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disagree is crying now, is it? Your stalking me is getting serious, y'know?
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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
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I tended bro
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Actually, its in the very rare and elusive TLC special chapters.
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I think he's talking about on the staff revision forum he noticed that you jumped fast on SS when the opportunity was there.
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how did you jump, bro?
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Sorry, my English is very bad, if something strange came out, it's Google translator, it sometimes puts something I don't want to say
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here in Brazil we call Saint Seiya Knights of the Zodiac, and how do you call us your countries?
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Ah mb
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I’m usually on those same threads
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this looks like persecution against me and it's implicating me, I just disagreed and you advanced on me like a lion, I'm afraid of that.
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Sorry you feel that way.
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It's okay, brother!
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It is only mentioned once and is basically a place where only one character reached enlightenment (the 8th Sense), and this is more of a hax, than something indicating level, as the Wiki currently does not treat characters existing on a higher plane or dimension as a power level, and simply mentions some sort of hax, which is why Ghidora in Godzilla Anime Movie, despite being a being existing in a higher dimension is only High 6-A or Low 2-C (based on some feats). In fact, in the TLC universe there is not even hax above the planetary level, it is even the series with the highest amount of anti-feats in this franchise. Although well, one thing that always stood out in TLC was the hax of certain characters.
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The LC special chapters has the 8th sense with the soul and mind "transcending space as well as time" of "the universe" and they can "perceive the multiverse" (RFD) its also mentioned the 8th sense escapee the "higher dimensional membrane"
I had nonbias native Japanese speaking people look over the scans to check accuracy of current translations. The fan translation in multiple languages were somewhat wrong.
You are right that this is hax only and nothing else. But it does increase power just not known how much.
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5 characters in LC obtained the 8th sense as well.
Asmita, Sisyphus, Iliad, Regulus, and Ahisma?? (The buddhist thing in LC Asmita Gaiden.)
Asmita, Sisyphus, Iliad, Regulus, and Ahisma?? (The buddhist thing in LC Asmita Gaiden.)
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Spoilers for chapter 22 of Dark Wing (this month's chapter is 28 pages long).
Chapter preview (the characters in the image are Scorpius Eulalia, Aquarius Tristan, Virgo Renge and Crow Jamian):
Some spoilers:
Jamian and Capella appear reprising their role as Silver Saints in this universe. So Aiolos, Jamian and Capella also exist in this universe and occupy the same place they had in the original manga (main universe).
A new warrior appears: Shedim, the Sword King's Rider; who seems to be in the service of the Demiurgos.
In doing some research, the Shedim are spirits or demons in the Tanakh and Jewish mythology.
There are no pictures of the chapter yet and there probably won't be many spoilers for this chapter, because well, the only spin-off currently being published that fans in this part of the world care enough to buy the magazine and post spoilers is Rerise of Poseidon, but whatever comes out I'll post it.
There is no chapter of Dark Wing in next month's Champion RED and no mention of when it returns either, so there will be nothing new from Saint Seiya in the month of March, as Rerise of Poseidon returns in April and the movie is released on April 28 and also around that time Requiem Vol. 5 and Next Dimension Vol. 14 will be released.
Chapter preview (the characters in the image are Scorpius Eulalia, Aquarius Tristan, Virgo Renge and Crow Jamian):
Some spoilers:
Jamian and Capella appear reprising their role as Silver Saints in this universe. So Aiolos, Jamian and Capella also exist in this universe and occupy the same place they had in the original manga (main universe).
A new warrior appears: Shedim, the Sword King's Rider; who seems to be in the service of the Demiurgos.
In doing some research, the Shedim are spirits or demons in the Tanakh and Jewish mythology.
There are no pictures of the chapter yet and there probably won't be many spoilers for this chapter, because well, the only spin-off currently being published that fans in this part of the world care enough to buy the magazine and post spoilers is Rerise of Poseidon, but whatever comes out I'll post it.
There is no chapter of Dark Wing in next month's Champion RED and no mention of when it returns either, so there will be nothing new from Saint Seiya in the month of March, as Rerise of Poseidon returns in April and the movie is released on April 28 and also around that time Requiem Vol. 5 and Next Dimension Vol. 14 will be released.
They never mention anything about the multiverse and only mention the universe or in this case time and space, and it was to reach the dimension where Ilias is currently located, who exists on a higher plane and has united with nature in the world. And Asmita only managed to reach Ilias in a mental and not a spiritual aspect.
Asmita did not access the same dimension as Ilias and even mentions that he was still mastering this power when he talks to Defteros, and only Regulus and Sisyphus became one with nature just like Ilias, so only they managed to reach the same state of existence as him after their deaths.
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Typing on phone sucksSpoilers for chapter 22 of Dark Wing (this month's chapter is 28 pages long).
Chapter preview (the characters in the image are Scorpius Eulalia, Aquarius Tristan, Virgo Renge and Crow Jamian):
Some spoilers:
Jamian and Capella appear reprising their role as Silver Saints in this universe. So Aiolos, Jamian and Capella also exist in this universe and occupy the same place they had in the original manga (main universe).
A new warrior appears: Shedim, the Sword King's Rider; who seems to be in the service of the Demiurgos.
In doing some research, the Shedim are spirits or demons in the Tanakh and Jewish mythology.
There are no pictures of the chapter yet and there probably won't be many spoilers for this chapter, because well, the only spin-off currently being published that fans in this part of the world care enough to buy the magazine and post spoilers is Rerise of Poseidon, but whatever comes out I'll post it.
There is no chapter of Dark Wing in next month's Champion RED and no mention of when it returns either, so there will be nothing new from Saint Seiya in the month of March, as Rerise of Poseidon returns in April and the movie is released on April 28 and also around that time Requiem Vol. 5 and Next Dimension Vol. 14 will be released.
They never mention anything about the multiverse and only mention the universe or in this case time and space, and it was to reach the dimension where Ilias is currently located, who exists on a higher plane and has united with nature in the world.
Asmita did not access the same dimension as Ilias and even mentions that he was still mastering this power when he talks to Defteros, and only Regulus and Sisyphus became one with nature just like Ilias, so only they managed to reach the same state of existence as him after their deaths.
They do mention the multiverse. Conformed by several native Japan speaking people.
I'll go back and look at context but I'm certain it mention something about asmita briefly awakening it. I can't do it tonight though.
Renge better be op!
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No, in that scene nothing is mentioned about the multiverse, it is only described that Asmita's mind transcended time and space, in this case the universe, which is the time and space where these characters live.
He awakened it briefly, but did not master this sense, so he does not exist on the same plane as Ilias, nor did he become one with nature. The only ones who reached the same level as Ilias are Sisyphus and Regulus, the first Regulus sees him and talks to him when he becomes one with nature and the second is literally mentioned as having become one with nature.
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Sorry bro Kanji for the multiverse does appear. I double checked.
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No, it only mentions the inner universe of beings and the outer universe that surrounds them, and how their mind transcends the notion of space and time, identifying their own existence, it is a philosophical and enlightenment based theme, that is why in the end Asmita managed to understand how the world really works at that moment.
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.... the Kanji for "notion" doesn't appear... that would make it an even higher Tier 1 feat of it did....
We can agree to disagree but I'm going to be go by what People who live on Japan says not flimsy normally wrong translation that get translated from Japan to French then to another language line English pr BR which is what I noticed happened. A rushed translation with little quality control.
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I wonder if Jamian and Capella also got isekaid by their deaths.
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Yes, but the Spanish fans have a better translation, even someone who knows the language translated that part and simply mentions that his mind transcends space and time. And before that, reference is made to the universe and how Asmita understood both his inner self and the universe around him. There is no mention of the multiverse in that scene, in fact as far as I remember only Okada uses the word multiverse in his story.
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There is 3 different kanjis for multiverse.
多元宇宙論 simply refers to the theory of a multiverse in a generalized sense.
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what is the page number for me to see here in my language?
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Probably won't do much good. Every translation I saw ripped from the French Translator Cede who translated things backwards in a few cases horrible changed the meaning of sentence. He's the guy that got "Notion" and "concept" of Space time transcendence from the LC special chapter but no where does it mention that. He also mistranslated "multiple dimensions" because that's not what that Kanji actually means. There were other mistakes he made on there but those were the 2 most prominent ones.
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No, it is simply the way in which the multiverse is directly described, a word that only Okada uses, the rest describe it indirectly with mentions of parallel universes or something that could refer to the existence of a multiverse.
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That Kanji I showed literally means "theory of the multiverse".......
..... there,is 2 other Kanji that mean a physical and tangible multiverse not a theory of it .....
Okada uses both of those out of 3
Lc used 1 of them...
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This is the translation of that scene in Spanish.
P18
Ilias: Desafortunadamente, la gente en la Tierra se olvidó de esto, ellos ignoran el deseo por rezos y armonía
Están entrando a una era de mentiras, explotación, destrucción y división
Y "la profecía dice"
"Una calabaza llena de cenizas caerá sobre la tierra del sol"
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Sisyphos: ¡¡Asmita...!!
Asmita: La fundación del universo existe tanto dentro como en el exterior
Eso es cierto hasta el final
P20-21
Sisyphos: El Cosmo de Asmita está incrementando...
Extendiéndose más allá del territorio de su pensamiento...
Asmita: Qué... es como ser liberado de una especie de restricción
Como entendi la estructura de este mundo desde el principio...
Yo sé quien soy...
Mis pensamientos han ido más allá del tiempo y espacio
Ah sin dudarlo ni por un momento...
P22-23
Asmita: Yo soy...
Sisyphos: No puede ser, estos son los pensamientos de Asmita...
Illias: Has despertado... Asmita
Asmita: Si, no soy mas que una parte en la fundacion de este universo
Tú también... es lo mismo para todos los que cargan con esta vida cíclica
Ilias: Exacto, y esto es así aun cuando te encuentras en el Inframundo
No te pierdas en ti mismo cuando te enfrentes al tiempo eterno
Sisyphos, tu tambien despertarás pronto
Lo puedo ver
... no, algún día todos los seres en este planeta despertarán
Y en ese momento, nadie podra ser confundido por Hades o ningún otro mal
No, in that story they never use that word, even there is only an inderect mention to the existence of other worlds, but there is never a scene describing the multiverse as such.
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2 things here
1 wrong pages
2 use raws
Edit: 3rd thing. Says the sane thing as ceddes French translation says which got a lot wrong
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I already added the raw and this translation is not based on the French translation, because it was translated directly by a user of a Spanish forum, I think it was Thirdeye, one of the users who answer questions and translate TLC scenes, because the others translate only Kurumada's work.
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Since you provided the scans that clears a lot up
It doesn't appear on those pages. I domt remember if it was before or after though
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I to be frank don’t trust any translation I haven’t verified with raws, especially Spanish translations as a lot of them seem to just randomly add words that don’t exist in the raws.
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Viz is the worst offender of that by far, especially with the names
"Mephisto" lol
"Mephisto" lol
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“Localised names” aren’t exactly bad translations though
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I can understand changing "Deathmask" but I don't understand Saori
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Dark Wing - Chapter 22
