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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)

Alright. I've adjusted the Warning Tracker with information on Monke, Dread, DivineAura, Shmooply, BoastJr, and Arceus, I will put through the ban on DivineAura to get it over with. That about wraps it up, see you guys next controversy.
 
I don't know the reason why but vsbattles keep sending me Email even tho i don't agree to any of the Email options, isn't it cyber harassment ?
 
I don't know the reason why but vsbattles keep sending me Email even tho i don't agree to any of the Email options, isn't it cyber harassment ?
I don't understand why our forum would automatically send you topic notifications if you have genuinely disabled all of your email notification settings. Does anybody else have this problem as well, or is somebody willing to help give this member some useful instruction in this regard please? 🙏
 
Alright. I've adjusted the Warning Tracker with information on Monke, Dread, DivineAura, Shmooply, BoastJr, and Arceus, I will put through the ban on DivineAura to get it over with. That about wraps it up, see you guys next controversy.
Thank you greatly to you, Crabwhale, and everybody else who helped out here. 🙏🙇‍♂️❤️

Given that @DaMonkeMan fell for trolling rage bait, combined with Dread also being who he is, I do not support a long ban for Monke, just for a few weeks perhaps, so if he changes his mind and wants to return to our community, he should feel free to contact me or Bambu (?) via the Community Central Fandom wiki. 🙏
 
I don't understand why our forum would automatically send you topic notifications if you have genuinely disabled all of your email notification settings. Does anybody else have this problem as well, or is somebody willing to help give this member some useful instruction in this regard please? 🙏
Not really the thread for this, but yes pretty sure that's universal.

These have been my settings forever now.

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This is what my inbox for Vs Battles looks like on email:

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This is all from the last few days.

I just always assumed it didn't work, and never thought to say anything about it I guess.
 
Hmm. Maybe we should change the default settings for all members to not receiving email notifications for new discussion thread replies unless this has been specifically manually selected on an individual basis? It would be a major change that requires our staff members to provately discuss the issue first though.

Also, I wrote some instructions for personal user settings here long ago:

 
A user by the name of Tgsf8 made a total of 5 non-approved changes in the Michael Afton page.

I request the changes be reversed and the user be punished however is seen fit.

The changes made the character 10-A instead of 10-Bin anything but the tier section, including speed
 
They appear to have no warnings, and are very new. The changes also aren't exactly egregious or indicative of a troll (broadly just upgrading a normal 10-B guy to a normal 10-A guy). So, I will explain our rules to them and call it square. All changes to the profile may obviously be undone if they haven't already.
 
They appear to have no warnings, and are very new. The changes also aren't exactly egregious or indicative of a troll (broadly just upgrading a normal 10-B guy to a normal 10-A guy). So, I will explain our rules to them and call it square. All changes to the profile may obviously be undone if they haven't already.
Thank you for your service, I will revert the changes when I'm on my PC
 
A user by the name of Tgsf8 made a total of 5 non-approved changes in the Michael Afton page.

I request the changes be reversed and the user be punished however is seen fit.

The changes made the character 10-A instead of 10-Bin anything but the tier section, including speed
This should be here

 
He's right, do try to remember next time. Not a big deal but we separate them to control cluttering this thread.
 
This should be here

He's right, do try to remember next time. Not a big deal but we separate them to control cluttering this thread.
My deepest apologies, I was not aware of that thread.
 
No problem. It is an easy mistake to make. 🙏

Also, @BigSmoke4269 wonders about if his editing restrictions can be adjusted.

 
I already spoke on this 2 months ago. Why wasn't it lifted then.

Ya'll are really making me appear like my PFP-- Yes, he was held to my standards on profile-creation as that evolved. Anything he puts out should be at the minimum standards for what is considered "Decent" or even "Good" to MY standards. AKA, references on anything even kind of major required, scans enjoyed overall.

I will now return to being threadbanned now, since I have one of these bad boys framed on my metaphorical wall.
 
I already spoke on this 2 months ago. Why wasn't it lifted then.
Probably because you mentioned it in private, so I forgot about mentioning it here afterwards. My apologies. 🙏
Ya'll are really making me appear like my PFP-- Yes, he was held to my standards on profile-creation as that evolved. Anything he puts out should be at the minimum standards for what is considered "Decent" or even "Good" to MY standards. AKA, references on anything even kind of major required, scans enjoyed overall.
Okay. It seems good to me if that restriction is lifted then. 🙏
I will now return to being threadbanned now, since I have one of these bad boys framed on my metaphorical wall.
I have handled it. You can contact one of our current super moderators if you want your thread ban lifted again and are able to control your impulsivity in this regard. 🙏
 
Thank you for helping out. 🙏
 
Minor note. I am issuing a warning to @Chariot190 for disruptive behavior in this thread.

Posts here, here, here, here, here, here... and more. Reading through it, other users were cordial until pressed upon by Chariot. Mixed with more recent unnecessarily arguing with myself (beginning here). The most egregious comments were those leveled at Omnificence, I think, such that others even acknowledged they were uncalled for. So, just letting y'all know.
 
Minor note. I am issuing a warning to @Chariot190 for disruptive behavior in this thread.

Posts here, here, here, here, here, here... and more. Reading through it, other users were cordial until pressed upon by Chariot. Mixed with more recent unnecessarily arguing with myself (beginning here). The most egregious comments were those leveled at Omnificence, I think, such that others even acknowledged they were uncalled for. So, just letting y'all know.
This kinda cherrypicks some comments out such as the one with Omnificence where Chariot is responding to him asking Chariot why is he even on the wiki or the fact that most of those comments you pulled were from a portion where Chariot was arguing against a circular arguments from like 4 other people for like 4 pages straight trying to explain how the use of game mechanics to justify upgrades was wrong. Yeah he was frustrated over arguing something so blatantly wrong being done over 4 pages but he's not being overtly disrespectful or anything or the sort. So he swears when he talks? I do to all the time on the wiki its like how normal people talk irl. I do feel this to be overblown a bit especially considering @CloverDragon03 also called you out too in the thread for your behavior as well


Both of you should just leave it at that and let staff review the CRT normally
 
This kinda cherrypicks some comments out such as the one with Omnificence where Chariot is responding to him asking Chariot why is he even on the wiki or the fact that most of those comments you pulled were from a portion where Chariot was arguing against a circular arguments from like 4 other people for like 4 pages straight trying to explain how the use of game mechanics to justify upgrades was wrong. Yeah he was frustrated over arguing something so blatantly wrong being done over 4 pages but he's not being overtly disrespectful or anything or the sort. So he swears when he talks? I do to all the time on the wiki its like how normal people talk irl. I do feel this to be overblown a bit especially considering @CloverDragon03 also called you out too in the thread for your behavior as well


Both of you should just leave it at that and let staff review the CRT normally
Yep. Other people should be kind as well. Chariot arguing for multiple pages doesn't really justify his comments, and many users were not engaging in the same rhetoric against him (Imaginym is one of the most consistently calm and mild-mannered people on this site, even). He is being overly disrespectful, and how you talk is not really comparable to him, even if you feel it is.

This isn't about reviewing the CRT, shouldn't be made out to be such. This is about breaking the rules since last month. Your defense of Chariot is duly noted, however.
 
I'm having issues with StrymULTRA's attitude in this thread: https://vsbattles.com/threads/smash-bros-immeasurable-speed-revision.175466/

https://vsbattles.com/threads/smash-bros-immeasurable-speed-revision.175466/#post-6912514 He first replies "You saying that because you don't want it to be Immeasurable isn't an argument." to a comment with arguments in them. And calls my attempt to use consistency as 1 of the reasons to disagree with him "the most dishonest argument by you," w/o saying what would be dishonest about the rest of what I said.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/smash-bros-immeasurable-speed-revision.175466/#post-6913088 I point out the faults in his attitude and he's either apathetic or bites back. He claims that I attempt to downplay with my comments, but I have arguments he's yet to reply to to this moment. I point out how he uses whataboutism and he replies "Don't call it that if you can't counter it. Oh wait, I remember you trying to refute DBH being Immeasurable too in the past and that was rejected, mh." He replies to something I say with "This is just your warped definition of people debunking you, but whatever makes you chill." but doesn't say how I have that warped definition beyond just disagreeing with me.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/smash-bros-immeasurable-speed-revision.175466/#post-6913223 I point out the faults in his attitude and he's apathetic.

https://vsbattles.com/threads/smash-bros-immeasurable-speed-revision.175466/#post-6913978 I point out how he was apathetic & gave a non-response in a section of the comment above, he replies "You talk as if I'm objectively wrong. I'm not falling for this bullshit, Efi, instead of whining just focus on the argument rather than using gaslighting tactics in an attempt to trick me in changing my mind. I'm not replying to any more points that aren't about the feat, because it's getting ridiculous." He doesn't back up how I'm wrong and using gaslighting tactics, and doesn't reply to the rest my issues I had with his attitude.

I can't possibly follow this in the thread, could somebody care to look at it, talk with him elsewhere, and make sure he understands what the issues are?
 
I agree with Bambu regarding Chariot's behavior on that thread; he has acted like that in nearly every debate her enters for a long time. And it was why the HR decided to demote him. And there we even almost considered giving him a short ban for that time he literally harassed me in DMs. But it seems demoting him hasn't really settled down his less than stellar behavior. But perhaps more higher up staff may need input regarding that.

As for the Styrm report, while I'm not really saying he's the most civilized user, Eficiente really isn't behaving that much better tbh; some of his responses to Styrm were moderately pompous.
 
Posts here, here, here, here, here, here... and more. Reading through it, other users were cordial until pressed upon by Chariot. Mixed with more recent unnecessarily arguing with myself (beginning here). The most egregious comments were those leveled at Omnificence, I think, such that others even acknowledged they were uncalled for. So, just letting y'all know.
For the record, having read through this thread, I endorse this warning. Though I believe it would be productive to specify further the main issues I observed here, especially so because he was reported and demoted for similar issues in the past. I believe that any future discussion of this should be built on the knowledge that specific direction has been given in this case.

I can't speak on Bambu's behalf as to what they thought the substance of the report was, but my concern was predominantly with these issues: the repeated targeted and accusatory comments made against particular users, most notably towards Omnificence, Eden_Warlock99, and Imaginym, were very much disproportionate to any trigger that may have incited them in the discussion of the thread itself. Questioning whether there are ulterior motives in a debate partner is one thing - perhaps it was phrased impolitely, but Chariot frequently noting things like, for example, that he believed he was being strawmanned or that his opponents were incredulous is not something I can strictly speak against him for in isolation - but the comments Chariot made throughout this thread routinely derailed off of the main point to make a jab at the individual behind them without necessity. For a select few examples:

This is super desperate grasping, like actual cope arguments at this point, you know damn well what they mean, let's not pretend otherwise.
Because it's so obvious that the fact you're even arguing this is legitimate baffling to me?
I hate this so much.... Why are you ignoring the entire premise of the game and absolutely everything they say?
Because of people like you apparently.
Not an argument, you think Wario sat on his ass for half an hour? When he was literally there?
Being a funny color name doesn't give you free reign to yap against majority.

I consider these statements especially egregious in the context for a couple of reasons: one, the statements against Imaginym in particular were clearly not triggered by anything substantial. Imaginym, despite disagreeing, made many efforts throughout the thread to express that he was not intending to offend Chariot and offered almost entirely decent expressions of disagreement; Chariot's comments were unquestionably the instigator of conflict there, and there is no reason to think anything wrong would have happened if it were not for the hostility of his input. Secondly, while Chariot making certain comments against the intentions of the other users are contentious to report in isolation (in the sense of, where is the line drawn between an earnest concern about ulterior motives versus an attempt to redirect the argument to someone's character?), it's marked that Chariot was intent on expressing that he thought other's accusatory comments against him were inappropriate:

Though to call me dishonest isn't arguing in good faith though, I pray I don't need to call you out on that. Where calling me dishonest is a blatant accusation, one that doesn't even hold up.
I don't care if you don't think it isn't condescending, I'm sure we both know it doesn't matter what one's self thinks in regards to how they talk, word stuff, yadda yadda, I'm telling you don't. Don't like it.

Despite these issues being of very similar nature to the accusations he expressed to others throughout the thread. These comments by Bambu were sometimes impolite, and it's possible they could have been written due to resentment towards Chariot - but the core issue would still remain. Consistently, I did not believe reading through this thread that Chariot was holding himself to the same standards of conduct as other people; I believed that he was aggressive and demeaning and repeatedly turned the matter on the characters of the individuals in question, while insisting that others were wrong for doing a portion of the same to him. Even recognising that I would have wanted Bambu to phrase some things differently, I think this was indicative of a lapse of good will debating on the part of Chariot.

@Chariot190 I'm bringing this matter to you personally, because you are aware that you have been reported for similar conduct in the past and demoted because of it. The understanding was that a demotion was a noteworthy enough punishment that future discussions would not result in these issues, and that hasn't happened. This is about the same type of issue that you were demoted for previously, and I largely knew that this would occur, because I am aware you expressed to others you didn't take your reasons for your demotion seriously. I am fine with leaving this as a warning, because all I want out of this situation is future improvements; for you and others to be able to partake in this community in a civil manner and for that to be all she wrote. But I would like to be clear that I'm not happy to see that this matter has been brought up again, and that I would consider advocating for further action if this continued. In the inverse, if you have issues with the conduct of other users, you can always bring them through the relevant channels and I would make an effort to see them evaluated impartially.
 
This kinda cherrypicks some comments out such as the one with Omnificence where Chariot is responding to him asking Chariot why is he even on the wiki or the fact that most of those comments you pulled were from a portion where Chariot was arguing against a circular arguments from like 4 other people for like 4 pages straight trying to explain how the use of game mechanics to justify upgrades was wrong. Yeah he was frustrated over arguing something so blatantly wrong being done over 4 pages but he's not being overtly disrespectful or anything or the sort. So he swears when he talks? I do to all the time on the wiki its like how normal people talk irl. I do feel this to be overblown a bit especially considering @CloverDragon03 also called you out too in the thread for your behavior as well


Both of you should just leave it at that and let staff review the CRT normally
Since I was mentioned, I should mention that I still think Bambu wasn't exactly playing nice either which kinda turns this into a case of "not even practicing what you preach" for me. But I suppose that's not necessarily for this thread
 
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