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Vinsmoke Sanji vs Ryu

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Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
Ryu wins Obviously
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I would not have expected you to say that.


Sanji has the ap advantage. range is equal, lifting strength does not really matter too much as Sanji does not have any grabbing attakcs afaik, and Ryu does not really grapple alot either, on top of that Sanji has a massive lifting advantage so the moves where he does grab won't work anyway. I have no clue who is a better fighter but Sanji probably has some crazy ass statement that makes him at batman level fighter or some bs like that. I belive it comes down to amps and if I got it right it's:

1.87~Base Sanji<<<Diable Jambe(Two shots people who can no sell base Sanji kicks)<stronger attacks are 3.75 gigatons

1.285=Evil Ryu<Dhalsim(No Sells hits from evil ryu[Also he managed to block Necalli at the same time if that means anything])≤Necalli<Post-Training Ryu<Power of nothingness(Oneshot Necalli)

The amps seem pretty close to me but...Speed.

Diable Jambe also amps Sanji's speed to"Comparable to gear 2 luffy" and gear two allows luffy to blitz people comparable to him in speed, so I dunno if ryu can keep up with that. The best I can see is that he goes from high hypersonic to massively hypersonic+ with the satsui no hado, and the power of nothingness seems to be a comparable amp...I don't think that's really valid .¯\(ツ)/¯

I'm leaning towards Sanji off of speed if it ain't a blitz stomp but I'm gonna wait for anyone who would know more about Street Fighter before I vote.
 
Knifeman29 said:
I would not have expected you to say that.
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Knifeman29 said:
Sanji has the ap advantage.
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Doesn't matter. Ryu just outhaxes
Knifeman29 said:
range is equal, lifting strength does not really matter too much as Sanji does not have any grabbing attakcs afaik, and Ryu does not really grapple alot either, on top of that Sanji has a massive lifting advantage so the moves where he does grab won't work anyway.
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Yeah there's no battle of fists. Maybe at first but rest of fight ain't it
Knifeman29 said:
I have no clue who is a better fighter but Sanji probably has some crazy ass statement that makes him at batman level fighter or some bs like that. I belive it comes down to amps and if I got it right it's:

1.87~Base Sanji<<<Diable Jambe(Two shots people who can no sell base Sanji kicks)<stronger attacks are 3.75 gigatons

1.285=Evil Ryu<Dhalsim(No Sells hits from evil ryu[Also he managed to block Necalli at the same time if that means anything])≤Necalli<Post-Training Ryu<Power of nothingness(Oneshot Necalli)

The amps seem pretty close to me but...Speed.

Diable Jambe also amps Sanji's speed to"Comparable to gear 2 luffy" and gear two allows luffy to blitz people comparable to him in speed, so I dunno if ryu can keep up with that. The best I can see is that he goes from high hypersonic to massively hypersonic+ with the satsui no hado, and the power of nothingness seems to be a comparable amp...I don't think that's really valid .¯\(ツ)/¯
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All this power ups make ryu's sensory and reaction speed better, so yes this fight ain't a blitz
Ryu has a lot of power nullification techniques like shingan to prevent from blitz/sanji's ap and then uses the hax
Knifeman29 said:
I'm leaning towards Sanji off of speed if it ain't a blitz stomp but I'm gonna wait for anyone who would know more about Street Fighter before I vote.
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Good but im leaning ryu cuz i don't see sanji has any resistances against deconstruction
 
Knifeman29 said:
im at work rn and I don’t get off until like 9 pm so I can’t respond too much. Ur I don’t think that deconstruction would really work on The pervert SpongeBob ginjinka
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Yeah and im gonna go to school tomorrow and study hard now because our teacher wanna take an hard exam
So debate is over
Also if deconstruction worked on sanji, zoro would have erased him a long time ago in one of their arguments
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All I'm going to say at the moment is, as a Street Fighter fan and supporter, I think the deconstruction justification is very shaky when we consider the feat was done to M. Bison of all people. You know, the guy known for putting his soul into artificial replacement bodies.
 
CrackerVolley said:
All I'm going to say at the moment is, as a Street Fighter fan and supporter, I think the deconstruction justification is very shaky when we consider the feat was done to M. Bison of all people. You know, the guy known for putting his soul into artificial replacement bodies.
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Gimme a feat that his sfv body is artificial
Also gimme another feat that his body ain't durable
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Knifeman29 said:
lifting strength does not really matter too much as Sanji does not have any grabbing attakcs afaik
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Don't have much to say rn, but I wanted to point out Sanji's LS does apply to his leg strength. So his moves would be knocking Ryu around thanks to each kick having higher LS.
 
Ryu-Strongest-Fighter-in-Universe said:
That still won't make his sfv body artificial lol
Also they are completely different with an original bison body, just look at their appearance
Also you didn't give me a feat that his sfv body isn't durable
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They are bodies based off of bison but each new body bison has was a backup made for him. A new bison is running around street fighter 6 that looks just like the old one who was destroyed, these are clone bodies. no one is saying his body isn't durable. just that the deconstruction just seems to be due to bison's body. It does not matter regardless Ryu's not gonna be gunning to kill Sanji. (He might if he saw film Z)
 
Knifeman29 said:
They are bodies based off of bison but each new body bison has was a backup made for him. A new bison is running around street fighter 6 that looks just like the old one who was destroyed, these are clone bodies. no one is saying his body isn't durable. just that the deconstruction just seems to be due to bison's body. It does not matter regardless Ryu's not gonna be gunning to kill Sanji. (He might if he saw film Z)
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Just don't use headcanon
Where exactly stated this is because of bison's body?
Theories won't work. You need a strong statement which showed us that bison's body was so weak that has been vanished by ryu's attack which is wrong
 
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