• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.
Go to the one punch man discussion thread to argue God tiering, I am just going by memory from the last chapters, the 1 ninja dude with God's power could like slice through infinite universes, and God was stated a while back to be higher dimensional in comparison to everything.

Regardless Satella isn't that powerful currently.
 
Go to the one punch man discussion thread to argue God tiering, I am just going by memory from the last chapters, the 1 ninja dude with God's power could like slice through infinite universes, and God was stated a while back to be higher dimensional in comparison to everything.

Regardless Satella isn't that powerful currently.
Voids attack was him attacking a universe from outside, basically universal range spatial manipulation
it was confirmed that there were infinite universes which would be tier 2A but that still isnt 5D afaik
 
Odd question I know. Do you think that God from One Punch Man can interfere with Subaru's RBD or even replace Satella?
God from OPM is likely 5-Dimensional. At the very least 4-Dimensional. And based on what we've seen from his avatars, he would have space-time manipulation at a very high level and stuff like that.

He'd definitely be able to interfere with RBD. Garou (God's avatar) could potentially learn the true extent of what he was given from God, which is Time Travel.

Also, God's location exist between countless parallel universes branching from parts of a timeline.

Subaru's RbD wouldn't really be much use against that...
 
image.png
 
Genuinely wondering if his final rant will be like 5 minutes lol. That was long in the LN.

Btw found a good video on Subaru, 3 hours long, and this is just anime content up to season 2....

 
Priscilla showed some insane aura in her No Mercy ZERO entry, even as a kid.
Miles: […As for you Priscilla-sama, I’m relieved you haven’t changed. This is a bandit’s fortress. I was worried about whether or not they were on the verge of raping you.]

Priscilla: [Hmph. I suppose it is only natural that after witnessing mine beauty, one would indulge in obscene delusions.]

When Miles was about to fire back at Priscilla’s sarcasm, the young crimson beauty gave a cold smile, and patched on a “However” to her words while glancing towards the collapsed bandit’s corpse in the room.

Priscilla: [In the end, it exists not within the realm of possibility. The reason I was among these fools is because the leader of this place is mineself.]

Balleroy: [Hahaha, that’s quite the amusing joke now… It’s a joke, right?]

Balleroy laughed at the sudden confession, but Priscilla had no intentions of telling that as a joke. Naturally, the pair’s gazes faced towards the collapsed man, and the reason for Priscilla’s safety became coherent.

These bandits too, were hit by Priscilla’s transcendental aura, and were unable to deal with her violently, so she was welcomed in as a member of the fortress. But, that peacefulness was ripped apart by the uninvited guests of Miles and Balleroy――
 
Capella is so nice!
Mother quietly stuck her hand out towards her foolish Son who’d failed to accomplish his duty. Reisel’s consciousness transformed the instant she’d seized his forehead with her small palm.

─No, what transformed wasn’t his consciousness. It was his very being. His arms and legs were taken away from him, and his body transformed with a crunch. Broken, flattened, regenerated, and remade anew; his brain and his organs were all churned about.

Reisel: [Abu, abubu, abubububububu]

Mother: [Aaaah, I’d been looking forward to increasing my collection, but I never thought I’d be parting with both my artifact and my son; oh what a disaster for me! Such a tragic woman!]

He could hear Mother’s voice. He could still hear it? His ears and his eyes had disappeared, he no longer had the form of a living creature, and yet, he still had his consciousness, he still was himself… himself, what was the meaning of that? The meaning of thinking, a head to think, thinking… what did those even mean, what did it mean, what did it mean─?

Mother: [KYAHAHA! ******* piece of shit! All of you, DIE!!]

He could hear Mother bellowing that out as she laughed loudly.

Mother’s laughing, so that means she’s happy, thus I have to be happy too.

As his brain was being twisted into those thoughts, Reisel─ The thing that was Reisel was obediently and diligently pruned.

Mother: [One of these days, one of these days, I will definitely get my hands on you. ─Isn’t that right, legacy of the Witch.]

─He was pruned.
 
The 3 original chapters from the LN version of Re:Zero kara Kasaneru Isekai Sekatsu, commonly called Greed IF, have now been translated. The fourth and final chapter– which is yet to be translated– is an adaptation of the original WN chapter Greed IF.

It has lots of interesting new information about characters, the lore, powers, and is generally very well-written. It blows the WN IF chapters out of the water.
 
I like the former in the sense that it makes the top tiers very high ratings make more sense
Carrying on from this, I realized that the Extraordinary Genius characters have the ridiculous feats from Theresia and Cecilus to scale to, kind of like an "insert here" list of feats to add after their own feats are explained, helping justify the rating.

But the Genius level characters don't really have an "insert here" of their own, so I made one based on Elsa's feats since hers are really good.

[Their] skills [are equal to/surpass those of] Elsa's, who despite having her senses cut off by Shamak, managed to accurately aim at her target's vitals and avoid an attack that blew away the entire room she was in, by following her intuition. Elsa's intuition also directed her to chase a fleeing carriage rather than follow her orders, which led her to locating her true target. Her supreme skill means her footwork can leave the snow beneath her boots uncrushed, she can dodge countless attacks in a confined space, and avoid or counter any attack she has already seen, even if it is performed in great numbers. Elsa's incredible combat instincts even allow her to dodge attacks too fast for her to perceive, and analyze how to overcome the fighting style of others in the middle of combat. She can anticipate incoming attacks, and weave through multiple coordinated beyond-supersonic whips, where even being grazed meant serious injury, by practically ignoring the concepts of floors, walls, or ceilings, all without using her arms.
 
Last edited:
Carrying on from this, I realized that the Extraordinary Genius characters have the ridiculous feats from Theresia and Cecilus to scale to, kind of like an "insert here" list of feats to add after their own feats are explained, helping justify the rating.

But the Genius level characters don't really have an "insert here" of their own, so I made one based on Elsa's feats since hers are really good.
yeah and then we can add their own feats on top of this
 
Od Lagna stuff, could be relevant in like Arc 12

OD LAGNA QUOTES

LIGHT NOVEL
  1. Spirit is the term used to refer to supernatural beings who are given life by Od Lagna, manifest in this world through the power of Mana, and meddle with it as they please. They are born as Lesser Spirits, become Quasi-Spirits, and finally reach the status of Spirit. —Bonds of Ice, Prologue
  2. “They (Hollows) are said to be a passed away life’s thoughts and regrets left behind in the world for the living, unable to return to Od Lagna, continuing to drift about in the realm of the dead…” —Re:Zero Tanpenshuu Volume 2, "Operation: Kokkuri", Section 2
  3. “Should I renounce this oath, my soul shall be tainted and my flesh enveloped and burned away by purifying flame. And my soul shall fall into the void, never to return to Od Lagna again.” —Volume 15, Closing Chapter
  4. Minerva’s Authority let her forcefully convert the destructive energy she could hold into healing power. Her punches and kicks were some of the gentlest in the whole world, but they did not come cheap. Her forceful conversion of power forcibly linked straight into Od Lagna, the root of this world, twisting its rules, causing it to execute this. And because of that, the world was forced to pay its due compensation for having twisted its general notions, in the shape of a natural disaster somewhere completely unrelated. —The Witch's After Tea Party / Witch's Evaluation Meeting, Section 2
  5. “This place is, lonesome white, the final destination of the soul. The cradle of Od Lagna. ――The Hall of Memories.” —Volume 24, Chapter 2, Section 8
  6. “In short, this is the place where souls are filtered. You use a dust cloth which had been used before once again after washing and drying it, no? The same goes for souls. By clearing the dirt stuck onto it, it is used once more when in a clear state again.” —Volume 24, Chapter 3, Section 1
  7. “The rule about how nobody must get to know, has already been broken a long time back. But, happenings of the Hall of Memories don’t leak outside easily. That’s why the scary, scary Witch won’t make a move.” —Volume 24, Chapter 3, Section 1
  8. It’s not an article so great as to be called God, that thing. That thing has nothing like such splendid ideology, after all. It’s just a mechanism, you know. A mechanism for keeping the world from breaking is what it is. Whether Witch Factors, or Divine Protections, or Sword Saints, or Witches, it considers nothing, you know. If there’s something nice about Od Lagna, it’s just that it’s uninterested, equal, impartial, and favors nothing.” —Volume 24, Chapter 3, Section 1
  9. “Od Lagna… Betty isn’t well-knowledgeable regarding that either, I suppose. But, just that it is the core point of this world… The place where all Mana returns to, is what it’s said, in fact. All Mana returns to Od Lagna, and gets circulated… In other words, Od Lagna is an existence heavily tied with the death and rebirth of Spirits. That’s why it can’t be stated as something unrelated to Betty and the others.” —Volume 24, Chapter 3, Section 6
  10. “What should be done? What should be done in order to steal it? If onii-san’s Return by Death is an Authority, then it can’t be stolen by just eating. It’s different from things that come attached with Memories and Names. Witch Factors are the antithesis of Od Lagna, after all! It won’t come detached easily! That’s why…” That was why, was an Authority to be stolen, there was no choice but to steal the Witch Factor itself. —Volume 25, Chapter 3, Section 1
  11. “Sorry to disappoint, but there is no God in this world. The closest thing would be something called Od Lagna, but it has no will, nor does it judge people.” The term “Od Lagna” was one he had heard a few times before. ――It seemed to refer to an unimaginably vast conceptual existence in this other world. It existed, but did nothing. In a way, it might have been similar to the God Subaru knew from his own world. —Re:Zero kara Kasaneru Isekai Seikatsu, Bluray Novel, Chapter 2
  12. “――The secret art of dragging a lost soul back, without handing it over to Od Lagna. If the soul does not return to Od Lagna, it will return to the earth, and without receiving the proper treatment, it will enter its next vessel. ――You could call it resurrection, or even reincarnation.” —Volume 32, Chapter 2, Section 4
  13. The Witch was the person responsible for filling this Imperial Capital with undead, the being who had created the reason why Balleroy and Carillon were standing in front of Madelyn like this right now. The Witch, who had constructed an unnatural body which resembled the dragonhusk of Mezoreia, was involved with secrets of Od Lagna that even Madelyn, a dragonkin, was unaware of. For that reason, she had been able to call back this many souls, and reconstruct them in their living state. —Volume 36, Chapter 5, Section 1

Author Q&As
  1. Od Lagna isn’t really a lifeform with a will, so it isn’t generally hostile towards anyone. It’s similar to the sun. Reinhard would win if they fought, though.” —AskFM Q&A, 2014
  2. “Is Minerva-tan pulling Mana from Od Lagna and playing Bokosuka?” A: “That’s right. Even Od Lagna can only make a puzzled face over this.” —AskFM Q&A, 2014
  3. “When Reinhard feels a Divine Protection is needed, Od Lagna creates it and gives it to him. Sometimes there are errors in conveying his intention, and he doesn’t get a proper Divine Protection.” —Reinhard's Birthday Q&A, 2019
  4. “No one's asked about this before, but I don’t think Divine Protections related to laughter exist. Since Od Lagna doesn’t understand people's hearts.” —Reinhard's Birthday Q&A, 2019

WEB NOVEL
  1. “Make sure you do not misunderstand. The possibility is present because it is her. There is no way to bring back lives that have met a conventional death. Od Lagna would never permit such convenient Magic as resurrection.” —Arc 4, Interlude II, "Emilia Camp ● Warlock ● Spirit ● Spiritual Arts User"
  2. “Od Lagna is… How to say, a stockpile of Mana at the core of the world. No, supposing that the world itself were a living creature, then Od Lagna would be its nexus, and the Od of the world. Though we can only imagine as to its exact location, and whether it is sentient or not.” —Arc 4, Interlude II, "Emilia Camp ● Warlock ● Spirit ● Spiritual Arts User"
  3. “All of Magic in this world was devised by past Magicians. The first incidence of Magic happened when an individual with outstanding talent in the manipulation of Mana began casting Magic of their type. As more people became capable of Magic, and disparities in proficiency began to arise, it became difficult to classify the phenomenon without assigning names or classes. Yes. While Magical techniques and knowledge were expanding, people with incredible talent for Magic started being born. They devised novel uses of Mana, separated from the existing forms of Magic, to create new Magic. The development of Magic has always proceeded as mundane Magicians comprehensively overuse the novel discoveries from a prior selection of geniuses. The existence of a source for Magic and the power called Mana. Research investigating into the topic proceeded as people tested unprecedented approaches and methods for using Mana. Those who created Magic with shocking effects began to stand out even among the geniuses. Each case of this Magic produced results beyond compare to previous Magic, such that a single Magician could alter a region’s geography—— And once that happened, they all saw exactly the same thing. With its dim glow, it was the very Mana they so naturally manipulated. But this was a mass of power overwhelmingly vaster than any Mana they had touched before—— These Magicians, with their understanding of so-called forbidden Magic, all witnessed this expanse of Mana, and their minds soon fell ill.” —Arc 4, Interlude II, "Emilia Camp ● Warlock ● Spirit ● Spiritual Arts User"
  4. Just as humans fear injury or disease, the world rejects those liable to shake its foundations. That was what some first started saying about Od Lagna. The true common point between those whose minds were broken by witnessing Od Lagna, was that they reached new heights of Magic that would have rewritten the practice’s history.” —Arc 4, Interlude II, "Emilia Camp ● Warlock ● Spirit ● Spiritual Arts User"
  5. One theory states that Od Lagna is the consciousness ruling over everything in the world. And though it warrants skepticism, perhaps Od Lagna could be the one bestowing people with Divine Protections—— Is the nonsense that people have come up with.” —Arc 4, Interlude II, "Emilia Camp ● Warlock ● Spirit ● Spiritual Arts User"
  6. Return by Death. Subaru did not intend to reveal its requirements to Roswaal in detail, but it was no exaggeration that Subaru’s ability was conceivably touching on the taboo of resurrection. Subaru had used Return by Death to alter his own doomed fate, and saved the lives of others. If Od Lagna were to witness this, there was no way that Subaru would pass its harsh standards. Unless, perhaps, the entity that allowed Subaru to Return by Death was strong enough to survive Od Lagna. —Arc 4, Interlude II, "Emilia Camp ● Warlock ● Spirit ● Spiritual Arts User"
  7. —―As the white world peeled away, the harlequin world which laid beyond to the other side was slowly reformed. The enormous, rough, and overwhelming paintbrush of God daubed colors to the world. It was an exotic sensation, as if witnessing the world being painted with colors from a confined, colorless space. He had heard the legend of God creating the world in seven days, but it did not seem like God had necessarily assembled the building blocks of the world within seven days; it rather felt as if God had painted it out on the colorless canvas. ――The cradle of Od Lagna. Or, the Hall of Memories. Natsuki Subaru’s existence was being extracted from a seemingly different dimension. Being separated from that unfamiliar space into the former world, the fragments of his consciousness gradually tied up, and bit-by-bit, his self was being reconstructed―― —Arc 6, Chapter 62, "Tremors of Collapse"
  8. “――When I dove into the Book of the Dead, I was brought to a white, empty place instead of Reid’s past. That’s where the girl who’s the Sin Archbishop… of Gluttony was, she named herself as Rui. According to what that Rui said, that place was something like Od Lagna’s cradle, the Hall of Memories, so it seems.” Inside the Tower, with continued tremors pursuing the soles of their feet, Subaru commenced explaining what he had seen in the Book of the Dead. The reality of his encounter with the girl in the white space, and that place that was called the Hall of Memories. The interposition of a supernatural existence possessing overwhelming strength, Od Lagna. —Arc 6, Chapter 62, "Tremors of Collapse"
  9. “Am I being treated as deceased, ever since I lost my memories… The Books of the Dead of Taygeta, that Hall of Memories, is even observing the worlds I die in…?” If that were the case, then in no way was it inconceivable that it was depicting Subaru’s Deaths in some type of form through the Book of the Dead. However, in that case, what did that make of Return by Death? “Whether it rewinds time, or does it rebuild the world itself, I’d given a thought to both but…” For argument’s sake, along the hypothesis that the Books of the Dead held a method to generate the Book of “Natsuki Subaru”, it could not be helped but to reach the conviction that the latter had much more likelihood. If that held true, then the phenomenon which encased this Natsuki Subaru was not something as charming as Return by Death, but―― —Arc 6, Chapter 74, "「Natsuki Subaru」"
  10. Of course, Rui hated being looked down upon, but she also despised being directed. That was the same as Od Lagna, an existence for whom that perpetually was the usual state of things. Rui did not want her life, which yet remained to commence, to be distorted by the interference of anyone but Rui. —Arc 6, Chapter 75, "Rui Arneb"
  11. The Memories eaten by Gluttony did not remain extant within the person concerned, the Names eaten by Gluttony did not remain extant within other people. That was because the Authority tore them off from the soul, which defined one’s existence in the world. The proper cleansing of the soul by Od Lagna, which was practiced in the Hall of Memories―― acting as its agent of its own accord, the Authority of Gluttony would usurp it in stealth. Therefore, the Memories and Names snavelled by Gluttony did not remain present within anyone. Restrictively, though there had been ones who had only Memories or only Names stolen away, respective negative effects got applied. If the Memories were stolen then said person, if the Name was stolen then other people, could no longer remember the person concerned. That could not be altered as long as the disposition of the soul remained within the protection of Od Lagna. —Arc 6, Chapter 75, "Rui Arneb"
 
Carrying on from this, I realized that the Extraordinary Genius characters have the ridiculous feats from Theresia and Cecilus to scale to, kind of like an "insert here" list of feats to add after their own feats are explained, helping justify the rating.

But the Genius level characters don't really have an "insert here" of their own, so I made one based on Elsa's feats since hers are really good.
Yea looks good, funny how Elsa is the benchmark for skill.

There is some other stuff to add there, which I don't remember right now, would have to go through the feats, but that should be decent.

Jamal's perception feat for example should scale to virtually everyone.

BTW we kinda have been ignoring Ricardo, mostly cause he is stated to be a guy who uses brute force, but that was really in comparison to Wilhelm, he should still have some level of skill.
 
Wow that might be the best-looking episode of Re:Zero ever produced. Incredible work from Whitefox.

BTW we kinda have been ignoring Ricardo, mostly cause he is stated to be a guy who uses brute force, but that was really in comparison to Wilhelm, he should still have some level of skill.
Yeah, he's in the same Wilhelm/Julius/Garfiel(Arc 4) class of fighters, even if his physical might is his selling point.

I read an Anastasia Camp side story a while ago where he battled a twisted killer from the Multi-Arm Clan who skinned wolfmen, he was really impressive. He's also probably gonna be a major fighter in the Kararagi Shinigami Incident shop specials.
 
Last edited:
yo, from the perspective of an anime only, subaru lowkey took those hits like a champ in the newest episode, before season 2 i wouldve been sure hed die from those hits but he handled himself quite well.

considering subaru isnt particularly known for being a fighter, its nice to see just how much the time skip he put to good use, especially being able to throw a rock like that with the whip
 
Subaru throwing that rock should be calced. That's insane LOL!

Also yeah dude felt really superhuman in this scene!

This episode was 10/10 IMO. I think it is actually BETTER than the source material (At least in web novel form cause I'm too lazy to open LN).

Source for Capella's introduction btw (Webnovel), if anyone wants to read/re-read: https://witchculttranslation.com/20...-36-the-beginning-and-the-conclusion-of-love/

The animation, voice acting, and character of this episode were incredible all around. The fluidity of Capella's transformations combined with her sadistic and crazed personality... succulent.

I love her.
 
Subaru was tanking massive punches like a champ, meanwhile Heinkel got knocked out by a Glass bottle Lol.

Carrying on from this, I realized that the Extraordinary Genius characters have the ridiculous feats from Theresia and Cecilus to scale to, kind of like an "insert here" list of feats to add after their own feats are explained, helping justify the rating.

But the Genius level characters don't really have an "insert here" of their own, so I made one based on Elsa's feats since hers are really good.
it looks really good, though I think Emilia has a way better intuition feat then Elsa so she should be used instead

her intuition told her to disregard both Subaru and Vincent's orders and go to a completely random spot in the Imperial Capital where she found Sphinx
And so, at the same time that Olbart shouted in his blood-stained garb―― Emilia stood, reflecting on the fact that she had taken an unplanned action with her intuition as the basis.

It was a big decision to go against the wishes of Subaru and Abel, both of whom had worked very hard to think through the best course of action
, and to act separately from Tanza, Yorna, and the others.

Emilia: [If my uneasiness turned out to be just a misunderstanding, I thought I’d hurry back to Tanza-chan and the others, but…]

Following a slight unease and a change in the air, a misapprehension that seemed to wash over her, Emilia ran not to the Crystal Palace but further north.

And there she found someone she was not supposed to have met.


If someone were to merely be somewhere, then no matter who they were, assuming that they were committing wrongdoings would usually be unacceptable. But this other person was a bit of an exception.

After all――,

Emilia: [You reaaally surprised me. ――Why are you here, Echidna?]

At Emilia’s prompt, the white-haired Witch turned to look.

She spoke with only the slightest hint of surprise at her well-formed appearance.

Witch: [I believe I am the one who ought to be surprised. ――Witch of Envy.]

So she declared. Arc 8, Chapter 67 – “The Cards in One’s Hand”
 
SUBARU I FORGIVE YOu, I DIDN't KNOW HOW SUPERHUMAN YOU AREEEEEEEE

It's crazy how he survived being tossed to the floor at such high speeds by the lust ******** (I forgot her name) and he survived longer than the governor lady

Also, is Al Subaru? Has that been confirmed? Im curious
 
SUBARU I FORGIVE YOu, I DIDN't KNOW HOW SUPERHUMAN YOU AREEEEEEEE

It's crazy how he survived being tossed to the floor at such high speeds by the lust ******** (I forgot her name) and he survived longer than the governor lady

Also, is Al Subaru? Has that been confirmed? Im curious
idk who told you that but Al was never Subaru 🤡
 
idk who told you that but Al was never Subaru 🤡

I got it from this guy. It makes sense, I think.

Subaru is from the real world. You know who also is from the real world? Al, so that means they're the same person. Probably some cool time travelling fuccjkery about a doomed future or something. That's why Al wears an ugly orange scarf. You know who else likes orange? That's right Boomstick, it's Subaru.
 

I got it from this guy. It makes sense, I think.

Subaru is from the real world. You know who also is from the real world? Al, so that means they're the same person. Probably some cool time travelling fuccjkery about a doomed future or something. That's why Al wears an ugly orange scarf. You know who else likes orange? That's right Boomstick, it's Subaru.

Can't wait for Arc 9 to be adapted lmao, this theory If Subaru= AL gets more interessing there
 
Just finished watching the EP, and I have to ask... Is Capella beating the crap out of Subaru in the LN or is this an anime-only thing or was just Capella explicitly holding back to frick around with Subaru in the LN?

Because maybe, just maybe, this can work to upgrade Baru to 7-A, so he can solo JJK by himself /jk
 
Just finished watching the EP, and I have to ask... Is Capella beating the crap out of Subaru in the LN or is this an anime-only thing or was just Capella explicitly holding back to frick around with Subaru in the LN?

Because maybe, just maybe, this can work to upgrade Baru to 7-A, so he can solo JJK by himself /jk
Cappella was in fact beating and yanking him around the room in the novels too iirc

he can already solo jjk by himself
 
Capella's page needs to be moved.

I don't know how this wasn't noticed but her name is spelled wrong lmao.

"Lugnica" instead of "Lugunica"




ALSO, how do y'all explain Subaru harming her?
 
Back
Top