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This part of my reply seems to have been completely forgotten in the excitement.It's not even about doling out punishment at this point, it's about cutting off an addict from the source of that addiction.
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This part of my reply seems to have been completely forgotten in the excitement.It's not even about doling out punishment at this point, it's about cutting off an addict from the source of that addiction.
I'm not here to ask for any sort of ban against this person, but could someone check @EldemadeDityjon on his behaviour. While it's in the nature of debating for arguments to get combative, the guy has been extremely condescending, passive-aggressive, and has gone out of his way to call me dishonest. I take issue with that, so I brought the issue here.
Thread in Question: https://vsbattles.com/threads/venuzdonoa-downgrade-improved-argument.148080/
Can other staff members help to evaluate this please?Reporting @MaxLevel_King for his behaviour here & here because he doesn't know what's is sarcasm means.
He is been pissed against me just because his copy paste thread got rejected here.
Previous threads
His arguments were already debunked in these previous threads
Venuzdonoa/Anos possible downgrade
This is my first CRT. I believe Venuzdonoa shouldn't be 2-B. Here's why Note: Every scan and translation were gotten from past CRTs, the accepted cosmology blog for the verse and Anos page as I am not quite knowledgeable on the verse. Reason why Venuzdonoa is 2-B "Venuzdonoa can destroy all...vsbattles.com
Anyway atleast he should get a warning to how to behave him in community instead calling others clowns and fools.
Crab kinda did that alreadyCan other staff members help to evaluate this please?
the solution is to cut the baby in half
I think it's a bit harsh to instantly ban, even given his unsavory track record.This part of my reply seems to have been completely forgotten in the excitement.
Well I did Ignored him first you can still check his replies in the thread he started acting like this. I did called him a lier in the Downgrade thread because He was sending scans by removing the important parts & making things up just so it fits his wording. Feel free to check the scans he sent.This is ignoring the fact that you're clearly intentionally egging him on.
If it's OK then fin. But he still needs to calm down.Also, calling someone a clown ain't a report worthy offense in any capacity.
Feel free to drop the part where I did that? Calling him as lier with proof is antagonizing him? Then I don't know what to call people who lies. Do you have any other words for them.@EldemadeDityjon you’re not in the right here when you’re antagonizing Max in the entire thread, and need I remind you that this isn’t the first time you’ve been reported here, so you should be careful on what you’re doing in these threads as it will lead to a ban if you keep this behavior up.
I have proof. I wasn't calling him a lier for no reason. He openly admitted he removed the lines he didn't liked & i already posted real scans having very important parts.Even @ImmortalDread pointed out @MaxLevel_King removing the lines from orginal scans to fit his wording.
Here is the thread & trying to make others to believe he was posting real ones.
No. You're twisting my words yet again. I said that I took the scan directly from the chapter itself, so if I didn't remove any lines (ie the majority of the chapter), then I would be posting the entire chapter itself. I even gave a link to the chapters I used. The lines I "removed" didn't refute my claim either.Feel free to drop the part where I did that? Calling him as lier with proof is antagonizing him? Then I don't know what to call people who lies. Do you have any other words for them.
I have proof. I wasn't calling him a lier for no reason. He openly admitted he removed the lines he didn't liked & i already posted real scans having very important parts.
The lines I post are relevant to the point I'm making.
As always you starts ignoring & got no proof but only excuses to blame me. I asked you show me where I antagonized him. I didn't said Dread posted scans . I said dread also points out @MaxLevel_King admitting him removing important lines . Stop twisting my words.L@EldemadeDityjon You barely provided any proof especially with the link you posted here that he was lying, all you said was that he was lying to which he replies by posting the text alongside links to the full chapter, which I don't really see any evidence that he took the scans out of context from that point on. Also did you read what he said? He literally said this after "removing lines I don't like".
Removing some text to get to your point isn't being dishonest, especially when he literally posted links to the chapters where he got his text from in the first place, and looking through the rest of the thread I don't see any actual proof from you that he was taking stuff out of context as you and Dread didn't provide the full text that would debunk his point on the silver sea.
Reported by who exactly? Of course only you. Also its funny because how @Agnaa & others staffs evaluated it wasn't even major issue. You just wants me to gets banned for your personal issues or something?Also last reminder, you have been reported more than once in this thread, if you double down on your behavior and try to derail the thread with baseless accusations it will end in a ban as you've ignored numerous warnings, is that clear?
Removing lines just to make headcanons which doesn't exists in novels is still a lie. Doesn't change the fact if he did that to support for his evidence.@EldemadeDityjon You barely provided any proof especially with the link you posted here that he was lying, all you said was that he was lying to which he replies by posting the text alongside links to the full chapter, which I don't really see any evidence that he took the scans out of context from that point on. Also did you read what he said? He literally said this after "removing lines I don't like".
Removing some text to get to your point isn't being dishonest, especially when he literally posted links to the chapters where he got his text from in the first place, and looking through the rest of the thread I don't see any actual proof from you that he was taking stuff out of context as you and Dread didn't provide the full text that would debunk his point on the silver sea.
Show me where I claimed Links are fake ?Regardless, the only thing I have left to say regarding this matter is that the links aren't fake. Feel free to confirm whether they're fake or not yourselves. As @EldemadeDityjon has been going out of his way to claim that they're fake, if they're real (they are), then it should immediately become apparent how dishonest this guy has been throughout the entire situation. I then shouldn't need to continue explaining myself.
That proves @MaxLevel_King was making claims which aren't true.I don’t see any scans posted from you on this link so idk what this is supposed to prove here.
Full evidence?So you posted one line with no link to the chapter, I wouldn’t consider that full evidence unless the full context is provided.
It's funny because even other Staffs said it wasn't an issue Until if I seriously accused you and you did tried to count Everything12 vote in that thread & it is still there and your comments still exists. Don't try to act like you didn't forcibly tried to count Everything12 vote for your own.Me, KLOL and Planck all warned you in the past. Especially when you started accusing me of sockpuppeting Everything12 because of the fact we disagreed with MG having plot manipulation. Do not try to tell me you’re in the clear when you’re walking a very thin line there.
Not particularly, the last time sent me into a farly long depressive episode which is what drove me to go to therapy in the first place, i'd prefer to not go through that againDo you think that this would help you with your mental stability, @WeeklyBattles ?
If so, I would strongly suggest that you copy-paste the mental health help post that I sent you in private first, as it contains some useful advice.
I went into a depressive episode because the vast majority of people on this site, people i saw as friends, immediately cut ties with me the second i was banned and refused to talk with me for months. I know you have your own grudge against me for whatever reason and would love to see me gone but i would prefer to stay.No offense weekly but you getting into a depressive episode over being banned from the site just proves the point even more that you have a borderline obsessive behavior on versus debating as a whole. I’m siding with Crab on this, you need to cut ties with vs debating as a whole as this is not helping you, it’s only going to make things worse for you.
I do not see it that way. I see it as people trying to get rid of someone they see as a problem without ever stopping to wonder what the source of that problem is, or not bothering to deal with the source of the problem when it presents itself.Weekly..
People trying to stop you from getting hooked to this site and being overtly obsessed with it is a very good thing. It means they care about you.
I know it can be hard to take accountability for the problems you have ( not even in referral to your mental problems, just the fact that you have such strong feelings over this site which is a site mostly for fun and games when they're not making and editing profiles for characters ), but you gotta own up to it sometime.
This all happened over 1 little match being unfair in your eyes, isn't that a little.. absurd?
Weekly, I'm going to ask you to not make things worse as they already are, so I'd suggest you kindly stop responding to these comments and actually listen to the people who are asking you to step aside for the betterment of your own health, because we both know you're blatantly contradicting yourself with comments like these that make you come off as highly arrogant and persistent. So I beg you. Please, don't comment any further.Glass, im going to try to say this as politely as possible as Medeus is right and i do not want to start a flame war, but i know you hate me. I see it every time we're in the same thread, ive seen how you talk about me to others both on and off-site, i know that you want me gone. Respectfully i do not trust the course of action you think should be taken, and frankly i trust my therapist and psychiatrist over you. So no, i will not be doing that, plain and simple. If you have any concerns about my 'past actions' you are free to talk to ant about some of the things i told him, otherwise please stop, i do not feel comfortable dragging this issue out any longer than this.
Not sure how im contradicting myself but I do not see them as doing so out of concern for my health but as a means of getting rid of me because they dislike me, something they have made publicly clear, so no, i will not simply leave just because a few people on the internet think they know my mental health better than my doctors.Weekly, I'm going to ask you to not make things worse as they already are, so I'd suggest you kindly stop responding to these comments and actually listen to the people who are asking you to step aside for the betterment of your own health, because we both know you're blatantly contradicting yourself with comments like these that make you come off as highly arrogant and persistent. So I beg you. Please, don't comment any further.
Buddy. Last chance. STOP. NOW.Not sure how im contradicting myself but I do not see them as doing so out of concern for my health but as a means of getting rid of me because they dislike me, something they have made publicly clear, so no, i will not simply leave just because a few people on the internet think they know my mental health better than my doctors.
As much as I appreciate the contribution, and to be clear I do consider this a contribution rather than the usual peanut gallery level behavior typical to this thread, I'm afraid I am going to ask that people stick to what I said just before you typed up your post.Guys, you are literally pouring water from one empty bucket to another. This extensive discussion achieves nothing.
How about we do what was originally proposed: a warning. Asking, albeit aggressively, to revise one match is far from a ban-worthy violation.
Additionally, I would look into revising/improving our policy on stomp threads, since the match was very much leaning into stomp categories.
In my opinion, no one should be banned because “it will help you” or “for your own good” because non of us here are medical or mental experts. Not only that, but it sounds extremely condescending and inappropriate.
If rule was violated-punishment is due. These talks about ADHD or autism or other being used to either make punishment void or make it harsher - drop it.
Not intentionally maybe, but yelling at others and posting back and forth is prone to igniting one regardless of intentions.Literally no one is causing a flame war here, stop trying to blow this situation out of proportion as you're not helping the situation whatsoever by misconstruing some of the folk's intentions are in this thread.
Not just talking about RWBY, haven't seen RWBY threads spited nowadays but I have seen a few with Overwatch. But anyway, I stopped following Vs threads for a reason so I don't always know what goes on.Yeah, a LONG TIME ago when people were spiting RWBY because of a downgrade, literally when has this constant spite has occured these days? Because last time I checked RWBY hasn't been spammed to hell and back like Sans has been for the 18th time at this point, ESPECIALLY in the sense of spiting like throwing RWBY at every single smurf character with passive abilities out the ass.
Yeah, very briefly and he apologized for it when he realized he quoted the wrong calculation. Should Weekly learn to be less sensitive about his preferred characters and/or verses losing? Absolutely, but at the same time, when people make Vs threads involving one of Weekly's liked verses, maybe either put them against foes with closer levels of AP & Durability. There is a pass if people didn't know, but those who do know might be a different story.What Weekly has done a long time ago with his contributions to the wiki means jackshit nowadays, we're talking about the Weekly from right now, and as of right now he's only been causing massive unnecessary derailment over a freaking versus thread about a Bloodborne character losing to a tabletop RPG character, a thread mind you has been accepted to not be a stomp match whatsoever.
Again, this case was a brief moment. Also, on the Bayonetta thread to get her upgraded to 2-A, he has spoke with others who made efforts to use translations and it was argued back and forth initially when you also had your source of translations. But again, this was a conflicting translations and you initially closed that thread prematurely that even Abstractions reopened because she reviewed it and agreed it was a premature closed considering multiple users + an Admin/Super Mod agreed with the upgrade. Though of course Comicgyal requested it to be closed later and wanted to find better sources which eventually we had more face value statements once Bayonetta 3 came out. Also, you tried accusing him of "Lying through his teeth" when there is no proof of that. Innocent until proven guilty and not the other way around. Weekly gave his honest opinion on that thread and/or might have misunderstood things. I legit think you were the one being hostile in that regard.It's not harsh, it's helping him try to get out of this addiction as it's clearly shown he's not improved upon his behavior after his ban was over. I even asked other staff members to keep an eye on him the last time I reported him in case he ever goes back to old behavior as he kept claiming he's changed for the better, which I don't see especially with this stunt.
I think Mr Kerf already said it best, but saying "It's for his own good" really is a shady way to put it.Yeah, no one is telling him he's not allowed to talk to his friends about other stuff not related to versus debating, that's literally part of why him cutting ties off with versus debating is for the better, so he gets rid of his addiction.
I don't disagree that Ryukama wasn't active enough to notice, but also I recall Weekly being simply a Content Mod when that incident happened and he wasn't demoted for doing that. But he was demoted when some discussions he was in involved Overwatch downgrades and he was bickering with Dargoo Faust and Mr King of Negativity. Second, while I am not saying maybe a demotion was warranted, I did at the time think that the way it was handled was poorly handled. It was agreed they should have at least waited for Antvasima and Ryukama's commentary before applying at the very least. The incident actually caught them by surprise and the latter would have spoke out against it had he known. But the League of Legends stuff I do agree Weekly went over the line there.Yeah no offense but Ryu seems to have not noticed that back when Monarch was downgrading Tier 1 LoL that Weekly was seriously considering abusing his mod status to revert all of the changes and was completely ok with a ban as he thought it was a hill worth dying on despite dozens of staff members agreeing with the downgrade.
Im not sure what you mean, when im proven wrong i back down all the time, even in this recent bloodborne thread i was proven wrong on several points and conceded to them.My main concern is Weekly's lack of awareness when it comes to backing down.
Like in any debate against Weekly, I'm happy to concede to trivial things if they aren't worth the trouble. But what if there comes a point where the outcome of a thread has actual weight and consequences? Obviously I wouldn't back down my stance, but by that same token, neither would Weekly. And as we've seen in this case, he won't back down even against an overwhelming majority telling him he's wrong. A natural escalation is par for the course in this situation.
Weekly needs to show that he has some level of awareness and self control before he should be allowed to participate on the wiki. Saying things like "but he's wrong and I'm right" and then quadrupling down on that stance is not only a detriment to the wiki, but also his relationships with other users.
I would ask that you talk to Ant regarding this matter, i dont feel comfortable publicly posting the list of things ive had to deal with.Contrary to what he believes, the distaste certain users have of Weekly is not a conspiracy against him. The staff are not a monolith that despises him and refuse to take his side. He has simply burned bridges with individual users on separate occasions and built up a "rogues gallery" of people that do not like him. This is a pattern of behaviour that literally no other user on the wiki has performed.
Weekly needs to see how his behaviour has affected his position on the wiki and stop blaming invisible forces for his situation. Otherwise this issue will keep coming up and we will keep giving him a free pass.
Eh? Thats not what i was told...Also to add, Weekly frequently gaslights both himself and others into beliving things that aren't true. For instance he told me he resolved prior bad blood with Armorchompy but when I asked the latter if that was true he said that didn't happen since the inciting incident. I don't know if this is intentional or not so take this point with a grain of salt, but it's something that should be considered.