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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread 3 - The Continuation

Profile Chronos official website Saint Seiya. http://saintseiya-official.com/museum/character/index.php?id=101

Profile Shaka. http://saintseiya-official.com/museum/character/index.php?id=34

http://saintseiya-official.com/img/museum/character/skill/seiseiruten.jpg

seiseirute: According to the site this is a Shaka technique unlike many claim it was not the combination of Shaka and Shijima attacks

Seiseiruten definition: https://www.tanoshiijapanese.com/dictionary/stroke_order_details.cfm?entry_id=97724 -all things being in flux through the endless circle of birth, death, and rebirth; the circle of transmigration

Profile Shijima. http://saintseiya-official.com/museum/character/index.php?id=46

Shaka (Next Dimension) is easily the strongest gold saint among the originals.

-Aioria that was lightning with zeus and Hyperion power overcomes virgo but this was a momentary power.

-Shura/assassin having his powers increased by the underworld
 
Galaxy Kreios technician: Soshin Jen (blood manipulation + Regenerationn)

Kreios pierces his body with his own sword to form a sword blade made of Ikhor (blood). This sword is strengthened, and the fact that it is composed of Ikhor ensures that it cannot be permanently broken (the Ikhor providing high Regenerationn ability). Créos is also possible to use his own body as a cover to perform Battō techniques.

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/55/07.jpg

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/55/08.jpg

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/55/09.jpg

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https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/55/12.jpg

Desembainhada do próprio corpo!!!

Eu possuo dois poderes. Um é a capacidade de absorver o sangue e transform├í-lo em lamina...

O outro é natureza insuper├ível do sangue sagrado que só os Deuses possuem...

O poder da regeneração.

Translation

Unsheathed from own body !!!

I have two powers. One is the ability to absorb blood and turn it into lamina ...

The other is the unsurpassed nature of the holy blood that only gods possess ...

The power of Regenerationn.

Regenerationn kreios tita espada blood
 
Photon Burst VS Ceos

Abrindo o Universo= Opening the universe

Trata-se de um golpe inspirado no Big Bang, a etapa final da evolução sideral.

It is a blow inspired by the Big Bang, the final stage of outer space evolution.

Aioria universo photon burst abrir 1
Aioria universo photon burst abrir 2
Aioria big bang photons
 
The Goddess Ker (Queres) was first mentioned in Episode G, Saga mentions the Goddess Ker, Daemons and other beings.

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/24/07.jpg

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode G/24/08.jpg

In Saint Seiya Origen it is shown that Saga is controlled by spirit called Lemur, this spirit controlled by Goddess Ker. https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Origin/01/(54).png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Origin/01/(78).png


Gemini Saga may be controlled a spirit of a man from the Golden Tribe (Daemon)

In Greek mythology there are Daemons who are souls of men of the golden age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(classical_mythology)
 
There's probably something that I'm not seeing, but why aren't the abilities of the Saints being divided for each key?
 
Probably because the concept of dividing abilities for each Keys were not yet clear back then. It was a year since some big revisions, as Matt said he would be re-reading the entire series and revise it, after his TES Revisions.

But since it took waaaay too long (plus Matt's mental state isn't in the best shape), we just go and do it, to keep the profiles up-to-date.
 
Alright, but aren't some of the abilities the Saints have reserved for specific keys instead of in general?

Edit: Nevermind, but should we divide the abilities now?
 
In manga to a side story by Ikki and Shaka where gold first appears in fact Shaka was the first Gold saint to appear wearing the cloth in the manga. Shaka erased Ikki's memories of this event.

Agora você vai esquecer o nosso encontro...

Não vai se lembrar da minha imagem e nem do meu nome...

Mas se um dia nos encontrarmos frente a frente...

A memória voltar├í... junto com o seu medo


Now you will forget about our date ...

You will not remember my image or my name ...

But if we ever meet face to face ...

The memory will return ... along with your fear

Shaka limpa a mente de ikki.jpg 2
Shaka limpa a mente de ikki
 
Ha. Ikki the forgetful guy.

He had two memories sealed up. One about his encounter with Shaka. The other for his encounter with Pandora.
 
Diinou HotHead said:
Nope. Only some Gold Saints have Levitation. And the 5 Bronzes can't fly until Hades Arc.
Misty shows flight since her first appearance in the manga. He arrives at Mount Fuji like a comet.

Misty arrives at the place like lightning from the sky.

Babel arrives flying like a flare.

Even Kiki can fly.

Seiya can also fly with cosmos wings from the Silver Arc.

 
Flight is quite common would say any silver level saint is able to fly now levitation only a few saints have shown.


In saint seiya the difference between psychic powers (sixth sense) powers cosmos (seventh sense) Saga for example had the same level of illusory ability as Ikki (sixth sense) but Saga had a much higher level of cosmos (Seventh Sense) than Ikki.

Shion and Dohko have the same level of cosmos (seventh sense) but Shion has mental abilities (sixth sense) far superior to Dohko.

Saint seiya levitation is clearly related to psychic powers, while the flying ability shown by various characters is related to the cosmos.
 
That is really interesting, I never knew that the sixth sense was the psychic sense in Saint Seiya.

Man Drunk, at this rate, you should probably be making some revisions or crt's for the verse!
 
btw anyone got scans that prove the 6th sense is the pyschic powers, and have scans showing that its connected to the brain physically??
 
Some gold saints may cross dimensions. Aries saints due to their Muvian lineage / extrasensory powers, Gemini saints dimensional skills and virgo saints can move between time-space.

Gold saints (eighth sense) can cross time through their cloths. Next Dimension Chapter 68 (Special).http://elitemangas.com/leitor/saint-seiya-next-dimension/68.6

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Next Dimension/68.6/04a.png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Next Dimension/68.6/05a.png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Next Dimension/68.6/06a.png

There are other mortal characters besides Gold Saints who have similar abilities.

Shaka Taizen:

O poder de ir e vir no tempo espa├ºo impressiona até os outros cavaleiros de ouro

The power to come and go in time-space impresses even the other golden knights

Virgo Shaka SS declaração enciclopedia 2
 
TheUpgradeManHaHaxD said:
btw anyone got scans that prove the 6th sense is the pyschic powers, and have scans showing that its connected to the brain physically??
Yes. Here is the explanation of the Seventh Sense, stating the Sixth Sense is Psychic powers like intuition and precognition:

https://i.imgur.com/0HnSjCF.jpg


Here's the explanation of the Phantom Emperor Punch showing it physically effects the brain.

https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0009-132.png


Here's Shaka explaining the Psychic powers are the Sixth Sense and attacks his brain to sever his psychic powers.

https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0010-076.png


https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0010-077.png
 
Entre las capacidades de los seres humanos se encuentran los cinco sentidos (vista, o├¡do, gusto, olfato y tacto), pero ademas existe un sexto sentido también conocido como "intuición" o "capacidad de premonición". Normalmente se dice que las personas cuyo sexto sentido est├í mas desarrollado poseen "percepción extrasensorial"

Among the abilities of human beings to be found in the five senses (sight, sound, taste, smell and touch), but in addition there is a sixth sense also known as "intuition" or "ability to premonic". It is usually said that the person whose sixth sense is but unfolded poseen "extrasensory perception"

Sentidos
 
Shura and Aioria have the lowest mental abilities among the original golden saints according to the Taizen score.

Camus, Aphrodite, Milo have high scores and Death Mask as well.

The cancer saint has mental abilities comparable to the Gods of Fuuma no Kojiro according to Ryoma in Kurumada Suikoden, that Gods Can Bfr Dimensional.

Mu, shaka, Saga and Shion obviously have high scores on psychic abilities.

Kurumada Suikode

Spanish:


Durante la semana pasada se han observado en Japón y en otros lugares del mundo... Distorsiones de tiempo y espacio.

Distorsiones de tiempo y espacio?

Translation:

Over the past week they have been observed in Japan and elsewhere in the world ... Time and space distortions.

Time and space distortions?

Spanish:

Incluso él no podr├¡a ocultar su completa existencia de mis sentidos...

Una vez más...

Sentí a alguen teletransportarse...

Quién podr├¡a hacer eso adem├ís de mi, el ├║nico "guerreiro ps├¡quico" del clan Fuma, Ryoma el dragón tuerto?

Translation:

Even he couldn't hide his complete existence from my senses ...

Once again...

I felt someone teleport ...

Who could do that besides me, the only "psychic warrior" of the Fuma clan, Ryoma the one-eyed dragon?

Spanish:

Ha Ha... Ha

Esta voz... Proviene desde mi mente...

Es un psíquico!

Que es esta niebla niegra!?

APARECE RYOMA, EL GUERRERO PSÍQUICO

Translation:

Ha Ha ... Ha

This voice ... It comes from my mind ...

He is a psychic!

What is this black fog !?

APPEARS RYOMA, THE PSYCHIC WARRIOR

Spanish:

EL PSIQUICO DEL CLAN FUMA, RYOMA

Estoy... en una hendidura entre dimensiones...

Debe ser a causa de esa niebla niegra...

LA FRIA Y TENUE LUZ DE LA MUERTE

Translation:

THE PSYCHIC OF CLAN FUMA, RYOMA

I'm ... in a gap between dimensions ...

It must be because of that black fog ...

THE COLD AND HAVE DEATH LIGHT

Spanish:

Esto no fue obra de un psíquico ordinario.

Sus poderes son como...

El de un Dios!

Translation:

This was not the work of an ordinary psychic.

His powers are like ...

That of a God!

Spanish:

Así que...

Death Mask: tu también tienes poderes psiquicos...?

Translation:

Death Mask:So... you also have psychic powers ...?

Death mask distorção do espáço tempo
Death mask teletransporte
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Aioria despite having below average mental abilities among saints still have some level of telekinesis.

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya/26/21.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya/26/22.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya/26/23.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya/26/24.jpg

Yet Aioria's demonstration of mental abilities is insignificant compared to saints with greater mental powers.

Mu(last world)

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/70/8.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/70/9.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/71/11.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/4.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/5.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/7.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/8.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/9.jpg

Shion (weakened) and Kiki VS Mu (last world)

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/10.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/11.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/12.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/13.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/72/14.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/6.jpg

Kiki VS Mu(last world)

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/7.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/8.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/9.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/10.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/11.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/13.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/73/14.jpg

Mu(classic) teleportation

https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0012-120.png

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https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-saintia-shou/65/10.jpg

All the special techniques used by Mu, Shion and Kiki combine Cosmos + mental power!

Mu Taizen

Um dos cavaleiros mais fortes

Não há similar para seus golpes que mesclam força e poder psíquico, herdados diretamente de seu mestre Shion.

Mu Taizen One of the strongest knights

There is no similarity to his blows that blend strength and psychic power, inherited directly from his master Shion.

Enciclopédia CDZ - 081 poder mental 1
 
Mu Control over their own blood(telekinesis)

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/11/18.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/11/19.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/11/20.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/11/22.jpg

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https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/11/24.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g/13/15.jpg

Shion expeled all damage from your body

https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0020-049.png

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Mu Taizen:

Seus poderes mentais s├úo t├úo eficazes que conseguem n├úo só concertar armaduras, mas também curar feridas humanas.

Their mental powers are so effective that they can not only fix armor but also heal human wounds.

Enciclopédia CDZ - 081 cura mu
 
Kid Kiki showed off super sense of smell. https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0014-112.png

https://**********.com/manga/Saint-Seiya/0014-113.png

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Kid Kiki (anime) is able to see the cracks in the cloths that the bronze saints are unable to see.

Kiki (omega) able to see the structural weakness of an armor (Chronotector) and easily destroy it by striking from its weak point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTa83Plk5Fs

Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 00
Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 01
Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 02
Kiki enxerga rachaduras invisiveis nas cloths 04
Kiki destroi armor 2
Kiki destroi armor 3
Kiki destroi armor 4
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Kiki destroi armor 6
 
Galaxian Encyclopedia

Shaka- Tenma Kofuku:

Com os olhos abertos Shaka adquire um poder chamado de supernova e com ele, seu poder destruição aumenta assustadoramente, como a Explosão Galáctica

With open eyes Shaka acquires a power called a supernova and with it, his destruction power increases frighteningly, as the Galaxian explosio.

Cronos- Phainomenon Arkheim

Tendo Dom├¡nio sobre todo o universo, com esta técnica Cronos pode atacar o advers├írio explorando diversos fenômenos naturais, que aumenta juntando seu próprio cosmo. Do magma que marca na profundidade do solo, o vento que varre a Terra. O ├║nico fenômeno natural que Cronos n├úo pode controlar é o rel├ómpago, a cria├º├úo de Zeus.

Having dominion over the entire universe, with this technique Kronos can attack the opponent by exploring various natural phenomena, which increases by joining his own cosmos. From the magma that marks the depth of the ground, the wind that sweeps the earth. The only natural phenomenon that Kronos cannot control is lightning, the creation of Zeus.

Poder natureza todo o universo cronos shaka
 
Arc Geminga technique by Gemini Aspros

specter: O espaço ao redor desse maldito está se distorcendo.

specter: The space around this accursed is up distorting.

-Geminga é uma estrela de N├¬utrons da constela├º├úo de G├¬meos.

-Geminga is a neutron star in the constellation Gemini.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geminga

specter: O que está acontecendo?
Está dimensão...

Aspros: ├ë um campo magnético concentrado...

Capaz de esmagar todas as suas células!

specter: What is going on?

This dimension ...

Aspros: It is a concentrated magnetic field ... Able to smash all your cells!

Aspros arc estrela neutron
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Geist is the leader of Ghost Saints (anime)

Geist is an illusion expert his technique is: Phantom Gen Waku Ken: Through a ray (cosmos), the energy deployed takes the form of an illusion, which can be immaterial or solid, to your liking, ray has wide range.

illusory power: Geist is capable of creating a huge fleet of crewed pirate ships

range: can intercept a plane in flight

Geist trained with Shaina, she dominates the technique: Thunder Claw although her blow does not present electrical discharges like Shaina's attack. https://imgur.com/a/ZiapWwU
 
So would that mean that Docrates is the strongest 6-C in Saint Seiya? Or would he be on the level of a Silver Saint?
 
Docrates is stronger than Fly Dios... Docrates is stronger than weak silver saints.

Shiei Seinto (Saints of Private Guardia) this one is formed by Sonota Saints (saints without constellation) Docrates, Spartan and Ennetsu Saint are part of Kyoko's private guard. The weakest is the Ennetsu (fire handler), Spartan possesses the ability to teleport, can be invisible and is a telekinesis expert who was overcome Shiryu.

The same Shiryu fought and beat Algol a decent silver saint.

I'm putting the translation/scans in imgur.

Aioria photon burts and lightning capable of killing gods https://imgur.com/a/DZyeVV1

saints blood control https://imgur.com/a/nJYbZiN

Time-space feats https://imgur.com/a/zH87upO

I'll put the Aioros (last world) feats in which it shows the ability to move between dimensions too
 
Shiei Saints they lost in specific situations, there was a context behind the defeats.

Docrates was thinking he had already won, Docrates had your legs frozen by Hyoga, the saints were in numerical advantage. 3VS1

Ikki is immune to fire attacks, Ennetsu Saint could not win https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mKMDb6xw50 and Spartan was turned to stone by Algol
 
Camus is dominated by Genrou majin ken of Aioros (last world).

This is a superior version of Genrōmaōken granting a huge increase in power on the controlled target. https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/648746/423b036257e9b247694318b327fdef68.jpg

Camus was able to arouse his God cloth

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/649816/ed1d02c1bbc76fdf5fefe5d6d14e9821.jpg

Hyoga (without the cloth) is allowed to be hit by cold air / absolute zero acting as a lightning rod

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/649816/c1b208ffd661c5aa238813685a2edc38.jpg

Hyoga wants to generate cold air like Cocytos.

Hyoga + (Isaak's life) can overcome absolute zero but the Camus god cloth: Annihilate Aurora technique is superior!

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/650538/0609154fa35b3194026346c9cac2a248.jpg

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/650538/807910032187e48ab8ae5e3199c4baa1.jpg

https://c9.ninemanga.com/es_manga/pic5/8/14856/650538/be0cd90e56b967892768ed6f52cf9e7b.jpg

Hyoga continúa reciebendo todo o aire frío!!!

Está atrapando dentro de sí mismo...

... el violento ataque de Camus!?

Hyoga continues to receive all or cold air !!!

He's catching inside himself ...

... the violent attack of Camus !?

Está atrayendo el aire frío como si fuera un pararrayos

Planea auto-destruirse dando nacimiento en esto lugar... un aire frío similar al de Cocytos!?

It's drawing cold air like it's a lightning rod

Plan to destroy yourself by giving birth in this place ... a cold air similar to Cocytos !?

Un aire más frío que el cero absoluto...

Pero el poder no está equilibrado

El aire frío de Hyoga que fue amplificado con una vida, está siendo presionado!!!

Air cooler than absolute zero ...

But the power is not balanced

The cold air of Hyoga that was amplified with a life, is being pressed!

This is a proof irrefutable that the saints can withstand absolute zero It also shows that the Cocytos ice created by Hades is colder than absolute zero!

Hyoga atrai o ar frio de camus para si
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Camus god cloth supera o zero absoluto
 
Gestalt Overcomes Hyoga's Cold Air and Mocks Him

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Next Dimension/80/05.png

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Odysseu(without the cloth) escaped from Cocythos

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-next-dimension/90/16.jpg

Shijima before becoming a saint still as a child spent a thousand days without eating or drinking

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-next-dimension/94/8.jpg

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https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-next-dimension/94/10.jpg

Death toll was a victim of Veermer's technical: Cosmic Marionation Variation and yet survived being able to fight and move around in the shape of a ball.

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