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Well it isn't the whole Underworld, because Hades makes a distinction between Hell and Elysion, I mean the latter is literally the story's concept of Heaven. The 2 combined= the Underworld.
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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
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Small scale refers to the fact that it's concentrated on a single point.
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Oh please. Now you just sound like a joke.
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I just checked the raws to both those scans and they do not say anything about an "end" or "a corner"It's meant in the sense of the literal physical end of that place, which is made clear by Seiya and Shaka's dialogue above speculating what could be beyond after crossing Hell and reaching its end there, and by Shaka highlighting that fact by pointing out how due it being so, light would never be able to reach there.
1st one says "idk whats on the other side of hell"
2nd one jsut says "deepest part of hell."
nothing about an end or corner
Edit: i will admit i went over them fast because im busy with stuff irl. so ididn't jisho.org the kanji
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there is no mention of being concentrated in a single point, at least in the official translation here, it literally says that it is not equivalent to the Big Bang
every time they are mentioned focusing on a single point it is mentioned in SS, at least here, when I see it, there is nothing really about the Big Bang.
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worse than not
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The top left literally says “equivalent to big bang” does it not?
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The text lied bro
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small scale: destructive power
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I forgot Toby wrote the manga
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That’s clearly not the correct interpretation. Stop looking to downplay, it’s small scale in that it’s small not that it’s weak. It’s verbatim stated as strong as the BB.
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lol, every time when it is mentioned in the translation that a blow is focused on a single point, it states that it is focused on a single point, but this one is totally different.lol
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That’s not the official English release nor is it the official Japanese release which both take precedence over this translation.
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i realized after i posted with jisho there was stuff in there that imply it
地獄の果て is "end of hell".
so im having some native speakers looking at it
but even then mathmatically which the wiki uses Infinity does have an end
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Currently looking for the raws, but yes, something being described as small scale does not mean it's weaker, it can just mean it's focused on a single point. The original Big Bang wasnt limited to a single point in space.
Edit: Here's the English translation that describes it as a "single point"
Edit: Here's the English translation that describes it as a "single point"
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Here is the raw scan
DeepL does says it uses the kanji for "single point".
黄金聖闘士が 「三位一体となって放つ この技は究極まで高め ゴールドの攻撃的小宇宙が 点に集中するためその破壊力は
小規模ながら宇宙創造のビッグバンにも匹敵する
The Golden Saints "unleash in unison, this technique, taken to its ultimate level, concentrates the offensive microcosm of gold into a single point, so that its destructive power, though small, rivals that of the Big Bang of cosmic creation.
The destructive power of this small-scale move is comparable to the Big Bang of the universe's creation.
DeepL does says it uses the kanji for "single point".
黄金聖闘士が 「三位一体となって放つ この技は究極まで高め ゴールドの攻撃的小宇宙が 点に集中するためその破壊力は
小規模ながら宇宙創造のビッグバンにも匹敵する
The Golden Saints "unleash in unison, this technique, taken to its ultimate level, concentrates the offensive microcosm of gold into a single point, so that its destructive power, though small, rivals that of the Big Bang of cosmic creation.
The destructive power of this small-scale move is comparable to the Big Bang of the universe's creation.
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I think it should be noted that Golds are always in the 7th sense. Pretty sure there’s a guide saying it’s their base forms basically
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TBH I don't recall any Gold Saint having any 3-A feats even via peak 7th sense or miracles, but Bronze Suicidalryu should get a 3-A with max power for deflecting an Athena Exclamation somehow 
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I think it makes sense, I just didn't understand why this time they put it as a small scaleHere is the raw scan
DeepL does says it uses the kanji for "single point".
黄金聖闘士が 「三位一体となって放つ この技は究極まで高め ゴールドの攻撃的小宇宙が 点に集中するためその破壊力は
小規模ながら宇宙創造のビッグバンにも匹敵する
The Golden Saints "unleash in unison, this technique, taken to its ultimate level, concentrates the offensive microcosm of gold into a single point, so that its destructive power, though small, rivals that of the Big Bang of cosmic creation.
The destructive power of this small-scale move is comparable to the Big Bang of the universe's creation.
As Seiya's blow is mentioned to be a single point
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classic gold saints do have multiple 3-A feats actually without suicide and AE and the AE Being a sucidie move is wrong lol.TBH I don't recall any Gold Saint having any 3-A feats even via peak 7th sense or miracles, but Bronze Suicidalryu should get a 3-A with max power for deflecting an Athena Exclamation somehow
when has it killed anyone lmao
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"Small" is a relative term tbh. A human is quite large in comparison to an ant, but microscopic in when compared to a tall skyscrapper. Same applies to sub atomic sizes
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Isn't end of the universe a bit too vague to automatically equate to a 3-A attack? I mean even the Saint Seiya story itself has depicted the end of universe in ways that aren't necessarily 3-A (such as the breakdown of the past universe in Next Dimension).We can scale them to Seiya's miracle of taking down the Mainstay
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Who said it was a suicide move? And it killed Shaka.
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I think 4-A makes a lot of sense, those quotes in the profile of the Dorado are mentioned about the micro universe within them, explained in the first chapter
It would be good to put 3-A with EA
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Shaka wanted to die. Dude could have laid all 3 of them out flat but took his time to toy with them.
but people have this common misconception that AE = Suicide attack. i thought thats what you were implying.
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and it really doesn't, only in a spin-off.TBH I don't recall any Gold Saint having any 3-A feats even via peak 7th sense or miracles, but Bronze Suicidalryu should get a 3-A with max power for deflecting an Athena Exclamation somehow
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Stek has already adressed the issue, but basically it was stated in reference to it's durability, and a statement of durability loses all meaning if it doesn't actually apply to it's durability. Plus, wasn't it sustained by Poseidon's Cosmo? You know, the same Poseidon who upon waking up overtook the entire universe in seconds iirc
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Taking your shirt off is a greater amp than 2626th senseTBH I don't recall any Gold Saint having any 3-A feats even via peak 7th sense or miracles, but Bronze Suicidalryu should get a 3-A with max power for deflecting an Athena Exclamation somehow
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I was making fun of Shiryu and his suicidal recklessness as a character, like when he tried to deflect the Athena Exclamation and somehow succeeded.
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is mentioned about the pillars of Poseidon?
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Yeah I'm pretty sure they mentioned something about his Divine Will permeating his underwater realm. Cape Sunion had something similar but for Athena too iirc
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I'm not saying it's not about its durability, just that "end of the universe" is a really vague reference point to default to 3-A due to all the numerous ways such a thing could happen, especially when even the Saint Seiya story itself has showcased that something it considers to be a form of immediate universal destruction doesn't necessarily seem to be an outright 3-A explosion, and only 3-A in the range of the environmental destruction.
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I understand, but the pillars would only have universal resistance because of Athena, how would this scale for them? since there was no sacrifice of Athena
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Poseidon's Cosmo seems like a suitable replacement. The guy literally spread out his Cosmo over the entire universe after waking up. It's not hard to see this guy amping the defenses of his Mainstay to that level himself.
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So wait if I'm getting this right, you're saying that the Mainstay isn't enduring the end of the universe all at once? Is it in reference to Shijima vs Shaka?
