Lady Bone Demon vs Sosuke Aizen [7-2-0] (GRACE)

[Success0906]

So we really pitting a galactic fighter against a multiverse wrecking demon? Seems fair enough. Btw, the woman FRA.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

So we really pitting a galactic fighter against a multiverse wrecking demon? Seems fair enough. Btw, the woman FRA.

Noted

 

[Robo432343]

aizens soul crush wont work so he has no wincons now

 

[Sdjlakjh]

aizens soul crush wont work so he has no wincons now

He still have his deconstruction and transmutation

 

[Minaaaa]

not really, soul crush isnt his only ability. he still has his hogyoku and other abilities that she doesnt resist

 

[Sdjlakjh]

not really, soul crush isnt his only ability. he still has his hogyoku and other abilities that she doesnt resist

Well all of those would get countered by LBD's long range mind manip capabilities and just freeze him under ice

 

[Lloydblitzed]

not really, soul crush isnt his only ability. he still has his hogyoku and other abilities that she doesnt resist

LBD's thought based hax >

 

[Lloydblitzed]

aizens soul crush wont work so he has no wincons now

He still does

 

[Minaaaa]

how would she counter

• Illusion Creation & Perception Manipulation (Aizen's Shikai, Kyōka Suigetsu[29] allows Aizen to manipulate all of his targets 5 senses,[30] including their sense of time[31] and spiritual sight and sensing.[32] The manipulation of the senses allows Aizen to hide things from his target's sight, and could even make a fly seem like a dragon, and a swamp a flower garden. Kyōka Suigetsu's ability takes affect when the target sees the release of Kyōka Suigetsu. This ability is called Kanzen Saimin, and it allows Aizen to create flawless illusions for his target.[33] Aizen has complete control over the entirety of his opponent's sensory system.[34] Aizen can use this ability to create entire false battles through illusions.[35] Aizen additionally can use his illusions to mask entire buildings and maintain the appearance that an entire board of dead people were alive.[36] Being aware of being under the illusion or that it's coming does not help resist it[37])
• Sealing, Gravity Manipulation, Weapon Creation, Deconstruction & Space-Time Manipulation (Atomic - Hadō #90: Kurohitsugi is a high level Kidō that seals the target within a massive black rectangle.[16] The coffin then grows spikes to pierce those sealed within it. Aizen's Hadō 90 is stated to atomize anyone within it and causes gravity to distort Space and Time[17])

 

[Lloydblitzed]

how would she counter

• Illusion Creation & Perception Manipulation (Aizen's Shikai, Kyōka Suigetsu[29] allows Aizen to manipulate all of his targets 5 senses,[30] including their sense of time[31] and spiritual sight and sensing.[32] The manipulation of the senses allows Aizen to hide things from his target's sight, and could even make a fly seem like a dragon, and a swamp a flower garden. Kyōka Suigetsu's ability takes affect when the target sees the release of Kyōka Suigetsu. This ability is called Kanzen Saimin, and it allows Aizen to create flawless illusions for his target.[33] Aizen has complete control over the entirety of his opponent's sensory system.[34] Aizen can use this ability to create entire false battles through illusions.[35] Aizen additionally can use his illusions to mask entire buildings and maintain the appearance that an entire board of dead people were alive.[36] Being aware of being under the illusion or that it's coming does not help resist it[37])
• Sealing, Gravity Manipulation, Weapon Creation, Deconstruction & Space-Time Manipulation (Atomic - Hadō #90: Kurohitsugi is a high level Kidō that seals the target within a massive black rectangle.[16] The coffin then grows spikes to pierce those sealed within it. Aizen's Hadō 90 is stated to atomize anyone within it and causes gravity to distort Space and Time[17])

All activation based, and LBD herself can induce a layered perception/illusion creation combo on him

 

[Sdjlakjh]

how would she counter

• Illusion Creation & Perception Manipulation (Aizen's Shikai, Kyōka Suigetsu[29] allows Aizen to manipulate all of his targets 5 senses,[30] including their sense of time[31] and spiritual sight and sensing.[32] The manipulation of the senses allows Aizen to hide things from his target's sight, and could even make a fly seem like a dragon, and a swamp a flower garden. Kyōka Suigetsu's ability takes affect when the target sees the release of Kyōka Suigetsu. This ability is called Kanzen Saimin, and it allows Aizen to create flawless illusions for his target.[33] Aizen has complete control over the entirety of his opponent's sensory system.[34] Aizen can use this ability to create entire false battles through illusions.[35] Aizen additionally can use his illusions to mask entire buildings and maintain the appearance that an entire board of dead people were alive.[36] Being aware of being under the illusion or that it's coming does not help resist it[37])
• Sealing, Gravity Manipulation, Weapon Creation, Deconstruction & Space-Time Manipulation (Atomic - Hadō #90: Kurohitsugi is a high level Kidō that seals the target within a massive black rectangle.[16] The coffin then grows spikes to pierce those sealed within it. Aizen's Hadō 90 is stated to atomize anyone within it and causes gravity to distort Space and Time[17])

Aizen needs to manually release it which LBD can counter due to her mind manip attacks being thoughts based which is faster than action moves + LBD has inorganic psychology so Aizen's perception manip needs to be proven that it can effect beings without a brain

Aizen still needs to manually do the action which is slower than thought based attacks + LBD has unconventional resist to sealing + She can teleport away

 

[Robo432343]

all LBD's mind manip does is just hurt your head...
but i dont vote aizen

 

[Sdjlakjh]

all LBD's mind manip does is just hurt your head...
but i dont vote aizen

Uh no? It can also mind control + illusions

 

[Robo432343]

Uh no? It can also mind control + illusions

she uses mind control for her own personal benefits, not in an actual combat situation

all she does is hurt ppls head with mind hax in a fight
and she doesn't even use it that much anyway in a fight..

 

[Sdjlakjh]

she uses mind control for her own personal benefits, not in an actual combat situation

all she does is hurt ppls head with mind hax in a fight
and she doesn't even use it that much anyway in a fight..

Wdym personal benefits and combat situation? Isn't her winning is also for her personal benefits?

She uses her mind hax on almost every character she encounter like MK, Macaque, Wukong and much more. Even if it only cause pain, it would still negate Aizen's activations

 

[Minaaaa]

how does she deal with his reiatsu and it has universal range

• Aura (Overwhelming, Fear Inducement, Materialized and Explosive: Reiatsu induces a plethora of different aliments/effects onto those that affected by it like Soul Manipulation[15], Paralysis Inducement[17], Fear Manipulation[18] and many others)

LBD has unconventional resist to sealing + She can teleport away

The sealing makes her able to use her powers, not be sealed and how would she teleport away? his LS is vastly higher than hers

 

[Sdjlakjh]

how does she deal with his reiatsu and it has universal range

• Aura (Overwhelming, Fear Inducement, Materialized and Explosive: Reiatsu induces a plethora of different aliments/effects onto those that affected by it like Soul Manipulation[15], Paralysis Inducement[17], Fear Manipulation[18] and many others)

The sealing makes her able to use her powers, not be sealed and how would she teleport away? his LS is vastly higher than hers

She resistance to soul manip? Also only interdimensional range

Yes use her powers to mind control Aizen and simply make him break the seal + Well just teleport? How does Aizen's LS prevent someone from simply teleporting?

 

[Minaaaa]

She resistance to soul manip?

what about paralysis and fear?

Also only interdimensional range

Same as before, Universal to Interdimensional with Reiatsu (His Reiatsu should be comparable to Shutara's, who can shake the three realms of existence[133])

Yes use her powers to mind control Aizen and simply make him break the seal + Well just teleport? How does Aizen's LS prevent someone from simply teleporting?

the gravity would be holding her down + she'd get atomized

 

[Sdjlakjh]

what about paralysis and fear?

the gravity would be holding her down + she'd get atomized

She can still fighting despite under fear + the paralysis is bound to the fear + paralysis can't counter LBD"s mind hax

LBD would still able to teleport + Aizen needs to activate it first so would get countered by LBD's thought based hax

 

[Minaaaa]

She can still fighting despite under fear + the paralysis is bound to the fear + paralysis can't counter LBD"s mind hax

This isnt the same as being paralyzed with fear to the point where you cant even move.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

This isnt the same as being paralyzed with fear to the point where you cant even move.

If I take your point as fact, it wouldn't still able to stop LBD from mind haxxing him

 

[Minaaaa]

Why wouldn't it stop her? She'd be too afraid to do anything

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Why wouldn't it stop her? She'd be too afraid to do anything

She can still fighting despite under fear

 

[Minaaaa]

Being supernaturally afraid ≠ being scared of dying

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Being supernaturally afraid ≠ being scared of dying

It just shows she can continue to fight even if under fear + It's aura based that depends on the AP. So the fear inducement can only effect characters weaker than the user + needs to have the opponent can detect aura too

 

[Minaaaa]

Then that would make the match a stomp

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Then that would make the match a stomp

Nah not stomp since Aizen still can harm her in ways. For a match to be counted as a stomp, the opponent must have 0 wincons or has a passive ability that auto wins (It doesn't apply here since LBD's mind manip isn't passive)

 

[Minaaaa]

What wincon does he have to bypass her mind manip

 

[Sdjlakjh]

What wincon does he have to bypass her mind manip

Well 0 but still doesn't count as a stomp due to LBD's ability being not passive

 

[Minaaaa]

It would be a stomp since he can't do anything to counter her powers

 

[Sdjlakjh]

It would be a stomp since he can't do anything to counter her powers

You could still argue that he has the hogyoku to adapt to her mind manip powers but LBD then just start using her ice powers to freeze him under ice

 

[Minaaaa]

her mind powers are layerd tho. Does reactive evolution adapt to layers

 

[Sdjlakjh]

her mind powers are layerd tho. Does reactive evolution adapt to layers

I did say you could argue. Technically, it still doesn't count as a stomp anyway due the ability being not passive. It's just whoever can do their first move wins

 

[Arcker123]

There's no way this vote count is still valid after all the changes that were made mid thread. The arguments have shifted drastically

 

[UltimateMoment]

Could someone please compile the arguments?

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Could someone please compile the arguments?

Basically LBD uses her mind manip on Aizen = gg

And uh soul crush won't effect her anymore due to her profile got upgrades recently like resist to Soul Erasure and Soul Damage/Destruction

 

[UltimateMoment]

Basically LBD uses her mind manip on Aizen = gg

And uh soul crush won't effect her anymore due to her profile got upgrades recently like resist to Soul Erasure and Soul Damage/Destruction

Alright my vote for Aizen can be removed since Soul hax doesn't work on her anymore, I'll watch this thread more and vote later

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Alright my vote for Aizen can be removed since Soul hax doesn't work on her anymore, I'll watch this thread more and vote later

Sure

 

[Minaaaa]

I did say you could argue. Technically, it still doesn't count as a stomp anyway due the ability being not passive. It's just whoever can do their first move wins

this would be a stomp either way, passive or not. he has no resistance to her main ability

 

[Sdjlakjh]

this would be a stomp either way, passive or not. he has no resistance to her main ability

Well you can look at Zeno fights then. More unfair than this