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See, we told you we were working on it! (Naruto Revision Part 1: Scaling)

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Finally… after all this time… it’s finally here. Welcome to the Naruto Tier 7 Scaling Revisions!

Before we get started, big thanks to @M3X, @Wrath_Of_Itachi, @Jvando, @Rocker1189 and @Shadowbokunohero for helping out with the planning for this revision, as well as to @Damage3245 for checking over everything beforehand and offering his approval, and of course to @UchihaSlayer96 for splitting the main workload with me and creating many of the sandboxes that will display what the profiles will look like post-revision. This revision definitely wouldn’t have been possible without any of them or at the very least, it would’ve taken a hell of a lot longer

Anyways, let’s get into what you all came here for.

Most 7-Bs scale to 30% of Kisame’s calc (9.93 megatons)
Stronger 7-Bs directly scale to or above Kisame’s calc (33.10 megatons)
High 7-As scale to Sage Naruto and Pain’s calcs (1.77 gigatons)
Most High 7-As scale to KN6’s calc (2.4 gigatons)
High 7-A+s upscale from KCM, who scales to KN6 Naruto’s calc (2.65 gigatons)
These are the values that the characters will be scaling to.

NOTE: Kisame’s calc is essentially just a placeholder to replace the faulty calcs currently on the profiles. We will eventually have many more calcs to use, so we won’t be scaling everyone off of that one calc.

This is the meat of the revision itself, showing what the scaling and profiles will look like, and what the verse page will look like as well.

NOTE: Please refrain from discussing scaling related to the Bijuu, or really anything Tier 6 for that matter. That will be saved for its own thread in the future.

NOTE #2: The scaling for non-canon and Boruto characters has NOT been changed from what they are now. They are only here because they scale to characters that are having their tiers changed. If their scaling needs to be changed and it probably does, it’ll be handled in a different revision.

NOTE #3: You might notice that a lot of characters have blank striking strength and durability justifications, but don’t worry about that, we’ll add in some basic “Comparable to his/her attack potency” justifications while editing the actual profiles.


This is noted in the sandbox for the scaling (and if you pay attention, you’ll see that they’re missing from the revised verse page), but these profiles are low quality and/or have scaling that is entirely baseless. Unless someone can find stuff for them, they should simply be deleted.

This is only the first part of a grand revision plan. Part 2 of the revision plan will be handling, ironically, the scaling of Part I.

Let’s keep this civil, and let’s finally start fixing this verse.
 
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For Kakashi:

(Can drastically increase his strength with the Perfect Susano’o). This should be outside the () and with a "higher" with Susano'o.

For Neji:

Country level with Kaiten (Alongside Hiashi, he was able to repel the hand of the Second Form Juubi[5], which was reiterated in the databook[6])

Completely disagree. I thought this was a joke. Neji with a 6-B technique early on is absurd.

For Minato:

He is Ay's rival, they fought a lot of times according to Ay, and Ay used his cloak in the only time we saw them fighting. I think he should get a likely or a possibly High 7-A.

For Verse page:
  • Should mention Choji's Butterfly Mode AP Value
 
In the literal next page, B goes straight through his blade. (Chapter 412). That is absolutely not enough to say Suigetsu scales to B.
Blocked a punch from the Raikage, though his sword broke right afterwards
You’ve got to be kidding with this one. Suigetsu himself said that A would’ve ripped his arms off if they weren’t made of water. (Chapter 461).
Darui knocked back Sasuke with water and lightning style
Sasuke is completely unharmed by this. (Chapter 461).
Literally the next time we see Jūgo, he has A’s fist going through his defenses. (Chapter 462).

These guys have absolutely no business scaling to A and being High 7-A. At best, CS2 Jūgo could downscale, but even that is extremely iffy.
 
@RanaProGamer; you're going a bit circular there by saying Suigetsu fought Jugo and Jugo fought Suigetsu as part of their justifications.

The Sasuke that Darui knocked back is only High 7-A with his Susano'o which he didn't use against Darui.

Jugo got his shield practically caved in by the Raikage and was being thrashed by him otherwise.
 
Kind of disagree with Jugo, Suigetsu and Darui, which might affect more of the scaling chain. The 3 are consistently High 7-A.

Suigetsu: Blocked a strike from Killer B that was meant to kill Sasuke, which is also impressive considering that he's weak to lightning ninjutsu.
He fought Partial Cure Mark Jugo
The Killer B you're referring to is rated as "At least 7-B" in the sandbox because he got stronger in the War Arc (like pretty much everyone else). Not to mention, B completely overpowered these guys, including Sasuke, the strongest of the 3, even while essentially playing around.
Post the full context, his sword broke AND his arms were liquified, with him saying they would've been wrenched off if he wasn't made of water lol. He absolutely does not scale.
None of these guys are High 7-A, so...
Yeah, no.
And of course, this would create a small scaling chain, that will span till Boruto (New Era Konohamaru, Kara, etc)
Unlikely.
 
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