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All the characters will, and that's assuming the best case scenario. It's not a thing against Minato, the verse just has trash feats in general.Yo if Minato goes to High 7-C I will literally riot-
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All the characters will, and that's assuming the best case scenario. It's not a thing against Minato, the verse just has trash feats in general.Yo if Minato goes to High 7-C I will literally riot-
All the characters will, and that's assuming the best case scenario. It's not a thing against Minato, the verse just has trash feats in general.
Unless we just have High 7-C mid tiers and 7-A Sannin tiers
Does it tho? Does it really? And it's not everyone, you said it's just the 7-Bs, when he should really be grouped with the High 7-A+s.All the characters will, and that's assuming the best case scenario. It's not a thing against Minato, the verse just has trash feats in general.
Yeah, yeah it does. Without wanked calcs, this is the best we can hope for.Does it tho? Does it really?
Hehehe, maybe.when he should really be grouped with the High 7-A+s.
He ain’t going past Sage Naruto, I hate to break the news to you
mehYeah, yeah it does. Without wanked calcs, this is the best we can hope for.
Hehehe, maybe.
BruhTo save the embarassment, might as well delete Minato's base key and keep him as KCM Minato.
Next Revision, im calling it, Some Of Part 1 will be High 8-C
Possibly less, but we'll see how some of the calcs turn out.
Yeah, Juubito being Country level isn't good for my health.Lmao it appears as of late Nard is struggling to maintain any decent calcs, like Jesus Hashirama was High 6-A only yesterday.
Possibly less, but we'll see how some of the calcs turn out.
It’s ok, Kurama is planetary on YouTubeYeah, Juubito being Country level isn't good for my health.
So we can take this 2 ways.Oh also a statement I thought of in a debate that I thought I'd bring up
I don’t think Kakashi’s seen anyone that would be stronger than Minato at that point anyways. So the current scaling kinda takes it both ways.So we can take this 2 ways.
#1, Minato's the strongest mf on the planet and no one can surpass him but Naruto
#2 Rasenshuriken training
2So we can take this 2 ways.
#1, Minato's the strongest mf on the planet and no one can surpass him but Naruto
#2 Rasenshuriken training
Let me give you contextI don’t think Kakashi’s seen anyone that would be stronger than Minato at that point anyways. So the current scaling kinda takes it both ways.
I actually meant to collect the various statements of “Naruto can surpass Minato” from that arc but I forgot
Imo, Base Minato>KCM NarutoImo, Base Minato> Base Pre war Naruto
Why would it mean Rasenshuriken training specifically? It's not like Rasenshuriken is the only S ranked jutsu out there, so just being able to master it wouldn't make him the only shinobi capable of surpassing Minato.So we can take this 2 ways.
#1, Minato's the strongest mf on the planet and no one can surpass him but Naruto
#2 Rasenshuriken training
He knows Ohnoki, Ay, Mei, and Gaara.I don’t think Kakashi’s seen anyone that would be stronger than Minato at that point anyways. So the current scaling kinda takes it both ways.
I actually meant to collect the various statements of “Naruto can surpass Minato” from that arc but I forgot
That does not guarantee they are not talking about AP.Let me give you context
I guarantee you they are not talking about AP.
And then the Rasenshuriken is straight up stated to have power on Minato’s level lelI guarantee you they are not talking about AP.
When did Kakashi ever meet Ōnoki, Mei or A at any point prior to the Akatsuki Suppression Arc? Also I’m pretty sure Kakashi never saw Kazekage Gaara in action sooooooHe knows Ohnoki, Ay, Mei, and Gaara.
Rasenshuriken is an S Ranked Jutsu which combined peak levels of Shape Transformation with Nature Transformation, something Naruto and Minato didn't do.Why would it mean Rasenshuriken training specifically? It's not like Rasenshuriken is the only S ranked jutsu out there, so just being able to master it wouldn't make him the only shinobi capable of surpassing Minato.
Kakashi: Naruto could master Shape and Nature transformationThat does not guarantee they are not talking about AP.
So first it surpasses then it rivals.And then the Rasenshuriken is straight up stated to have power on Minato’s level lel
Normally, I like a little chaos, but no.Release baubawang11, invite carnage, accept the chaos.
We have it as >= Minato for a reason forehead smh smhSo first it surpasses then it rivals.
Next imma see a scan that says it dwarfs Minato's strength
A future revision that’ll probably happen, nothing to worry about yet.What's this talk about the 7-Bs becoming High 7-C? Did something happen?
Literally nobody said otherwise.Minato would BODY the Sannin.
You guys are clowns
I reiterate: literally nobody said otherwise.Base Minato*
No clowns hereYou guys are clowns
Sorry, it's just meh to meWe have it as >= Minato for a reason forehead smh smh
But yes, I do agree that Kakashi’s statements there are not necessarily AP, but when Naruto actually whips out the Rasenshuriken, it is straight up said to be a display of power on the level of the Fourth Hokage soooooo
Display of power can mean more than one thing.And then the Rasenshuriken is straight up stated to have power on Minato’s level lel
When did Kakashi ever meet Ōnoki, Mei or A at any point prior to the Akatsuki Suppression Arc? Also I’m pretty sure Kakashi never saw Kazekage Gaara in action soooooo
Complexity of technique is what determines rank.Rasenshuriken is an S Ranked Jutsu which combined peak levels of Shape Transformation with Nature Transformation, something Naruto and Minato didn't do.
Nobody's talking about S Ranked jutsu. We're talking about the complexity of the technique
Kakashi: Naruto could master Shape and Nature transformation
Powerscalers: Naruto can get stronger than Minato
Gahlee
So first it surpasses then it rivals.
Next imma see a scan that says it dwarfs Minato's strength
Display: "a performance, show, or event intended for public entertainment." Having a display on par with Minato could just mean the scale of his jutsu is similar.But yes, I do agree that Kakashi’s statements there are not necessarily AP, but when Naruto actually whips out the Rasenshuriken, it is straight up said to be a display of power on the level of the Fourth Hokage soooooo
Weren't you just arguing with me about upgrading Minato a second ago? I mean, still appreciated, but ya knowSorry, it's just meh to me
We have Minato scaling above Jiraiya right? Off of scaling above sick Hiruzen who can fight Orochi, who's ~ Jiraya.
Naruto during his Sage Mode training was hype for Jiraiya level strength.
"If it can make me as strong as Pervy Sage, I'll put up with anything!" And he only knows of base Jiraiya.
Minato says PA Naruto needs extraordinary strength to beat Tobi who he bodied with a single rasengan, yet we scale his rasenshuriken and all his regular stats are above him.
But Minato level strength is already in the palm of his hand?
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Yall are gonna hate me for this one
Also, I noticed we're scaling Neji to the Juubi.
What about scaling Sage Minato's dura to Juubi Madara for taking a kick? He has no antifeats.
But Minato was talking about PA Naruto who was "supposed" to have surpassed Minato in all physicalsI mean, at the time the Rasenshuriken scaled above Naruto's normal AP so even if it's power rivaled Minato's it's still with only one attack (that was still dangerous to use and incomplete).
So I don't think it messed with things too much.
Really it’s moreso Minato > Orochimaru ≈ Jiraiya > Old HiruzenWe have Minato scaling above Jiraiya right? Off of scaling above sick Hiruzen who can fight Orochi, who's ~ Jiraya.
Naruto doesn’t really know how strong Minato is, so that first thing isn’t exactly a point against it.Naruto during his Sage Mode training was hype for Jiraiya level strength.
"If it can make me as strong as Pervy Sage, I'll put up with anything!" And he only knows of base Jiraiya.
Minato says PA Naruto needs extraordinary strength to beat Tobi who he bodied with a single rasengan, yet we scale his rasenshuriken and all his regular stats are above him.
But Minato level strength is already in the palm of his hand?
I’m gonna stop you right there. We are scaling his Kaiten’s durability AND ONLY HIS KAITEN’S DURABILITY to the Juubi. Literally the only feat it has is blocking a Juubi hand. Neji himself does not scale, only this specific defensive technique.Yall are gonna hate me for this one
Also, I noticed we're scaling Neji to the Juubi.
In the same page, Madara effortlessly yeets his arm off, aka, a blatant anti-feat. Come on now.What about scaling Sage Minato's dura to Juubi Madara for taking a kick? He has no antifeats.
So… no concrete evidence that he’s actually aware of what they’re capable of. You being “pretty sure” is not a valid argument, my guy.He's a veteran ninja that's travelled the world and done hundreds of missions. And I'm PRETTY sure he would know the fact that The Five Kage exist and have that in mind when making that statement. Besides, even if he's never met them in person, they're the literal leaders of the ninja world. He would know their reputation and stories of their power (which if anything could exaggerate beyond what they actually are as hype stories tend to do).