edit the sandboxes to reflect the new changes.

After that… we should be done.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

To make some progress with this, it may be best if we go with At least 7-B, possibly High 7-A+" for now and move on to settle anything else that needs discussing.

Since there's 1 full rating, 2 for likely, and 2 for possibly, doesn't it make sense to go with likely since it's in the middle?

 

[LordTracer]

It doesn’t really matter, can we not start another multi-page discussion over what word should be in between 7-B and High 7-A+, please

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Yeah there’s no real functional difference.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It doesn’t really matter, can we not start another multi-page discussion over what word should be in between 7-B and High 7-A+, please

I didn't think it needed to be a multi page discussion, just a simple common sense change.

 

[LordTracer]

It doesn’t matter which word is used

 

[MinatoSparkle]

It doesn’t matter which word is used

 

[Wrath_Of_Itachi]

So are the changes fine to apply?

 

[MinatoSparkle]

So are the changes fine to apply?

I think so, the only thing to decide atm is what to write Minato's justification as.

 

[KLOL506]

guys please upgrade my waifu kushina to 7-C please

 

[MinatoSparkle]

guys please upgrade my waifu kushina to 7-C please

Her chains should def be High 6-C

 

[LordTracer]

guys please upgrade my waifu kushina to 7-C please

No, 7-C is gross tier

Also Kushina has like, no feats without her chains, and we can’t talk about those until the Bijuu thread

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

No, 7-C is gross tier

RIP

 

[LordTracer]

RIP

It is objectively the most ugly looking tier and I will not be accepting any other opinions

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

It is objectively the most ugly looking tier and I will not be accepting any other opinions

Might be coping

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

It is objectively the most ugly looking tier and I will not be accepting any other opinions

Tier 1-C: Hello

 

[LordTracer]

Tier 1-C: Hello

Oof, you right

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

No, 7-C is gross tier

not as bad as low 7-B or High 6-B or Low 4-C

 

[EmilioRory10]

not as bad as low 7-B or High 6-B or Low 4-C

High 5-A which is completely unrelated to 5-A

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So has the Minato issue been cleared up? If so what's left?

 

[LordTracer]

So has the Minato issue been cleared up? If so what's left?

Slayer’s editing Minato’s sandbox, and after that, we should be done.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Slayer’s editing Minato’s sandbox, and after that, we should be done.

Nice! I'm glad we can finally rap this one up so you guys can prepare for the later ones.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

I see it's been done, so that's cool. Just one note. "It was also stated in the Databook that after crossing baldes many times, Minato and A's power became mutually recognized."
1. Blades
2. It says Minato's power became mutually recognized with Ay and Bee combined, which is consistent with Ay thinking Minato couldn't be surpassed. So it should look more like "It was also stated in the Databook that after crossing blades many times, Minato and the AB team's military forces became mutually recognized."

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I see it's been done, so that's cool. Just one note. "It was also stated in the Databook that after crossing baldes many times, Minato and A's power became mutually recognized."
1. Blades

Ooof, fair.

2. It says Minato's power became mutually recognized with Ay and Bee combined, which is consistent with Ay thinking Minato couldn't be surpassed. So it should look more like "It was also stated in the Databook that after crossing blades many times, Minato and the AB team's military forces became mutually recognized."

Sure, that works.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Aye congrats on a successful revision then Nard peeps

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Aye congrats on a successful revision then Nard peeps

Yeah I need to rest my debating brain in a hot tub after that ordeal.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Alright, I think I've edited all the profiles I needed to edit.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Alright, I think I've edited all the profiles I needed to edit.

Are those profiles Naruto, Minato, and Obito? Why'd you remove the possibly for Obito?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Are those profiles Naruto, Minato, and Obito?

Ye, plus Konan and Juugo.
Tracer is the one who edited Naruto though, tbf.

Why'd you remove the possibly for Obito?

Tbh it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Obito has absolutely no AP feats against Minato, and it makes no sense for Minato to be referring to his physical strength when talking to Naruto, because we know the reason he views him as dangerous is due to his hax, knowledge of Konoha's inner workings, and the potential that he's Madara Uchiha.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Ye, plus Konan and Juugo.
Tracer is the one who edited Naruto though, tbf.

Tbh it shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Obito has absolutely no AP feats against Minato, and it makes no sense for Minato to be referring to his physical strength when talking to Naruto, because we know the reason he views him as dangerous is due to his hax, knowledge of Konoha's inner workings, and the potential that he's Madara Uchiha.

Nice

I mean, sure I guess. I guess this is mostly irrelevant at this point, but I just wanna note that it probably refers at least to speed since what Minato saw Obito display that night was speed and hax, so it should scale YM Obito above the likes of SM Naruto in speed, and support his low end relativity to pre-retcon Minato.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

Wait, now that I think about it, isn't grabbing Minato's hand and holding Minato in place and forcing him to use FTG an AP feat?

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

I mean, sure I guess. I guess this is mostly irrelevant at this point, but I just wanna note that it probably refers at least to speed since what Minato saw Obito display that night was speed and hax, so it should scale YM Obito above the likes of SM Naruto in speed, and support his low end relativity to pre-retcon Minato.

yea, but this isn't a speed CRT

 

[EmilioRory10]

Wait, now that I think about it, isn't grabbing Minato's hand and holding Minato in place and forcing him to use FTG an AP feat?

I think it's LS

 

[LordTracer]

Why do y’all keep bringing up new stuff when we’re done smh smh

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wait, now that I think about it, isn't grabbing Minato's hand and holding Minato in place and forcing him to use FTG an AP feat?

That's more like a Lifting Strength Feat since Minato literally can't break out of Obito Restraining him Physically or with his Chains, but I see what you're getting at.

 

[MinatoSparkle]

That's more like a Lifting Strength Feat since Minato literally can't break out of Obito Restraining him Physically or with his Chains, but I see what you're getting at.

But like if Minato's AP was way higher then Obito wouldn't have been able to stop the momentum of his strike, his hand would've just been swept aside by Minato's or at least pushed far.

 

[UchihaSlayer96]

Wait, now that I think about it, isn't grabbing Minato's hand and holding Minato in place and forcing him to use FTG an AP feat?

No.
The first one is more of a skill and speed feat. He materialized his arm at the exact position of Minato's arm and caught it. Minato used FTG because he was getting sucked into Kamui.

Second one is just LS. He restrained Minato with the chains, but didn't actually harm him.

 

[Tetsucabrah]

Not sure if this has been discussed but why is Base Kisame scaling to a calc he did in his shark mode while extremely high off B's chakra?