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Never mind. Bambu already handled it.Has this been handled yet?
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Rule Violation Reports (New forum)
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Hello.
This is an announcement from the HR group regarding recent private discussions.
We have decided to demote Eficiente in the advent of numerous reports of unproductive and hostile conduct towards users and other staff members. Specifically, these reports have demonstrated consistent issues with insulting other users' competence, knowledge, motives, and level of attention, which have not ceased or led to acknowledgement of the problem with such behaviour, despite multiple warnings regarding these issues.
Further discussion on this topic is not permitted.
That will be all.
This is an announcement from the HR group regarding recent private discussions.
We have decided to demote Eficiente in the advent of numerous reports of unproductive and hostile conduct towards users and other staff members. Specifically, these reports have demonstrated consistent issues with insulting other users' competence, knowledge, motives, and level of attention, which have not ceased or led to acknowledgement of the problem with such behaviour, despite multiple warnings regarding these issues.
Further discussion on this topic is not permitted.
That will be all.
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@Eficiente We can discuss the matter in private. You're free to offer your thoughts and questions, but in line with my previous comment, that discussion will not be held here and so I will delete your comment.
Pepsimanslover
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Can someone ban @ImmortalDread this freak off the site for his behavior of the past and on the unpopular opinions thread?
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If you're going to report someone on this thread, then link to the rule-breaking posts or behaviour, because otherwise you're just spamming the thread with complaints.
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To actually address something that might be breaking the rules, @DaMonkeMan's comment here looks a lot like wishing death on another user of the forum.
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me too bro, I didn't wish death but I've released most of my pent up anger on the mf. If we go down we go down together.
Now as for the actual reason we wanted to talk about Dread is that the only reason he came back is specifically to ragebait. Sure we took it hook line n sinker but that's still a banned member coming back to gloat and spread drama.
-Here's him supporting others sending memes of him and about him, even if they are topic banned memes
-Here's another example
-Here's more
So a member banned for impersonation, who emotionally manipulated and lied to an innocent man for 6 month and lied to this entire community about their gender for whatever reason comes back and the first thing they do is start baiting people into drama.
Idk how you people thought 1 year was enough for that kind of bullsh!t but it clearly wasn't enough.
They didn't come here to be productive, they came here to bait.
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Okay, I understand, but you can't stand in solidarity on rule-breaking like this and expect to get treated the same without actually breaking any rules. My report is just for DaMonkeMan's comment currently - not for anyone else unless they've posted similar comments.
As for ImmortalDread, I'll go through the linked posts and rest of the thread.
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This isn't the thread to argue about it on; if you want staff to take these reports seriously then you've got to wait for them to be addressed instead of arguing back-and-forth with each other.
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Unpopular Opinions and (Friendly) Rant thread
Wait, english ships are female? So azur lane and kantai collection were right all along... Yeah, i didn't realize up until now Like now it can even recognize when a word is a name and shouldn't be translated because it starts capitalized in the middle of a sentence I mean, I could be...
Looking over the conversation, there's some rule breaking comments, but Dread was also clearly ragebaiting throughout the incident by posting provocative memes and adding fuel to the fire.
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I already explained in the thread, but my intent is not to call for the death of you or anyone; the sanctity of life is something I hold most dear to me. My actual intention was to call out your hypocrisy of proclaiming that you "love Jesus" in an earlier message and yet, your past actions and lack of remorse showcase as being evidently not true.
Another death threat implication. Yall dawg need to behave and respect Christian femboys.
However, I say that it wasn't the best verse nor the best way to illustrate the point, and that, along with making you seemingly feel hurt and disturbed, I sincerely apologize for, especially when you were already being bombarded with messages of people calling for your death and harm. It was inappropriate, and uncalled for.
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Alright, let's get the main thing out of the way before we tackle the side dishes.
I don't think the user ImmortalDread should be allowed to remain on-site.
The reason isn't so much what he's done since coming back as what is represented by the messages he's sending now. We give non-permanent bans, even very long ones, to users on the basis that if they ever come back, the time span will have been sufficient for them have improved their conduct. At least, that's always been my understanding and application of the concept.
By coming back and immediately going on a several page long bait tirade in that thread, Dread has demonstrated not only no positive change but has actively regressed in his on-site conduct. Quite frankly, with the way he's acting, he's no different to me than any other troll account, and we have never really showed any lenience towards those.
And all of that is not factoring in his off-site conduct, which has left most users who've interacted with him extremely uncomfortable and upset.
I am strongly advocating a permanent ban this time.
I don't think the user ImmortalDread should be allowed to remain on-site.
The reason isn't so much what he's done since coming back as what is represented by the messages he's sending now. We give non-permanent bans, even very long ones, to users on the basis that if they ever come back, the time span will have been sufficient for them have improved their conduct. At least, that's always been my understanding and application of the concept.
By coming back and immediately going on a several page long bait tirade in that thread, Dread has demonstrated not only no positive change but has actively regressed in his on-site conduct. Quite frankly, with the way he's acting, he's no different to me than any other troll account, and we have never really showed any lenience towards those.
And all of that is not factoring in his off-site conduct, which has left most users who've interacted with him extremely uncomfortable and upset.
I am strongly advocating a permanent ban this time.
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I'll state my opinion publicly.
I will begin by saying that the circumstances before us are particularly egregious and unusual. I was not on this wiki during its most tumultuous times (having been banned for the ass end of that age), so I cannot speak to its entire history- but I have never seen a user generate such a miasma of hatred around them in my time here. This itself is not a rule violation; however, that Dread appears intent on instigating these acts of hatred means we have what I would call legitimate and altogether reasonable grounds to issue a major rule violation. It is little different than harassment, only on a large scale.
As I'm typing this I see Crab's message posted above me- I would agree with his conclusion that Dread ought to be permanently banned. Dread probably should have been permanently banned to begin with, but mistakes can be made, and the bureaucracy can obfuscate what must be done. Dread is little more than a troll at this point, and within a day of returning to the site has solely stirred the pot. We have nothing to gain by his presence.
As for the other users involved. Broadly speaking, I am in favor of some amount of clemency for those who verbally abused Dread, given the extraordinary circumstances- they were goaded and manipulated into doing it, and mystifyingly enough, they were goaded by none other than the apparent "victim"; thus it seems to me difficult to suggest as heavy punishments as they might otherwise receive. It is my opinion that anyone partaking in that thread who did not issue threats or wishes for harm or death may be appropriately considered innocent.
These more extreme actions ought to be more carefully considered, especially acknowledging that several of those doing them did so recognizing that they were consciously breaking the rules- the defense of manipulation or ragebaiting is harder to argue when one can take a step back and realize such things. The users in particular are as follows:
It's worth noting Arceus0x is a borderline case (here, here) but I wouldn't take him as doing anything worthy of a ban. Da3ggman also referenced the death of Dread (here) but clarified the mention of death wasn't the intent (take it with what grains of salt you want). I would consider everything else water under the bridge. My suggestions are as follows:
I will begin by saying that the circumstances before us are particularly egregious and unusual. I was not on this wiki during its most tumultuous times (having been banned for the ass end of that age), so I cannot speak to its entire history- but I have never seen a user generate such a miasma of hatred around them in my time here. This itself is not a rule violation; however, that Dread appears intent on instigating these acts of hatred means we have what I would call legitimate and altogether reasonable grounds to issue a major rule violation. It is little different than harassment, only on a large scale.
As I'm typing this I see Crab's message posted above me- I would agree with his conclusion that Dread ought to be permanently banned. Dread probably should have been permanently banned to begin with, but mistakes can be made, and the bureaucracy can obfuscate what must be done. Dread is little more than a troll at this point, and within a day of returning to the site has solely stirred the pot. We have nothing to gain by his presence.
As for the other users involved. Broadly speaking, I am in favor of some amount of clemency for those who verbally abused Dread, given the extraordinary circumstances- they were goaded and manipulated into doing it, and mystifyingly enough, they were goaded by none other than the apparent "victim"; thus it seems to me difficult to suggest as heavy punishments as they might otherwise receive. It is my opinion that anyone partaking in that thread who did not issue threats or wishes for harm or death may be appropriately considered innocent.
These more extreme actions ought to be more carefully considered, especially acknowledging that several of those doing them did so recognizing that they were consciously breaking the rules- the defense of manipulation or ragebaiting is harder to argue when one can take a step back and realize such things. The users in particular are as follows:
It's worth noting Arceus0x is a borderline case (here, here) but I wouldn't take him as doing anything worthy of a ban. Da3ggman also referenced the death of Dread (here) but clarified the mention of death wasn't the intent (take it with what grains of salt you want). I would consider everything else water under the bridge. My suggestions are as follows:
- Informal warnings for all participating in this stunt. Dread is an unusual case- clemency will not be the norm in the future.
- Formal warning for @Arceus0x. Even taking the above aside, he contributed to the atmosphere more than most- including the above makes it worthy of particular rebuking, in my opinion.
- A ban for @DaMonkeMan. He claimed he wanted to be banned anyways, I'm not sure whether he stands by that or whether he wants it to be permanent, but regardless, much of the non-Dread side of this situation arose from him, and practically all of the explicit death threats were made by him. It crosses a line one can no longer reasonably ignore. @DivineAura44 mentioned support for him, shown above, and so I would recommend a shorter ban. I'll wait to hear from others before discussing formal time suggestions.
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Mr. Bambu
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I considered adding BoastJr's to the report, however given that prior to his ban, Dread did appear to suggest inappropriate things in private circles, I'm less inclined to punish people for accusing him of those things. Their actions are inappropriate for public banter, but not actually unwarranted- one just wishes they'd let it be handled cleanly.
Still, if that's your recommendation, I'll sign off on warnings for those three (although Shmooply in particular seems comparatively trivial).
Still, if that's your recommendation, I'll sign off on warnings for those three (although Shmooply in particular seems comparatively trivial).
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I see no problem with the sentiments shared by the staff here today, I accept the ban length they see fit.
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I agree with just about everything Mr Bambu has said as well.
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I agree with Mr. Bambu's assessment too.
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I don't care either way but I'd prefer a permanent one
I generally just didn't care for this site anymore anyway and I don't see my self coming back to it, even before this Dread stuff I didn't see my self returning after a while. So go ahead and make it permanent. Bye.
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With MonkeMan committing to a permanent ban, that leaves us with DivineAura. Relatively light actions all throughout, I wouldn't recommend anything more than a two week ban given the circumstances.
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I'd also support no higher than 2 weeks for DivineAura.
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Alright. I've adjusted the Warning Tracker with information on Monke, Dread, DivineAura, Shmooply, BoastJr, and Arceus, I will put through the ban on DivineAura to get it over with. That about wraps it up, see you guys next controversy.
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I don't know the reason why but vsbattles keep sending me Email even tho i don't agree to any of the Email options, isn't it cyber harassment ?
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I don't understand why our forum would automatically send you topic notifications if you have genuinely disabled all of your email notification settings. Does anybody else have this problem as well, or is somebody willing to help give this member some useful instruction in this regard please?
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Thank you greatly to you, Crabwhale, and everybody else who helped out here.
Given that @DaMonkeMan fell for trolling rage bait, combined with Dread also being who he is, I do not support a long ban for Monke, just for a few weeks perhaps, so if he changes his mind and wants to return to our community, he should feel free to contact me or Bambu (?) via the Community Central Fandom wiki.
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Not really the thread for this, but yes pretty sure that's universal.I don't understand why our forum would automatically send you topic notifications if you have genuinely disabled all of your email notification settings. Does anybody else have this problem as well, or is somebody willing to help give this member some useful instruction in this regard please?
These have been my settings forever now.
This is what my inbox for Vs Battles looks like on email:
This is all from the last few days.
I just always assumed it didn't work, and never thought to say anything about it I guess.
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Thank you greatly for the information. I will immediately inform our forum system manager about this problem. It is likely related to our upcoming major XenForo system update.
Hasty12345
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I think if you comment on a thread the default is to receive email notifications when someone comments on it.
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Hmm. Maybe we should change the default settings for all members to not receiving email notifications for new discussion thread replies unless this has been specifically manually selected on an individual basis? It would be a major change that requires our staff members to provately discuss the issue first though.
Also, I wrote some instructions for personal user settings here long ago:
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Hasty12345
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I won’t clog up the thread anymore, but for the sake of those who don’t know. If you watch a thread using the “watch” option and instead of a comment, there is a choice to not receive email notifications upon other users commenting on the thread.
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The default option for me is to not receive email notifications, curiously enough.
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A user by the name of Tgsf8 made a total of 5 non-approved changes in the Michael Afton page.
I request the changes be reversed and the user be punished however is seen fit.
The changes made the character 10-A instead of 10-Bin anything but the tier section, including speed
I request the changes be reversed and the user be punished however is seen fit.
The changes made the character 10-A instead of 10-Bin anything but the tier section, including speed
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They appear to have no warnings, and are very new. The changes also aren't exactly egregious or indicative of a troll (broadly just upgrading a normal 10-B guy to a normal 10-A guy). So, I will explain our rules to them and call it square. All changes to the profile may obviously be undone if they haven't already.
Perequeliri993
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Thank you for your service, I will revert the changes when I'm on my PC
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This should be here
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