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Saint Seiya Discussion Thread 3 - The Continuation

Two in movies, Eris and Abel. He might have been able to kill Hypnos too, maybe Slayer of Gods is the title of the Pegasus Saint in general ?
 
Ah, I totally forgot about the Movies.

And yeah, Hypnos shouldn't be too hard for him, just randomly punching Hypnos is enough to damage his armor.

As for the Slayer of Gods Title, I do remember it being said in Lost Canvas that Pegasus is the one who will bring Gods down... but other series, not so much.
 
Didn't Kouga go total Power of Friendship mode on Abzu?

But still, in any case, the Pegasus Saints still has the most killcount for Gods, but not so much I would call "God Slayer"
 
Dangai Ichigo said:
Kouga did kill Abzu, who is a primordial God...Although he might have been weakened
Kouga had the power of miracles

Btw it's strongly hinted at that cloth stones in Omega were made with dunanis because abzu warped the universe
 
I think Dunamis is just another name for Divine Cosmo, yes?

Also, talking about Dunamis, I recall Shura saying before the final fight with Zeus, that Dunamis is the power that maximizes the 9th sense, and it the power that call upon nothingness.
 
Dunamis is explained in episode G but I'd have to go back and find it


Pegasus saints are the eternal heroes, who have like passive causality manipulation to help them always win, maybe they have some special ability to null Regen and immortalities??? The Pegasus cloth was always bathed in the blood of many God's
 
I think it's something like Archie Sonic's Fatehax.

While it says it helps them always win, it doesn't say they will always kill the opponent, so I don't think he'll go past negging Thanatos' Mid-Godly.

Wasn't the statement of Pegasus Cloth bathed it blood of many Gods stated for Omega Pegasus Cloth?
 
None as far as I know.

Probably because we already have the 6-C ground atomizing feat for Seiya that looks more powerful then reversing a waterfall.
 
Sounds a bit unfair, I mean both Shiryu and Hyoga have very early feats that get outshined by Seiya's

Shiryu reversed the flow of a waterfall, Hyoga destroyed an ice mountain
 
Seiya ahs another calc'able feat that looks far stronger than the 6-C calc'ed feat. its porbably further into 6-C but idk how to calc...

Hyoga as a rooki trainee also has a calc'able feat.

And each of the Saint Seiya Omega Bronze Saints have their own Calc'able feat that can be accurately scaled
 
Really ? What is it ? Is it far off in the series so we can do maybe another Key ?

Really ? Besides the one he does at the very start of the Manga ?

Which are ?
 
Seiya's Taizen Profile hints at the fact that the saints in the constellation Pegasus are differentiated, since they have been predestined from ancient times to hurt Hades.

Taizen states that many miracles occur when Seiya burns her cosmos to its fullest.

Os mistérios que envolvem a constela├º├úo Pégaso

Na época dos Deuses, Hades é ferido por um cavaleiro de Pégaso, decidindo-se por esconder definitivamente seu corpo f├¡sico nos campos El├¡seos. Esse cavaleiro tinha a fisionomia muito parecida com o Seiya.
Provavelmente, os cavaleiros de Pégaso est├úo predestinados desde épocas remotas a essa tarefa especial.


Vários milagres acontecem quando seu cosmo atinge o limite máximo.


Seu cosmo inflamado acende a chama dos milagres do cavaleiro de Pégaso!


Translation:

The mysteries surrounding the Pegasus constellation

In the time of the Gods, Hades is wounded by a Pegasus knight, vowing to permanently hide his physical body in the Elysian fields. This knight had a very similar face to Seiya.

Probably the knights of Pegasus have been predestined since ancient times to this special task.


Several miracles happen when your cosmos reaches its maximum limit.


Your fiery cosmos ignites the flame of the miracles of the Pegasus knight!
Enciclopédia CDZ - 041
Enciclopédia CDZ - 042 seiya fere deuses 1
 
So "Pegasus wanking" is not exclusive to Lost Canvas...

But still done on a smaller degree though.

Like it was just mentioned a little bit. While Lost Canvas has it as one of the main plot points.
 
The steel cloths had a publication explaining their work in the Monthly Bandai Making Journal 100

http://imgbox.com/Gfp0qW7p

http://www.saintseiyapedia.com/wiki/Interviews/Monthly_Bandai_100_-_Steel_Saints According to this text the defense of the golden cloths operate at a level impossible to be replicated by science. Molecular level, then at the atomic level and even that of quarks.

Something still below quarks!


Steel clothes distort the space through a mini black hole, which serves as the battery for steel armor being a nearly unlimited power source.


The three Steel saints were defeated by a single silver saint!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c47MhH5Al4Q
 
What does it mean by his attack power multiplies by 20×? When does it multiply? How does it multiply?

Also you guy's are doing great work finding all this stuff, how did you find it?
 
I do not know how the multiplication of power works this material is very old is all in Japanese , link to download Saint Seiya cosmo special

https://mega.nz/#!XoYHQTyB!stL6d6mYgZBNfjlt0vQqJzwB7OBFkJvWweAjN1EVUzY who knows Japanese ... the quality of the scans is low

Talking about the anime, Dubhe Siegfried almost dying has a feat FTL + Alpha Ursae Majoris (Dubhe) star https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alpha_Ursae_Majoris

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oODTjTGKfJE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMDv2y6dUnc

Gemini Saga reacts easily to Sigmund's speed Siegfried's older brother Saga speedblitz Sigmund.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZzDkWJ4zTI

Camus has a feat FTL + too. video time: 0:52

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wANbulz3Ois

Gemini Saga reacts easily to Camus's strongest attack. video time: 2:18

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUGcunnUv3M

Shun in the arch ghosts saints chapter 19 survived the lightning strike according to the Medusa saint the discharge was one million volts.

Translation: You asked. Here goes a million volts for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwkUhG0uIbc Shiryu vs Black Dragon destructive feats. Video time: 6:05

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM5aDlpQZxM

Medusa 1 milh├úo de volts - Cópia
 
Silver saints in the Southern Cross constellation claim to have lightning speed atack.

The three saints in this constellation Georg, Christ, and Kazuma are above average silver saints.

https://saintseiya.fandom.com/wiki/Southern_Cross_Kazuma

Christ's Southern Cross Thunderbolt (movie Eris) as I read it on all SS sites states that this scam is lightning fast I don't know if this book is in Japanese jump-gold-selection / volume-1

Southern Cross Thunderbolt

http://www.saintseiyapedia.com/wiki/Southern_Cross_Thunderbolt

http://www.saintseiyapedia.com/ssp_media/images/5/5b/Southern_Cross_Thunderbolt_tech_01.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAngcdksF-0

lightning from georg and his technical Geistig Blitz::

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-saintia-shou/14/31.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-saintia-shou/14/35.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-saintia-shou/15/36.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-saintia-shou/16/7.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-saintia-shou/16/11.jpg

Página (47) speed silver
 
Anyway the arguments that the power of Saint Seiya in Episode G, Assassin or Lost canvas are exaggerated is silly, SS in all mangas / animes except Netflix adaptation has a similar level of power, Okada just shows more explicitly and Shiori likes fanservice.

Shun destructive power early anime https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=911ew31HS6c

Kid Ohko disciple of Dohko feats. https://goyabu.com/video/12696/

-beats other boys bigger than him showing super strength

video time: 13:10

- Kid Shiryu his rival kicks down big trees with kicks

video time: 14:30

Ohko starts training hard to be stronger than Shiryu!

- Down a tree with punch, destroy gigantic rock with a single punch, hang a big bear.

video time: 17:15
 
Since the next part of the Revisions would be about the Hades arc, I'd like to point out that I don't remember the dead Gold Saints and the 3 beaten up by Radamanthys unlocking the 8th sense.

The 3 are just kinda resurrected by Athena's Cosmo.

While the Gold Cloths just kinda gather and revive the dead Gold Saints.

Also, I'm not sure if unlocking the 8th sense would warrant AP rating, it just make you able to stay in the Underworld while giving 0 f*uck to Hades' Law and freely leave it if you can.
 
If I remember correctly only in the Lost Canvas the 8th sense is a power up, in the classic manga instead it is simply the total control of your soul so you not die when you set foot in the underworl defying the law of Hades

Concerning the events of the wailing wall: Athena has no "jurisdiction" over people's souls, that is the competence of Hades, the goddess cannot bring the deads back to life. The only case in which Athena helped a soul return to its body was during the clash between Shiryu and Deathmask, but the soul of the "bronze" was only in the yomotsu hirasaka and not in the real underworld. So without the 8th sense none of the, already dead, gold saints could stand before the wailing wall
 
Diinou HotHead said:
Since the next part of the Revisions would be about the Hades arc, I'd like to point out that I don't remember the dead Gold Saints and the 3 beaten up by Radamanthys unlocking the 8th sense.
The 3 are just kinda resurrected by Athena's Cosmo.

While the Gold Cloths just kinda gather and revive the dead Gold Saints.

Also, I'm not sure if unlocking the 8th sense would warrant AP rating, it just make you able to stay in the Underworld while giving 0 f*uck to Hades' Law and freely leave it if you can.
Completely agree. Dohko could have it though. There was also 3 good saints that were thrown into the underworld, ahd then there's Kanon, but the rest shouldn't have it


8th sense always helps them Hades law, and death manipulation that is passive throughout the underworld. If you include Omega also passive life manipulation for life force absorption. Since Hades willed his underworld to have such unique properties.

The 8th sense is something needed just to walk into the underworld
 
The reason why 8th sense users are deemed stronger is due to them needing to burning their 7th sense high enough too awaken it because it lies deeper in one's existence meaning you need to have a higher level of Cosmo than normal 7th sense levels to attain the 8th sense.

Also all the OG Gold Saints have the 8th sense as they all revived at the Wailing Wall and were not binded by Hades's law even if some of them were helped by Athena's Cosmo. They all later revive again in ND to save Saori and Shijima who were stuck in the Space-time labyrinth of Gods used by the Grand Pope in ND.
 
In the castle of Hades the enemies of the underworld god are extremely weakened by a barrier.

The eighth sense can only be reached after death has exceptions in Lost canvas, the Regulus family who are abnormal are able to reach the eighth sense in life ilias and Sisyphus reached the eighth sense in life.

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - The Lost Canvas Gaiden/66/027.png

Eighth sense has also been shown to be a higher power level in Episode G Assassin in this case Aiolos (last world) also has eighth sense as well as ninth sense.

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/67/11.jpg

https://cdn.mangahub.io/file/imghub/saint-seiya-episode-g-assassin/67/13.jpg
 
Golden Tribe The humans of mythological time, it was probably those humans who were able to become Gods after they reached the ninth sense described in the Hypermite.

Aiolos (last world) reached the ninth sense but not became a God, Aiolos belongs to the iron tribe just like all modern humans, Aiolos needs to get the Dunamis to be able to become a God himself Aiolos who affirms this.

Golden age novel Shiryu Thoughts:

Na época em que o grande Deus Cronos governava o mundo, eram as pessoas que receberam permis├úo de viver na Terra. Havia escutado que eles eram muito diferentes da tribo dos homens que vivem na era moderna. Possu├¡am a juventude eterna. Eram seres mais próximos dos deuses que os humanos e, após a sua morte, era permitido que continuassem como esp├¡ritos divinos ao lado das divindades. Eram pessoas que realmente amavam ├ís deidades. Eles chamavam estes seres de Tribo de ouro.

Translation:

At the time when the great God Kronos ruled the world, it was the people who were allowed to live on earth. He had heard that they were very different from the tribe of men living in the modern age. They possessed eternal youth. They were beings closer to the gods than humans, and after their death they were allowed to continue as divine spirits alongside the deities. They were people who truly loved the deities. They called these beings the Golden Tribe.

Ex speaks:

"Voc├¬s s├úo a quinta gera├º├úo de tribo depois da minha. Ouro. Prata. Bronze. Depois a tribo dos Heróis. V├írias tribos surgiram, mais t├úo logo deixaram a Terra. A tribo que existe agora vive na Era de Ferro, por isso s├úo a Tribo de ferro. Zeus governa uma tribo lament├ível que vive pecando terrivelmente"

Translation:

"You are the fifth generation of tribe after mine. Gold. Silver. Bronze. Then the tribe of Heroes. Several tribes arose, but soon after they left Earth. The tribe that now lives in the Iron Age, so they are the Iron tribe. Zeus rules an unfortunate tribe that lives in terrible sin. "

Tribo de ouro juventude eterna
Tribo de ouro aparencia
 
Death Mask levitation / flight was confirmed in the manga this skill had already been shown in the anime.

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode Zero/03/03.png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Episode Zero/03/04.png

Telekinesis Shion shows Aries Saints Can Throw Multiple Heavy Projectiles at High Speed.

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Origin/02/08.png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Origin/02/09.png

https://unionleitor.top/leitor/mangas/Saint Seiya - Origin/02/10.png

According to Shion, the Mu would have been hit by one of the rocks if it were a real combat.
 
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