Based on what? Nothing says that Majin Buu doesn't have a lifespan. He may not have changed, but neither did the kais or gods of destruction and we don't give them Immortality based on that. Only the Angels were stated to not have lifespans, meaning that they never naturally die
Unsuppressed =/= full power. And if you argue it is his full power, then show proof since right now you showed none. It's your CRT to prove why they don't scale so it's on you to provide evidence and scans for your claims. You argue it's full power? Alright, bring scans and then we'll talk
Do you have any proof for your side?
Oh my bad massively hypersonic+ right?
they have MFTL+ flight speed in the atmosphere though, as in kid buu ki blast example. Mate drag ? What?
No you didn't you yourself showed nothing regarding that scans, you explained nothing and refuse to debate. Again, this is what you call debating? If you can't explain a single point, like how you argue that unsuppressed must mean full power when you showed nothing that Krillin in this exact scan used his full power and just keep shifting the burden of proof away so you wouldn't need to explain anything, then your opinion doesn't hold, and staff or not staff, this argument doesn't work
I mean, you're not exactly debating in good faith unlike some of the other users in this thread.
Akira has stated that Majin Buu has lived since the birth of the universe. Dude is legitimately immortal. He can't die from old age.
But that's the thing. You said about a specific scan which is this one that Krillin used his full power. I asked you on what you based that on and from this point onward all you did is explain nothing and shift the burden of proof, even though you were the one claiming this.
I didn't provide that scan. Qaws did.
How is that a proof? It only means he lived for that long, not that he will continue to live forver, and you seem to ignore my other points regarding the kais. You also linked no scan to support what you say or a scan that says he can live forever
You seriously use real world physics and apply that to a verse with people flying with no wings, FTL attacks and explosions that destroys universes?Drag (physics) - Wikipedia
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So this doesn't apply. Krillin was still not using his full power so you can't use that as an example of their speed only being this fast
Well, I don't agree with you on that. A character does not have to only have showing of their maximum power to get a rating on the wiki.
You're focusing on the wrong feats. I'm not using the ones where they were deliberately suppressing themselves. I'm using the ones where they weren't.
What are you trying to say in the CRT is that people such as Krillin can only go so that fast, when that is simply not the case as not only these speeds were far surpassed already in Dragon Ball with Tao Pai Pai and Goku, but also that this isn't even Krillin's top speed
What I'm trying to argue is that their flight speed isn't directly equal to their combat speed.
What? How does that prove he's immortal?
Here you go
So yes, he's immortal. Cell is also immortal, he said as much to Gohan.
Because he qualifies for and is rated with Type 1 immortality. Which means he can't die from old age.
Considering all of those things have been noted to effect them, like air getting into people's eyes and guidebook statement from before, yes.
That's textbook Type 1 Immortality
That link doesn't work.
So, he's immortal because he qualifies... somehow?
Type 1 immortality dictates that you can't die from old age. That's literally how it is for Buu
But the scan doesn't even say that. It just says he exsited since time immemorial and that's it. It proves nothing
Please, show me a single scan that says Buu can't die from old age.
It kinda did since you argue that it's not equal because they went slow in one scene when they didn't even use full power
Buu has existed since "time immemorial" as stated in a previous scan, and has still not died
I'm not sure how you both aren't getting it. But to go over it.
Majin Buu has existed for billions of years (if not more) and doesn't age or show signs of aging.
What??. Oh c'mom just because he look young doesn't mean he don't age, please this argument is really bad in logic, he isn't human, or saiyan which similar to human so we don't know he actually age or not. By your logic Beerus also Immortality 1 due to......well.............didn't show to aging
Yeah, but Cell wasn't suppressing himself down to nothing when he was fighting Goku.
You know this is just an extreme case of longevity right? The fact he exists for billions of years doesn't mean he'll never die. If his life expectancy is say, a trillion years then 13 billion years is nothing in comparison. Hell, take example from actual stars in the universe. Some Red Dwarfs exist since pretty much the big bang and shows no sign of aging, but we know they won't shine forever and will eventually die after trillions of years
But... that's just Longevity
The act of flying already tasks a lot of ki to maintain, so while flying they risk the chance to be detected much more than if they were running on foot
Exactly. Longevity exists for a reason
You would need to provide counter evidence that he can die from old age then.
Sorry about that. I was just using it as a justification. But we're derailing and I won't talk about it anymore.
I don't need to prove a negative. Besides, even in Buu's powers and abilities there's no proof for type 1 immortality. It was just added for no reason other than because whoever added it felt it should be there
Oh I will. Given what you showed doesn't even proved anything except that Buu have longevity this would be simple
