Sanji (One Piece) vs Ozpin (RWBY)

[LordGinSama]

@Mor. Yes pretty easily actually.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Morlock Yes, but it doesnt always happen

 

[Morlock435]

Well, based on the description I was reading of Sanji's fighting style, it seems more aggressive than defensive, which I think will hurt him much more vs Ozpin, who should easily be able to counter an exploit weaknesses in his fighting styles. I vote for Ozpin mostly due to the skill gap. Also might be worth noting that Ozpin does tend to keep his cool, and rarely ever loses it, if that helps at all with the murderous intent, since in character Ozpin wouldn't seek to kill him but neutralize him. Unless he deemed Sanji a threat to say, his students.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Well, based on the description I was reading of Sanji's fighting style, it seems more aggressive than defensive, which I think will hurt him much more vs Ozpin, who should easily be able to counter an exploit weaknesses in his fighting styles. I vote for Ozpin mostly due to the skill gap. Also might be worth noting that Ozpin does tend to keep his cool, and rarely ever loses it, if that helps at all with the murderous intent, since in character Ozpin wouldn't seek to kill him but neutralize him. Unless he deemed Sanji a threat to say, his students.

Sanji is more the sit back and be analytical type, once he understand his opponents fighting style and picks apart weaknesses, he then flips and becomes aggressive.

But that would be hard considering the exp gap.

Vote counted

Ozpin:1

Sanji: 1

 

[LordGinSama]

Black Leg style isn't aggressive. It mixes both blocking with the users legs and striking constantly. And Ozpin lacking murderous intent doesn't hinder Kenbunshoku Haki that much since a skilled Kenbunshoku can still predict attacks and counters without the opponent having murderous intent. Again Ozpin's skill advantage won't overwhelm Sanji quickly. Considering Cinder killed Ozpin despite his skill and experience advantage over her.

 

[Morlock435]

It's described as acrobatic weaving of powerful attacks, sounds much more offensive than defensive to me.

 

[LordGinSama]

Then perhaps you should watch any of his fights especially Sanji vs Vergo. Sanji typically coats his legs in Busoshoku Haki to further his defense and offense. Again Cinder literally killed Ozpin despite his skill / experience over her.

 

[Morlock435]

That would be because Cinder is a long range fighter that also has large AoE attacks. You can't exactly parry a pillar of lava.

 

[LordGinSama]

You do realize Sanji also has long ranged fire attacks with a good amount of AoE right? That topped with Sky Walk and Kenbunshoku Haki.

 

[Morlock435]

Yes but that wouldnt be in character for him to just stay far away and spam would it? And even then he has pseudo flight compared to Cinder's flight, Cinder has multiple different ranged options, and it is entirely in character for her to play the range game. And when Ozpin did get in close he landed a flurry of blows.

 

[LordGinSama]

Sanji will also play the range game necessary. If Sanji needs to spam attacks from a range then he will do so. So yes it is in his character to do so. Not only that but Sanji can also light himself on fire making it hard for Ozpin to get close to him. Well Cinder didn't have Kenbunshoku Haki to allow her to dodge said flurry of blows.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight Lighting himself on fire wont do much considering Cinder's swords were literally on fire when Ozpin was trading blows with her

 

[Morlock435]

Nearly all of his techniques are melee, even a few of his fire attacks. The most noteworthy one would be the skywalk+ fire, but Ozpin has his barrier for that, and he would need to unleash a huge barrage to stop Ozpin from reaching him such as Cinder did.

 

[LordGinSama]

@Mor which he can do which the ranged variants of Diable Jambe. He can use it for both cqc and long ranged attacks.


@Weekly yeah but lightning yourself is a better defensive rather than lightning your sword on fight.

 

[Morlock435]

Ozpin is roughly 33% stronger feat wise than Sanji. He tanked an extremely large sustained beam from Cinder, and not only that, was pushing against it and nearly reached her. I dont see Sanji being able to put out a comparable force.

 

[LordGinSama]

Vinsmoke Reiju is strong enough to not be instantly overwhelmed by Charlotte Smoothie and Sanji is superior to her and the rest of his siblings. You'd be right by saying Ozpin is 33% stronger than Sanji if we were using Dressrosa Sanji however we're using Whole Cake Sanji and he's much stronger than before. Keep in mind 120+ megatons came from Pica who Dressrosa Zoro managed to one shot with ease even when Pica was clad in Haki. Whole Cake Sanji scales above both of them which is why he's "At least 7-A". He can also bolstered his defensive and offensive capabilities via Busoshoku Haki.

 

[LordAizenSama]

I'll respond to this in a bit. Posting this to follow and not forget.

 

[KinkiestSins]

I'll respond to this in a bit. Posting this to follow and not forget.

Oh boi. How long is a bit? Lul.

 

[KinkiestSins]

Bump

 

[Nico-v11]

Voting Ozpin FRA (ugh I hate just saying that but mostly everything's been said)

 

[LordGinSama]

Such as? Ozpins experience advantage isn't enough to win here considering Cinder was able to kill him. Sanji has him beat in agility, stamina and versatility.

 

[Ciruno_Fortes_(COB)]

I love both but Sanji overwhelms Ozpin. Knight's arguments pretty much explain everything. And yes, vast experience is useless and should actually be questioned if you can be beat by someone much younger than you.

 

[KinkiestSins]

For better or worse we have an actual debate. Sanji: 2 Ozpin: 2

 

[Morlock435]

Like I said earlier, Ozpin's experience advantage wasn't that useful in his fight vs Cinder because of her fighting style, it's much more difficult to retaliate vs ranged attacks.

 

[LordGinSama]

That makes no sense. If you have THOUSANDS years of experience then adapting to Cinders attacks should have been easy. This only goes to prove that experience doesn't always give you the win. Ozpin is the reason why the Maidens are here to begin with. Thus he should have known how to go about Cinder. So the argument that his experience is enough to win this is moot.

 

[Morlock435]

That's just not true, it doesn't matter how skilled you are you can't parry a pillar of lava. Cinder's moveset gave her the natural advantage vs Ozpin. Yes he would know what she can do, but that doesn't stop her from doing it so he dealt with it the best he can, with his barrier.

Edit: it autocorrected moveset to loveseat rip.

 

[KinkiestSins]

That makes no sense. If you have THOUSANDS years of experience then adapting to Cinders attacks should have been easy. This only goes to prove that experience doesn't always give you the win. Ozpin is the reason why the Maidens are here to begin with. Thus he should have known how to go about Cinder. So the argument that his experience is enough to win this is moot.

With all due respect, hundreds of year old giants lost to a seventeen year old rubber boy. I just call all of this pis. Ozpin does have the experience advantage in most other circumstances.

 

[LordGinSama]

You don't need to parry it. If you are even remotely smart you'd dodge instead. Again what you said makes little to no sense. "Yes he would know what she could do but that doesn't stop her from doing it." If he knew what he could do then he should have known what to do to counter her. Especially since Cinder just got her Maiden powers so she obviously wasn't very experienced with it.


You act as if her moveset is all that impressive. It's just flight, lava / fire and Aura. Which are all things Sanji can use to an extent ( He can use fire, Sky Walk and Busoshoku is like Aura to an extent.) Not only that but Sanji also has lots of experience with his fire manipulation. He can also outlast Ozpin in a fight due to the insane difference in stamina between the two.


Again Ozpin is seriously lacking in versatility here. Meanwhile Sanji has flight, fire manipulation and resistance, ranged attacks with AoE, Busoshoku Haki and Kenbunshoku Haki, stamina and the agility advantage.

 

[LordGinSama]

@Sins

Well Luffy is a different story. But Cinder beating Ozpin is far from PIS.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight Cinder had her maiden powers for at least several months, likely upwards of a full year, and in that time she developed ways to ue the Maiden powers in ways that Amber would never have been able to imagine. She knew how to use them, she just didnt have the FULL maiden power. And she has a LOT more than just those four powers.

 

[Morlock435]

That's a fundamental difference between dodging an attack and countering an attack, a ranged attack makes it so your opponent has to block or dodge, and if they don't have a ranged option of their own they can't retaliate. And this is full maiden cinder he fought. She has a MUCH larger moveset.

 

[LordAizenSama]

Sanji via precog better skill and CQC.

 

[LordGinSama]

@Weekly I thought she only had Maiden powers whenever she killed the Fall Maiden. Anyhow Ozpin should have been fully aware and should have known how to counter her powers since they came from him to begin with.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight No she stole half of Amber's power as well as her abilities the first time she attacked her, and got the rest when she killed her.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Aizen Ozpin is IMMENSELY more skilled than Sanji

 

[LordAizenSama]

Nope. Sanji is much better CQC and skill than ozpin by a mile. His best feat is being killed by cinder. He did so poorly that he got offscreened.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

...I cant tell if that's a troll answer or not. Unless Sanji randomly got several thousand years worth of combat experience across hundreds of lives, he's nowhere near as skilled as Ozpin.

 

[LordGinSama]

Anyhow that still doesn't debunk how Ozpin should have known how to defeat Cinder. So his experience isn't enough to overwhelm Sanji. Who's quite experienced himself at this point.


@Morlock And Sanji is gonna be dodging attacks and counter attacks way more than Ozpin in this fight thanks to Kenbunshoku Haki and his already great agility. Again even if she used different powers Ozpin still should have known how to counter them.

 

[Morlock435]

@Aizen He's stated that he is the culmination of hundreds of men And in just one of his past lives he single handedly ended the great war. Thats just downplaying.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Knight PIS