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Could you tag his username? You shouldn’t post other people’s blogs without crediting them.
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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread (IV)
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Also calling Elysium a space with infinite 4D time makes it a 2-A location lol
Via infinite 4D
Via infinite 4D
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this is not from here, I think it is not very revealing, but I will mark
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I would like to read them all, could you put them here?
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It’s less about “revealing” and more just giving credit to the person who put all that effort in.
if you’re gonna like someone’s blog giving them credit is the least one could do.
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This post itself is a bit excessive and redundant with the overanalysis of semantics, and a lot of it isn't even really actually accurate, but sure, I don't think anything in the Underworld is actually a universe or infinite either. Especially the latter since Hell has an established end and corners/edges.
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I also thinkI
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The corners and ends part dont mean anything on the wiki. I remind this being a topic on the wiki shortly after tering system changes and it was deemed rgat infinity can have an edge and end. It being an anti feat requires more supporting feats.
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Apparently, this doesn’t contradict infinite size on the wiki
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That's a complete head scratcher ngl
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It's mathematics
Only like Absolute infinity can't have an end iirc
Which is like tier 0 or high 1-A here
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where is hell shown to have corners and an edge? When seiya first ends up there I’d argue it looks like a void is in the background, which could just be infinite
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DB pioneered logic clearly
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Shaka mentions the Wailing Wall as the deepest corner of Hell a few times and also calls it the end of Hell. The sky is never said to be infinite or even acknowledged besides lacking stars, Hell in general never actually is.
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Oh no, DB only went to 2-A for the sake of lay people to understand there are only 4 Galaxies lol
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Fortunately, the positive region of an x-y axis is infinite and has a corner, so if that’s the only evidence it’s not really a contradiction.
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I don't understand, how is something that has an end called infinite?
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Didn't the Specter say one of the rivers eventually lead to Elysium? That could point to it being finite.
Then again, they had to access Elysium via a literal extra dimension so if it does lead to Ely it's probably a portal or something.
In regards to the void thing, I agree it's just pure black above. That doesn't prove or disprove it being infinite.
Then again, they had to access Elysium via a literal extra dimension so if it does lead to Ely it's probably a portal or something.
In regards to the void thing, I agree it's just pure black above. That doesn't prove or disprove it being infinite.
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On an XY Axis the lines actually continue beyond said corner which only occurs due to the lines intersecting, but in this case, The Wailing Wall is also stated and shown to be the literal end of Hell itself (breaking through it even leads to a different dimension altogether). IT wouldn't be a contradiction in any case though since Hell is never actually said to be infinite in size the first place.
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Ask the common DB fan
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From what I recall the Specter seemed speculative, and hadn’t actually ever seen Elysium.
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I still think the bronzeboys crossed a wormhole, that shouldn't level up in speed.
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Ots only states to ne a border that divides 2 dimensions
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The first statement we get about Hell itself and the base layer of the Underworld I guess. It’s referred to as Endless in both official and Raws
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in math, anything can have an end, it’s just the distance to it, is infinite.
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Yeah, it's not a good position to take. They are likely seperate spaces. Wether they are infinite or not depends on how you interpret the kanji I guess. Though I also don't get why Kuru would emphasize the same thing in the same passage.
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It's described to be the end of Hell in the story, and it leads to the next destination (Elysion) because of that fact.
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The UW structure should at least be 4-A to 3-B in size given Hades himself says elysium is along the river and you need to cross billions of light years or whatever the number is.
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"end of Hell" could mean a lot. the whole structure of the UW and its series of universes etc is all called "hell" where as Elysium is the opposite of what hell is.It's described to be the end of Hell in the story, and it leads to the next destination (Elysion) because of that fact.
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Mountain Level Aiolia
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It's meant in the sense of the literal physical end of that place, which is made clear by Seiya and Shaka's dialogue above speculating what could be beyond after crossing Hell and reaching its end there, and by Shaka highlighting that fact by pointing out how due it being so, light would never be able to reach there.
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Can you prove that "Hell?" Isn't the whole structure of the Underworld?It's meant in the sense of the literal physical end of that place, which is made clear by Seiya and Shaka's dialogue above speculating what could be beyond after crossing Hell and reaching its end there, and by Shaka highlighting that fact by pointing out how due it being so, light would never be able to reach there.
Also, https://www.mathsisfun.com/numbers/...magine traveling on,stop, then it is infinite.
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well, with that I think you should do a CRT to review the underworld, where it really does not have infinite size, Hades and among other characters will also be downgraded to at least the galaxyIt's meant in the sense of the literal physical end of that place, which is made clear by Seiya and Shaka's dialogue above speculating what could be beyond after crossing Hell and reaching its end there, and by Shaka highlighting that fact by pointing out how due it being so, light would never be able to reach there.
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Hades blatantly out-scales the Athena Exclamation which is at least 3-A
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that's on a small scale to the Big Bang, and it's not literal at all.
