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Regarding non-canonical elements in SF and E. Honda's feat

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Sera EX said:
Evil Ryu shouldn't exist at all (same for guys like Oni). Ryu under the influence of the Satsui no Hadou (i.e. how he gave Sagat his scar) should not be a separate key, but more so an extension of his already existent keys similar to Goku's Kaio-ken.
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Is somebody willing to apply this?
 
i'm indifferent to taking away ryu's evil ryu key but akuma's oni key should stay oni is akuma completely consumed by the satsui no hado and has far superior feats to base akuma his key should stay.
 
Okay. Couldn't we move it to a separate profile though?
 
oni IS akuma just completely berserk so i don't see a point in creating a different profile for the same character but with a power up.
 
no(as of rn) he is not canonical but a theorectial future version of akuma, i don't see how that matters though since we have a tier for a non-canonical fully formed Cluster
 
We should try to keep canon and non-canon statistics separate, and several wrongs do not make a right.
 
wouldn't the non canon oni form akuma takes currently being a key for him count as seperate? or do we have to create a profile for oni?
 
I think that a separate profile seems better.
 
bump.

should i create a continuation thread of this one considering we're almost at 400 posts?
 
Anyway we agreed that Oni and Evil Ryu/Kage get separate profiles then

Also calcs for Ryu body used to power the satellite that blew a city and the speed of the laser to which Bison is able to perceive and move at comparable speeds as well need are needed for exact numbers for these ratings
 
Now what is left is the Evil Ryu/Kage profile, and Bison to get resistance to poison manipulation from F.A.N.G., but one more thing to point out, his poison shown to turn someone to dust, whats that treated as?
 
1) I think that the accepted calculation results can probably be used then.

2) Probably Deconstruction.
 
Ok Ryu, M. Bison and Akuma profiles are locked, they are the only ones that need the profiles updated

Also another thing for M. Bison, he can make portals to travel and attack from as seen in Juri story mode in SF4 and in SF5 main story, would like to add that too on him
 
Didn't we also need to add "6-C (or higher, i don't know what the actual calc is going to be) with tech" to Gill's profile due to Necro's ending in Second Impact?
 
Twellas said:
Didn't we also need to add "6-C (or higher, i don't know what the actual calc is going to be) with tech" to Gill's profile due to Necro's ending in Second Impact?
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When there is the calc for it you can add it, Gill profile isnt locked from what i saw
 
i was wondering, what happens if Gill's sea parting feat ends up being island level? At that point we would have 3 tier 6 feats, 2 of which are from high tiers of the verse, could they be taken into account and upgrade the verse?
 
We have talked about that feat before buddy, the Moses sea splitting feat isnt island, it has similar results to Akuma feats, i seen two calcs for it done before, none are island

E Honda isnt a high tier, he is way weaker then the likes of Chun Li and Ryu, which are like high tier, respectively top tier
 
So what is left to do here?
 
tabs for evil ryu/kage and oni and then we'll probably be done here since we're just waiting for the canon page revision thread.
 
Okay. It seems better to keep the non-canon versions in separate pages though. Would anybody here be willing to apply that?
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
We have talked about that feat before buddy, the Moses sea splitting feat isnt island, it has similar results to Akuma feats, i seen two calcs for it done before, none are island
E Honda isnt a high tier, he is way weaker then the likes of Chun Li and Ryu, which are like high tier, respectively top tier
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Again mate, SIMILAR feats, calculated in a DIFFERENT wiki, you don't know that Gill's feat is not above Akuma's.

And i was talking about Oni's feat, not Honda's when talking about high tiers
 
We are going to split off Evil Ryu's and Oni's profiles into separate pages, due to being non-canon.
 
Twellas said:
Again mate, SIMILAR feats, calculated in a DIFFERENT wiki, you don't know that Gill's feat is not above Akuma's.

And i was talking about Oni's feat, not Honda's when talking about high tiers
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1)what does it matter if its in a different wiki, that wiki has about half of the ones we have on this one, its not changing anything, splitting the sea like Moses from Gill isnt gonna reach mountain or island level at all, its gonna have around the same results as Akuma two feats

2)Oni feat was rejected and even if his feat is mountain or higher, nobody scales to that besides him, since Oni is the strongest character in SF (Ingrid said she needs 30 minutes to beat Bison if anyone wanna bring her up as a counter), also Oni is a god tier
 
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