Saitama vs Goku

[Kachon123]

It's not matter hax? It's just a pointblank big AP beam.

Saitama would see that coming.

 

[MountainWine]

At the end of the fight against Black Sperm, Garou grows enough to blitz and one shot him, after that, Sage centipede appears and Garou is already capable of damaging him.

Him one shotting PS doesn’t prove a passive 10 million times multiplication against similar powered foes.

Just reread the chapter real quick. Garou did absolutely nothing (other than annoying) against SC until he noticeably transformed/evolved. Evil Ocean even had him puking out blood with a single hit. It certainly looks like he only accelerates to extreme multiplications when faced against exponentially stronger opponents and under high stress.

 

[MrTayman616]

Why?

I just wonder how instant that punch is, Garou himself states distance is irrelevant for his punches and that they are absolutely unavoidable, So he uses it right when the punch lands and opens the portal to where it touches the opponent?

 

[Kachon123]

Saitama would also just copy Instant Kamehameha like he did to Garou's energy manipulation abilities.

 

[Lort15]

Saitama FRA

 

[MrTayman616]

Garou did absolutely nothing (other than annoying) against SC until he noticeably transformed/evolved

Garou was stronger than SC himself when the fight against Black Sperm ended. SC the moment Garou started to attack was like "So strong". Garou destroyed his shells many times, SC just survived that long because he instantly regenerates, and becomes stronger considering how it was for Elder Centipete. The moment they took out his regeneration core, Garou sliced him easily with a karate chop

Evil Ocean even had him puking out blood with a single hit.

That was a team attack, not just EOW. Literally the only time they maganed to damage Garou is when they took hostage, tell Garou to not move even an inch, and attack at the same time, which SC attacked continously with most of his legs(or arms? or both).

 

[MountainWine]

Garou was stronger than SC himself when the fight against Black Sperm ended. SC the moment Garou started to attack was like "So strong". Garou destroyed his shells many times, SC just survived that long because he instantly regenerates, and becomes stronger considering how it was for Elder Centipete. The moment they took out his regeneration core, Garou sliced him easily with a karate chop


That was a team attack, not just EOW. Literally the only time they maganed to damage Garou is when they took hostage, tell Garou to not move even an inch, and attack at the same time, which SC attacked continously with most of his legs.

I’d need a definitive statement telling Garou was stronger than SC immediately after defeating PS. There isn’t sufficient context clues (it took both Garou and MB “coordinating” to hold their own). Being surprise at Garou’s strength doesn’t suggest he’s at the same level (considering he did no damage). It just means he’s surprise Garou is far stronger than he estimated. Again Garou really only started to really damage SC until he recovered from a pummeling, noticeably transformed (he looked far buffer, perhaps a visual of AD), and the fight continued for an extended period.

You’re right about the team combo (skimmed too quick). Though that doesn’t actually suggest Garou is at the same level of strength. It does justifies his AD under stress and extreme injury.

 

[MrTayman616]

I’d need a definitive statement telling Garou was stronger than SC immediately after defeating PS

Garou has been continously damaging him, even at the start of the battle, which started right after Black Sperm fight ended. this alone shows he was at least on a comparable level to SC when he started attacking him.

Saying he's stronger because he put up a better performance against SC than SC did to him, constantly causing him to back down and considered + took hostages many times, hoping it would stop him.

 

[RedReaper616]

I agree.

Again the other supporters are saying otherwise. Goku doesn’t have a 7.5 x AP/Dura gap even in SS. His attacks won’t obliterate Saitama. Meaning Immortality 2 kicks in. AD will only further open up that gap.

He would with the Super KHH. It (about) doubles your output (power level wise, which should mean above 2x, as even small gaps of only 2,000 in a power level can lead to a stomp in DBZ and a difference of 300-400 aren’t from Raditz being able to palm an attack Frieza style to being completely knocked over and weakened), as seen in the Raditz fight. So SS Goku with his Beam should reach that range.

Also, re-reading the thread, using the Subterranean fight is nonsense because that was a Dream Saitama had and isn’t applicable to a fight. Hell, Saitama doesn’t even know he grows in strength, as he didn’t notice it until he’s able to fight Garou in his wild storm of emotions. So even if he grew in strength in his dream (and nothing indicates he did) that wouldn’t really matter.

 

[Killerdrone123]

Well Goku fra

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

How much time is left until this is added? I think someone said that we hit grace already

 

[CelestialVortex01]

If Goku found himself losing, (which has happend back in namek btw) he'd keep spamming kaioken until he closes the gap between him and his opponent which is Saitama in this scenario, and if he has no other choice he would use kaioken 20x which would be 216.152 which is enough for goku to one shot Saitama, and even blitz him lol

Voting for Goku

 

[Catbowtie]

How much time is left until this is added? I think someone said that we hit grace already

I did. I think there's like 5 or so more hours. I don't know how to calculate Army time.

 

[MrTayman616]

If Goku found himself losing, (which has happend back in namek btw) he'd keep spamming kaioken until he closes the gap between him and his opponent which is Saitama in this scenario, and if he has no other choice he would use kaioken 20x which would be 216.152 which is enough for goku to one shot Saitama, and even blitz him lol

Uh... no? It's not enough to one shot him, nor anything close.

 

[TiltedFN]

Voting goku

 

[CelestialVortex01]

Uh... no? It's not enough to one shot him, nor anything close.

Yeah my bad it was a misphrase but regardless, it's almost a 3x difference in power if Saitama cannot catch up he'd end up losing plus the speed difference here is gonna be massive (goku's gonna be 20x faster) so yeah goku would win anyway

 

[MrTayman616]

Yeah my bad it was a misphrase but regardless, it's almost a 3x difference in power if Saitama cannot catch up he'd end up losing plus the speed difference here is gonna be massive so yeah goku would win anyway

Saitama has an insane AD advantage compared to Goku here. he would easily catch up with it.

 

[CelestialVortex01]

Saitama has an insane AD advantage compared to Goku here. he would easily catch up with it.

He won't be able to keep up due to the massive speed difference between both of them, plus didn't his AD rely on the upsurge of his emotions?
I doubt that would even happen in the fight between both two.

 

[MrTayman616]

He won't be able to keep up due to the massive speed difference between both of them, plus didn't his AD rely on the upsurge of his emotions?

His AD is always there, Emotions just makes it even faster. Also it increases every stats as well including speed. Saitama's AD is superior to Garou's who blitzed the person who was his equal after milliseconds. Immortality Type 2 + Explosive Growth also helps a lot here even in case he gets heavy damage.

upsurge of his emotions

It's not just things like "Death of everyone" or anything, Goku being comparable to Saitama here, would make Saitama feel emotions from the fight.

 

[Bernkastelll]

Grace ended close the thread lets add to the profiles UwU

 

[Maverick_Zero_X]

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