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Parallel Timeline Saitama has higher martial arts mastery than Garou who I think was decided was more skilled than DBZ Goku
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Saitama VS Goku • (1-1-0)
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Eden_Warlock99
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Lol
Still that's just around SSJ power from quite a long fight against Garou, Goku is definitely going to let him reach that, but ye
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Don’t forget Saitama has no ki.
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Don't forget Saitama time travelling and one-shotting him before the fight starts
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Garou has done stuff like this and performed techniques that only two master martial artist working in tandem can execute alongside combining 11 different martial art styles onto his fist, and Saitama copied him effortlessly.
Ki exists in OPM
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Seriously, Saitama being bloodlusted and Goku being in-character completely kills any matchup possibility lol
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if that’s the case, perhaps Goku can have an edge. It depends if he’s gonna play dumb like his fight with Frieza or give in his killing tendency.
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He wasn’t even playing dumb with Frieza. I made a post about this earlier but he genuinely believed he could make Frieza change by showing even his strongest wasn’t enough. That fight is what made him drop a bit of that attitude and just go for the kill with world ending threats.
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Put aptly, that's Goku being naive and dumb not playing dumb
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That’s him being stupid asf and pretending to be a dumbass got the worst of him. He pretended to be dumb and was actually dumb at the same time.
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IIRC Super only really shows him being out of touch with human affairs (correct me if I'm wrong)
His truly 'stupid" moment was the meditation scene in DBS Superhero but that was more like character assassination
His truly 'stupid" moment was the meditation scene in DBS Superhero but that was more like character assassination
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Dragon Ball's Ki is very specific, being a combination of Courage, Right Mindness and Energy, so i don't think we can equalize it with every Chi out there, i could be wrong tho
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Isn't it the other way around where Goku still could sense it, since it's less complex?
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Characters that are complete cowards and insane have ki some have high ones at that.
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i dunno, i am not sure how we treat such things
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which is where the "energy" part comes in, i suppose
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I don't see why Goku wouldn't be able to sense saitama
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Goku even feels the presence of a cockroach
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If Goku can sense Saitama as a threat then I suppose he’ll transform and evaporate him immediately. Guess I’m still going for Goku.
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I mean I don't see why that'd matter here
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I’m unsure but he may mean Cell since he kind of resembles a bug. Being able to sense a Bio Android should be more than enough justification
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What the hell is this derail
Goku can sense humans who have never done a minute's worth of training in their life. He can definitely sense Saitama
Goku can sense humans who have never done a minute's worth of training in their life. He can definitely sense Saitama
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Super Goku is not cannon to toei goku, so we wouldn't scale one to the other
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I’m just here to say that Post Namek Toei Goku does not spare his enemies for the heck of it, he learned his lesson from Freeza. Look at his track record. He wanted Cell dead, he killed Yakkon immediately, killed Kid Buu and all the the movie villains, and murked all the GT villains.
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I ended up forgetting that the Toei version doesn't spare enemies and it finishes before the enemy gets stronger
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