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Well Regi's ban is kind of questionable on whether it was evaluated properly (not whether he deserved it more just how we analysed the situation) so I am hesitant to use that as justification for another band.
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To double clarify, there were three RVT reports total. One for his behaviour during the Discord server ban thread last year, a report after that where Matt said Regis had been reported "a dozen times" beforehand, and one more report considered the final warning.Andytrenom said:To clarify, before the ban Regis got a report and afaik multiple rule breaks and reports were the reasonings for why the decision came to giving Regis a final warning.
However later Agnaa found out that he hadn't been reported as many times as it appeared and I believe he only had one report before the the one that led to his final warning
Can we not go the "the guy was in trouble before so let's make any disagreeable action he takes unacceptable from now on" route Yes prior history is important but let's not focus solely on that and ignore all other context. |
125% AgreeDargoo Faust said:That said, how much a user contributes to the site should not determine whether or not they are subject to a punishment. I've seen this argument thrown around a lot and it doesn't sit well with me.
Honestly speaking, I believe Regi made a lot Appeal to motive Fallacy towards WeeklyBattles and a [https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2904278#217 Red-herring for points he disagree. I don't believe that we ban people if they made Fallicous points. I don't think that he broke these Site Rules:Matthew Schroeder said:I don't get how you could say that Regis isn't toxic with a straight face.
In the interest of moving things along (and not in the interest of putting words in people's mouths), considering Dargoo's said things likeSpinosaurus75DinosaurFan said:How is this time any different from past reports about Regis? If he has been toxic before and did not shape up, why shouldn't he be banned?
Nor do I think Regis is a particularly toxic user despite being vocal about issues with the site and making some blunt accusations such as someone being dishonest. |
Yobo Blue said:Well you see, the face on his profile is just a picture
Some people just have a different standard of toxicity.
They're not immune to reports and criticism, many staff members have been demoted/banned before, but there is a higher tolerance. The same way there's a lower tolerance for perfectly new users.SchroKatze said:And Ant... Saying that the staff should be "immune to reports and criticism" because they are "stressed" and did something for the wiki is basically the same as saying that a corrupt politician should stay because he "did something".
KuuIchigo notably got banned for minor infractions, albeit after he retired from admin, but still, that is a case where minor infractions and ignoring warnings built up over a while to get a contributing member banned.SchroKatze said:The higher tolerance seems to be limitless tho. I can recall a few cases of staff being demoted (Discord Group is a special case). One of which needed Fandom to come and do it, and even then the ex-staff member still holds influence here via people talking for them.
Weekly has been causing trouble for as long as Regis is being accused, yet Weekly got warnings that didn't have any weight to it.