Sasuke Uchiha (New Era) vs Sosuke Aizen (Third Fusion)

[Snoke123]

VS

win anyway.
they will fight in an open field.
Aizen has the Hōgyoku.

 

[Ebihara]

Both links lead to blank pictures for me.

 

[Snoke123]

Both links lead to blank pictures for me.

For me it's also blank, I don't know what happened to this site.

 

[TegamiBachi25]

Profile link? Where do each scale to?

 

[Nierre]

New Era Sasuke = 1.69 Zettatons, higher with Susanoo, 10.14 Zettatons with MAS

Base/First Fusion Aizen = 99.7875 Exatons


Sasuke has a [ONE SHOT] advantage in AP

 

[Nierre]

Can Sasuke even resist Soul Crush? He gets stomped here if not.

 

[Ebihara]

Can Sasuke even resist Soul Crush? He gets stomped here if not.

can sasuke see aizen lol?

 

[Nierre]

can sasuke see aizen lol?

With his Rinnegan he should be able to, yes.

 

[Ebihara]

With his Rinnegan he should be able to, yes.

ok then i am at same point as you. does he survive soul crush? then might have a fight.

 

[Nierre]

With his Rinnegan he should be able to, yes.

Actually on second thought, he probably doesn't? I don't see anything on his profile saying he's able to see souls. He can see invisible people with his Sharingan and see inside the body to see chakra pathways with both eyes, but he can't actually see souls. So err... this might just be a mismatch

 

[KaydeeX]

I don't see anything on his profile saying he's able to see souls

Non-Physical Interaction (Soul; Users of Susano'ocan interact with the soul, as the Susano'o is a physical manifestation of their chakra,[63] or soul. Susano'o can also wield spirit weapons, which have no physical form[64][65])

Not add he has the deva paths and could see Itachi’s soul

 

[Nierre]

Yeah nvm just talked to someone and it doesnt really matter if we assume verse equalization anyway.

But yeah idk if Sasuke can survive Soul Crush

 

[Godernet]

speed should probably be equalized too,

sub rel vs FTL+

 

[Godernet]

sauce has resistance to soul manip, paralysis, and fear hax so he should be fine against RC if that's all it constitutes.

bigger issue is the massive 17x AP Gap in Sauce's favor

 

[Ebihara]

is there another key for aizen that would make this a better matchup?

 

[Nierre]

To make it more fair you'd have to nerf Sasuke and use The Last instead of New Era


The Last Sasuke: 44.37 Exatons, likely 422.95 Exatons in base , 845.9 Exatons with Ninjutsu

Base/First Fusion Aizen = 99.7875 Exatons

 

[Godernet]

is there another key for aizen that would make this a better matchup?

no

Aizen's other keys are Tier 4

The Last Sauce would help Aizen be able to hurt Sasuke physically but his AP advantage with Ninjutsu would still be almost 10x, which is well beyond the wiki's idea of a one-shot gap iirc.

 

[Snoke123]

is there another key for aizen that would make this a better matchup?

To make it more fair you'd have to nerf Sasuke and use The Last instead of New Era


The Last Sasuke: 44.37 Exatons, likely 422.95 Exatons in base , 845.9 Exatons with Ninjutsu

Base/First Fusion Aizen = 99.7875 Exatons

no

Aizen's other keys are Tier 4

The Last Sauce would help Aizen be able to hurt Sasuke physically but his AP advantage with Ninjutsu would still be almost 10x, which is well beyond the wiki's idea of a one-shot gap iirc.

yes, if i pass aizen to his Third Fusion.

 

[SharkBook01]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't you need NPI to hurt Bleach characters since they're all souls? If that's the case then Sasuke can only kill Aizen with his Susano.

 

[Deceived3596]

Aizen has access to The Hogyoku as stated in the OP, which means we're using the version of Aizen who is Fused with it, but hasn't undergone any transformations. He possesses the regenerative ability and evolutionary ability of The Hogyoku. So, anything Sasuke does won't kill Aizen, and Aizen will eventually evolve into his Tier 4 keys and gain resistances to everything Sasuke has, similar to how he did with The Kototsu.

It's a stomp for Aizen unless you restrict The Hogyoku.

 

[Godernet]

If he’ll evolve into the tier 4 state with the Hogyoku you might as well make this a match of Base Aizen with no Hogyoku

 

[Blackdragonq1]

sauce has resistance to soul manip, paralysis, and fear hax so he should be fine against RC if that's all it constitutes.

bigger issue is the massive 17x AP Gap in Sauce's favor

Has the sc layer of aizen been added and can it be used? Also, can it resist physical pressure? Let's not forget that sc is not AP based.

 

[Blackdragonq1]

It's similar to the Madara vs Aizen rivalry, and in this rivalry, no matter how much we restrict Aizen's Hogyoku and Aizen wins, but Sasuke has a better chance if we restrict the Hogyoku, it's a good thing.

 

[Blackdragonq1]

If he’ll evolve into the tier 4 state with the Hogyoku you might as well make this a match of Base Aizen with no Hogyoku

captain aizen is the best

 

[Samlex1234]

Actually on second thought, he probably doesn't? I don't see anything on his profile saying he's able to see souls. He can see invisible people with his Sharingan and see inside the body to see chakra pathways with both eyes, but he can't actually see souls. So err... this might just be a mismatch

Didn't he see Momoshiki soul in time stop? And could even sense it later on?

 

[Godernet]

Has the sc layer of aizen been added and can it be used?

Not that I know of

Also, can it resist physical pressure? Let's not forget that sc is not AP based.

People that I’ve asked have said their is an AP component to RC along with the effects listed prior

Nothing brought forward so far has given the impression that RC contains something that Sasuke can’t handle.

 

[Blackdragonq1]

Not that I know of

People that I’ve asked have said their is an AP component to RC along with the effects listed prior

Nothing brought forward so far has given the impression that RC contains something that Sasuke can’t handle.

I'm sorry but RC?

 

[Robo432343]

7 layers genjutsu gg

 

[Godernet]

I'm sorry but RC?

reiatsu crush, imma guess you usually call it soul crush?

 

[Robo432343]

sasuke has resistance to soul manip but he doesn't have resistance to his soul getting completely crushed

 

[Godernet]

sasuke has resistance to soul manip but he doesn't have resistance to his soul getting completely crushed

he probably does tbh but a sufficient explanation as to why isn't reflected on his profile yet.

RC is a mix of AP both physically and spiritually inflicted, with the added effects of Fear Hax and paralysis.

Sasuke resists Soul Manip, Fear Manip, and Paralysis

and has the physical and spiritual durability to handle the AP aspect of RC attacking his body and soul.

unless I'm missing something, there's no reason he wouldn't be fine.

 

[Blackdragonq1]

reiatsu crush, imma guess you usually call it soul crush?

yes, I usually say sc, I didn't see it called RC, it's good to see this, thanks

 

[Robo432343]

unless I'm missing something, there's no reason he wouldn't be fine.

look
"For as long as his soul is bound to this world, he'll keep coming back to life..."
you need the soul
and RC = no soul

 

[Blackdragonq1]

he probably does tbh but a sufficient explanation as to why isn't reflected on his profile yet.

RC is a mix of AP both physically and spiritually inflicted, with the added effects of Fear Hax and paralysis.

Sasuke resists Soul Manip, Fear Manip, and Paralysis

and has the physical and spiritual durability to handle the AP aspect of RC attacking his body and soul.

unless I'm missing something, there's no reason he wouldn't be fine.

I don't think Sasuke's spirit resistance can handle RC. The reason is "variety" and I think RC is not an AP-based skill. Is there such a statement in his profile? Whose AP is ahead right now?

 

[Godernet]

RC = no soul

yeah I'm not seeing any Soul based EE via RC for Base Aizen on his profile so you'll have to prove that.

I don't think Sasuke's spirit resistance can handle RC.

his soul has relative durability to his natural body so i don't see why not, especially since he resists the other abilities.

The reason is "variety"

Sasuke resists that variety from what I'm seeing

and I think RC is not an AP-based skill. Is there such a statement in his profile? Whose AP is ahead right now?

RC is the force generated by a person's Reiryoku being exerted.

Reiryoku is the spiritual energy that gives them power.

RC is quite literally the force exerted by one's power, that's practically the textbook definition of an AP ability, however as we know, it also has additional hax effects, that Sasuke already resists.

 

[Robo432343]

yeah I'm not seeing any Soul based EE via RC for Base Aizen on his profile so you'll have to prove that.

i never said its EE
its just that the soul is completely destroyed and sasuke does not have the resistance/regen to survive this

but it wont work if sasuke is stronger than aizen i think

 

[TegamiBachi25]

I'm pretty sure Aizen literally has the skill advantage since he's a soul over 110+ years old?

 

[Robo432343]

skill is not really an important factor here

 

[Godernet]

i never said its EE
its just that the soul is completely destroyed and sasuke does not have the resistance/regen to survive this

Crushed and destroyed are very different

This example also seems to be due to a large gap in spiritual power

Sasuke and Aizen are it that far apart in this key and if you use the likely rating, Sasuke is stronger

but it wont work if sasuke is stronger than aizen i think

Beat me to it, but yeah I don’t think RC would work with the gap so small

I'm pretty sure Aizen literally has the skill advantage since he's a soul over 110+ years old?

Kinda an irrelevant point here especially if that’s the argument.

Sasuke and Nard were regularly contending with Ōtsutsuki who have Centuries of Battle Experience

 

[Blackdragonq1]

yeah I'm not seeing any Soul based EE via RC for Base Aizen on his profile so you'll have to prove that.

his soul has relative durability to his natural body so i don't see why not, especially since he resists the other abilities.

Sasuke resists that variety from what I'm seeing

RC is the force generated by a person's Reiryoku being exerted.

Reiryoku is the spiritual energy that gives them power.

RC is quite literally the force exerted by one's power, that's practically the textbook definition of an AP ability, however as we know, it also has additional hax effects, that Sasuke already resists.

Basically when I say variety I don't mean RC is diverse but soul resistance is diverse. For example, resisting soul extraction is considered soul resistance but it doesn't mean resisting soul crushing. Why is soul stronger than body and how strong it is important? The AP part can be interpreted but I won't say anything for now