Saint Seiya Discussion Thread 3 - The Continuation

DrunkHC · Oct 28, 2019

Profile Chronos official website Saint Seiya. http://saintseiya-official.com/museum/character/index.php?id=101

Profile Shaka. http://saintseiya-official.com/museum/character/index.php?id=34

http://saintseiya-official.com/img/museum/character/skill/seiseiruten.jpg

seiseirute: According to the site this is a Shaka technique unlike many claim it was not the combination of Shaka and Shijima attacks

Seiseiruten definition: https://www.tanoshiijapanese.com/dictionary/stroke_order_details.cfm?entry_id=97724 -all things being in flux through the endless circle of birth, death, and rebirth; the circle of transmigration

Profile Shijima. http://saintseiya-official.com/museum/character/index.php?id=46

Shaka (Next Dimension) is easily the strongest gold saint among the originals.

-Aioria that was lightning with zeus and Hyperion power overcomes virgo but this was a momentary power.

-Shura/assassin having his powers increased by the underworld

DrunkHC · Oct 28, 2019

Galaxy Kreios technician: Soshin Jen (blood manipulation + Regenerationn)

Kreios pierces his body with his own sword to form a sword blade made of Ikhor (blood). This sword is strengthened, and the fact that it is composed of Ikhor ensures that it cannot be permanently broken (the Ikhor providing high Regenerationn ability). Créos is also possible to use his own body as a cover to perform Battō techniques.

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/55/07.jpg

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/55/08.jpg

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Desembainhada do próprio corpo!!!

Eu possuo dois poderes. Um é a capacidade de absorver o sangue e transform├í-lo em lamina...

O outro é natureza insuper├ível do sangue sagrado que só os Deuses possuem...

O poder da regenera├º├úo.

Translation

Unsheathed from own body !!!

I have two powers. One is the ability to absorb blood and turn it into lamina ...

The other is the unsurpassed nature of the holy blood that only gods possess ...

The power of Regenerationn.

DrunkHC · Oct 28, 2019

Photon Burst VS Ceos

Abrindo o Universo= Opening the universe

Trata-se de um golpe inspirado no Big Bang, a etapa final da evolu├º├úo sideral.

It is a blow inspired by the Big Bang, the final stage of outer space evolution.

DrunkHC · Oct 28, 2019

The Goddess Ker (Queres) was first mentioned in Episode G, Saga mentions the Goddess Ker, Daemons and other beings.

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/24/07.jpg

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/24/08.jpg

In Saint Seiya Origen it is shown that Saga is controlled by spirit called Lemur, this spirit controlled by Goddess Ker. https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Origin/01/(54).png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Origin/01/(78).png

Gemini Saga may be controlled a spirit of a man from the Golden Tribe (Daemon)

In Greek mythology there are Daemons who are souls of men of the golden age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(classical_mythology)

Mr.Cinos15 · Oct 29, 2019

There's probably something that I'm not seeing, but why aren't the abilities of the Saints being divided for each key?

Diinou_HotHead · Oct 29, 2019

Probably because the concept of dividing abilities for each Keys were not yet clear back then. It was a year since some big revisions, as Matt said he would be re-reading the entire series and revise it, after his TES Revisions.

But since it took waaaay too long (plus Matt's mental state isn't in the best shape), we just go and do it, to keep the profiles up-to-date.

Mr.Cinos15 · Oct 29, 2019

Alright, but aren't some of the abilities the Saints have reserved for specific keys instead of in general?

Edit: Nevermind, but should we divide the abilities now?

Diinou_HotHead · Oct 29, 2019

If people don't mind that, it should be fine. (The only reason I don't do it now is because of that)

TheUnshakableOne · Oct 29, 2019

What abilities are key specific??

Diinou_HotHead · Oct 29, 2019

Mainly the 8th sense thingies.

TheUnshakableOne · Oct 29, 2019

Key dividers are tabs right???

Diinou_HotHead · Oct 29, 2019

TheUnshakableOne · Oct 29, 2019

I'm still learning those ...

Mr.Cinos15 · Oct 29, 2019

I don't think we need tabs, but you can use them if you want to.

Dangai_Ichigo · Oct 29, 2019

Do most Saints have flight ?

Diinou_HotHead · Oct 29, 2019

Nope. Only some Gold Saints have Levitation. And the 5 Bronzes can't fly until Hades Arc.

DrunkHC · Oct 29, 2019

In manga to a side story by Ikki and Shaka where gold first appears in fact Shaka was the first Gold saint to appear wearing the cloth in the manga. Shaka erased Ikki's memories of this event.

Agora voc├¬ vai esquecer o nosso encontro...

N├úo vai se lembrar da minha imagem e nem do meu nome...

Mas se um dia nos encontrarmos frente a frente...

A memória voltar├í... junto com o seu medo

Now you will forget about our date ...

You will not remember my image or my name ...

But if we ever meet face to face ...

The memory will return ... along with your fear

Diinou_HotHead · Oct 29, 2019

Ha. Ikki the forgetful guy.

He had two memories sealed up. One about his encounter with Shaka. The other for his encounter with Pandora.

Crateris_Aeson · Oct 29, 2019

Diinou HotHead said:
Nope. Only some Gold Saints have Levitation. And the 5 Bronzes can't fly until Hades Arc.

Misty shows flight since her first appearance in the manga. He arrives at Mount Fuji like a comet.

https://imgur.com/a/qewM1wz

Misty arrives at the place like lightning from the sky.

https://imgur.com/a/H0Ru2Wc

Babel arrives flying like a flare.

https://imgur.com/a/iVszMf3

Even Kiki can fly.

https://imgur.com/a/X3Oyg84

Seiya can also fly with cosmos wings from the Silver Arc.

https://imgur.com/a/KkIkucr

DrunkHC · Oct 29, 2019

DrunkHC · Oct 29, 2019

Flight is quite common would say any silver level saint is able to fly now levitation only a few saints have shown.

In saint seiya the difference between psychic powers (sixth sense) powers cosmos (seventh sense) Saga for example had the same level of illusory ability as Ikki (sixth sense) but Saga had a much higher level of cosmos (Seventh Sense) than Ikki.

Shion and Dohko have the same level of cosmos (seventh sense) but Shion has mental abilities (sixth sense) far superior to Dohko.

Saint seiya levitation is clearly related to psychic powers, while the flying ability shown by various characters is related to the cosmos.

Mr.Cinos15 · Oct 29, 2019

That is really interesting, I never knew that the sixth sense was the psychic sense in Saint Seiya.

Man Drunk, at this rate, you should probably be making some revisions or crt's for the verse!

TheUnshakableOne · Oct 29, 2019

btw anyone got scans that prove the 6th sense is the pyschic powers, and have scans showing that its connected to the brain physically??

DrunkHC · Oct 29, 2019

Some gold saints may cross dimensions. Aries saints due to their Muvian lineage / extrasensory powers, Gemini saints dimensional skills and virgo saints can move between time-space.

Gold saints (eighth sense) can cross time through their cloths. Next Dimension Chapter 68 (Special).http://elitemangas.com/leitor/saint-seiya-next-dimension/68.6

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Next Dimension/68.6/04a.png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Next Dimension/68.6/05a.png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Next Dimension/68.6/06a.png

There are other mortal characters besides Gold Saints who have similar abilities.

Shaka Taizen:

O poder de ir e vir no tempo espa├ºo impressiona até os outros cavaleiros de ouro

The power to come and go in time-space impresses even the other golden knights

Virgo Shaka SS declara├º├úo enciclopedia 2

AerrowStorm1 · Oct 29, 2019

TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:
btw anyone got scans that prove the 6th sense is the pyschic powers, and have scans showing that its connected to the brain physically??

Yes. Here is the explanation of the Seventh Sense, stating the Sixth Sense is Psychic powers like intuition and precognition:

https://i.imgur.com/0HnSjCF.jpg

Here's the explanation of the Phantom Emperor Punch showing it physically effects the brain.

https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0009-132.png

Here's Shaka explaining the Psychic powers are the Sixth Sense and attacks his brain to sever his psychic powers.

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https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0010-077.png

DrunkHC · Oct 29, 2019

Entre las capacidades de los seres humanos se encuentran los cinco sentidos (vista, o├¡do, gusto, olfato y tacto), pero ademas existe un sexto sentido también conocido como "intuición" o "capacidad de premonición". Normalmente se dice que las personas cuyo sexto sentido est├í mas desarrollado poseen "percepción extrasensorial"

Among the abilities of human beings to be found in the five senses (sight, sound, taste, smell and touch), but in addition there is a sixth sense also known as "intuition" or "ability to premonic". It is usually said that the person whose sixth sense is but unfolded poseen "extrasensory perception"

DrunkHC · Oct 29, 2019

Shura and Aioria have the lowest mental abilities among the original golden saints according to the Taizen score.

Camus, Aphrodite, Milo have high scores and Death Mask as well.

The cancer saint has mental abilities comparable to the Gods of Fuuma no Kojiro according to Ryoma in Kurumada Suikoden, that Gods Can Bfr Dimensional.

Mu, shaka, Saga and Shion obviously have high scores on psychic abilities.

Kurumada Suikode

Spanish:

Durante la semana pasada se han observado en Japón y en otros lugares del mundo... Distorsiones de tiempo y espacio.

Distorsiones de tiempo y espacio?

Translation:

Over the past week they have been observed in Japan and elsewhere in the world ... Time and space distortions.

Time and space distortions?

Spanish:

Incluso él no podr├¡a ocultar su completa existencia de mis sentidos...

Una vez m├ís...

Sent├¡ a alguen teletransportarse...

Quién podr├¡a hacer eso adem├ís de mi, el ├║nico "guerreiro ps├¡quico" del clan Fuma, Ryoma el dragón tuerto?

Translation:

Even he couldn't hide his complete existence from my senses ...

Once again...

I felt someone teleport ...

Who could do that besides me, the only "psychic warrior" of the Fuma clan, Ryoma the one-eyed dragon?

Spanish:

Ha Ha... Ha

Esta voz... Proviene desde mi mente...

Es un ps├¡quico!

Que es esta niebla niegra!?

APARECE RYOMA, EL GUERRERO PS├ìQUICO

Translation:

Ha Ha ... Ha

This voice ... It comes from my mind ...

He is a psychic!

What is this black fog !?

APPEARS RYOMA, THE PSYCHIC WARRIOR

Spanish:

EL PSIQUICO DEL CLAN FUMA, RYOMA

Estoy... en una hendidura entre dimensiones...

Debe ser a causa de esa niebla niegra...

LA FRIA Y TENUE LUZ DE LA MUERTE

Translation:

THE PSYCHIC OF CLAN FUMA, RYOMA

I'm ... in a gap between dimensions ...

It must be because of that black fog ...

THE COLD AND HAVE DEATH LIGHT

Spanish:

Esto no fue obra de un ps├¡quico ordinario.

Sus poderes son como...

El de un Dios!

Translation:

This was not the work of an ordinary psychic.

His powers are like ...

That of a God!

Spanish:

As├¡ que...

Death Mask: tu también tienes poderes psiquicos...?

Translation:

Death Mask:So... you also have psychic powers ...?

Death mask distor├º├úo do esp├í├ºo tempo

DrunkHC · Oct 30, 2019

DrunkHC · Oct 30, 2019

DrunkHC · Oct 30, 2019

Mu Control over their own blood(telekinesis)

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/11/18.jpg

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https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/11/24.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/13/15.jpg

Shion expeled all damage from your body

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Mu Taizen:

Seus poderes mentais s├úo t├úo eficazes que conseguem n├úo só concertar armaduras, mas também curar feridas humanas.

Their mental powers are so effective that they can not only fix armor but also heal human wounds.

DrunkHC · Oct 30, 2019

Kid Kiki showed off super sense of smell. https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0014-112.png

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Kid Kiki (anime) is able to see the cracks in the cloths that the bronze saints are unable to see.

Kiki (omega) able to see the structural weakness of an armor (Chronotector) and easily destroy it by striking from its weak point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTa83Plk5Fs

Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 00

Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 01

Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 02

Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 04

DrunkHC · Oct 31, 2019

Galaxian Encyclopedia

Shaka- Tenma Kofuku:

Com os olhos abertos Shaka adquire um poder chamado de supernova e com ele, seu poder destrui├º├úo aumenta assustadoramente, como a Explos├úo Gal├íctica

With open eyes Shaka acquires a power called a supernova and with it, his destruction power increases frighteningly, as the Galaxian explosio.

Cronos- Phainomenon Arkheim

Tendo Dom├¡nio sobre todo o universo, com esta técnica Cronos pode atacar o advers├írio explorando diversos fenômenos naturais, que aumenta juntando seu próprio cosmo. Do magma que marca na profundidade do solo, o vento que varre a Terra. O ├║nico fenômeno natural que Cronos n├úo pode controlar é o rel├ómpago, a cria├º├úo de Zeus.

Having dominion over the entire universe, with this technique Kronos can attack the opponent by exploring various natural phenomena, which increases by joining his own cosmos. From the magma that marks the depth of the ground, the wind that sweeps the earth. The only natural phenomenon that Kronos cannot control is lightning, the creation of Zeus.

Poder natureza todo o universo cronos shaka

DrunkHC · Oct 31, 2019

Arc Geminga technique by Gemini Aspros

specter: O espa├ºo ao redor desse maldito est├í se distorcendo.

specter: The space around this accursed is up distorting.

-Geminga é uma estrela de N├¬utrons da constela├º├úo de G├¬meos.

-Geminga is a neutron star in the constellation Gemini.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geminga

specter: O que est├í acontecendo?
Est├í dimens├úo...

Aspros: ├ë um campo magnético concentrado...

Capaz de esmagar todas as suas células!

specter: What is going on?

This dimension ...

Aspros: It is a concentrated magnetic field ... Able to smash all your cells!

DrunkHC · Nov 1, 2019

Geist is the leader of Ghost Saints (anime)

Geist is an illusion expert his technique is: Phantom Gen Waku Ken: Through a ray (cosmos), the energy deployed takes the form of an illusion, which can be immaterial or solid, to your liking, ray has wide range.

illusory power: Geist is capable of creating a huge fleet of crewed pirate ships

range: can intercept a plane in flight

Geist trained with Shaina, she dominates the technique: Thunder Claw although her blow does not present electrical discharges like Shaina's attack. https://imgur.com/a/ZiapWwU

DrunkHC · Nov 1, 2019

Docrates feats https://imgur.com/a/gYFV2Bs

Mr.Cinos15 · Nov 1, 2019

So would that mean that Docrates is the strongest 6-C in Saint Seiya? Or would he be on the level of a Silver Saint?

DrunkHC · Nov 1, 2019

Docrates is stronger than Fly Dios... Docrates is stronger than weak silver saints.

Shiei Seinto (Saints of Private Guardia) this one is formed by Sonota Saints (saints without constellation) Docrates, Spartan and Ennetsu Saint are part of Kyoko's private guard. The weakest is the Ennetsu (fire handler), Spartan possesses the ability to teleport, can be invisible and is a telekinesis expert who was overcome Shiryu.

The same Shiryu fought and beat Algol a decent silver saint.

I'm putting the translation/scans in imgur.

Aioria photon burts and lightning capable of killing gods https://imgur.com/a/DZyeVV1

saints blood control https://imgur.com/a/nJYbZiN

Time-space feats https://imgur.com/a/zH87upO

I'll put the Aioros (last world) feats in which it shows the ability to move between dimensions too

DrunkHC · Nov 1, 2019

Shiei Saints they lost in specific situations, there was a context behind the defeats.

Docrates was thinking he had already won, Docrates had your legs frozen by Hyoga, the saints were in numerical advantage. 3VS1

Ikki is immune to fire attacks, Ennetsu Saint could not win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mKMDb6xw50 and Spartan was turned to stone by Algol

DrunkHC · Nov 2, 2019

Camus is dominated by Genrou majin ken of Aioros (last world).

This is a superior version of Genrōmaōken granting a huge increase in power on the controlled target. https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/648746/423b036257e9b247694318b327fdef68.jpg

Camus was able to arouse his God cloth

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/649816/ed1d02c1bbc76fdf5fefe5d6d14e9821.jpg

Hyoga (without the cloth) is allowed to be hit by cold air / absolute zero acting as a lightning rod

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/649816/c1b208ffd661c5aa238813685a2edc38.jpg

Hyoga wants to generate cold air like Cocytos.

Hyoga + (Isaak's life) can overcome absolute zero but the Camus god cloth: Annihilate Aurora technique is superior!

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/650538/0609154fa35b3194026346c9cac2a248.jpg

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/650538/807910032187e48ab8ae5e3199c4baa1.jpg

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Hyoga contin├║a reciebendo todo o aire fr├¡o!!!

Est├í atrapando dentro de s├¡ mismo...

... el violento ataque de Camus!?

Hyoga continues to receive all or cold air !!!

He's catching inside himself ...

... the violent attack of Camus !?

Est├í atrayendo el aire fr├¡o como si fuera un pararrayos

Planea auto-destruirse dando nacimiento en esto lugar... un aire fr├¡o similar al de Cocytos!?

It's drawing cold air like it's a lightning rod

Plan to destroy yourself by giving birth in this place ... a cold air similar to Cocytos !?

Un aire m├ís fr├¡o que el cero absoluto...

Pero el poder no est├í equilibrado

El aire fr├¡o de Hyoga que fue amplificado con una vida, est├í siendo presionado!!!

Air cooler than absolute zero ...

But the power is not balanced

The cold air of Hyoga that was amplified with a life, is being pressed!

This is a proof irrefutable that the saints can withstand absolute zero It also shows that the Cocytos ice created by Hades is colder than absolute zero!

Hyoga atrai o ar frio de camus para si.jpg 2

DrunkHC · Nov 2, 2019

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