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Re Zero Discussion Thread: Season 3 is Real

Welp, anyway someone calc that shit.

Maybe you could assume he is throwing the rock at supersonic speed due to whip thing.

Uncertain what the value would be. Prolly just 9-B, but more concerned about the Lifting Strength. Bro is throwing boulders faster than sound.
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Interestingly Julius's Al clausaria did about the same damage as Subaru chucking the rock 💀
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Bro has the authority of rock chucking
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The rock was bigger than Capella's head, and Subaru tossed it fairly quickly, gotta be better than Athletic Human. There's also that lowkey Class 50 statement in Arc 9.

Then there's also really funny moments like Al in EX5 thinking he wouldn't be able to lift a 90kg sword lol
 
Subaru beating almost every other Isekai Mc i can think of in a no magic power/inhuman physiology fight. Only one i can see beating him is Cid, since he's a freak.
 
Epiccheev said:
Subaru beating almost every other Isekai Mc i can think of in a no magic power/inhuman physiology fight. Only one i can see beating him is Cid, since he's a freak.
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Cid is insane so yeah. He beats every Isekai protag pre-isekai lmao.
 
I know that it's pretty much agreed that Capella is just Mahito Before Mahito Was Made, but it seems that her Authority may even be soul-based too:
“――No, you’re the same person. You look different on the outside but you’re the same on the inside… Hmm? Perhaps you’re a little different on the inside too? Is such a thing even possible?”

“If the form and nature of a soul changes, the exterior follows suit. The converse is also true, but… by what sort of principle were you able to perceive that with merely a single glance? Answer: Required.” —Arc 8, Chapter 64
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Q: Is the technique Ferris used in Arc 3 to cause Mana to run wild also effective on Archbishops?

A: That requires him to have had contact with the target's Gate at least once, so if that condition is fulfilled then it's possible. However, Capella changes the shape of her Gate at will, Ley and Roy change when they bring out the power of those they have eaten, nothing works on Regulus to begin with, so about all he could do is try it on Sirius as a suicide attack. —Ferris' Birthday 2018
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He could hear Mother’s voice. He could still hear it? His ears and his eyes had disappeared, he no longer had the form of a living creature, and yet, he still had his consciousness, he still was himself… himself, what was the meaning of that? The meaning of thinking, a head to think, thinking… what did those even mean, what did it mean, what did it mean─?

"KYAHAHA! ******* piece of shit! All of you, DIE!!"

He could hear Mother bellowing that out as she laughed loudly.

Mother’s laughing, so that means she’s happy, thus I have to be happy too.

As his brain was being twisted into those thoughts, Reisel── The thing that was Reisel was obediently and diligently pruned. —Tanpenshuu Volume 5, Kararagi Girl & Cat's Eye
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Like it's fairly obvious that it's Od Stuff, like an insanely advanced version of Infantilization, but that's never outright stated. Arc 8 as a whole and particularly Sphinx's quote effectively confirms it though.
 
Should Capella get soul manipulation? I remember it saying something about gate manipulation but considering how Olbart's age manipulation works its probably directly interfering with the Od
(This would literally make her mahito)
 
SatellaTheWoE said:
Should Capella get soul manipulation? I remember it saying something about gate manipulation but considering how Olbart's age manipulation works its probably directly interfering with the Od
(This would literally make her mahito)
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Zabazab said:
I know that it's pretty much agreed that Capella is just Mahito Before Mahito Was Made, but it seems that her Authority may even be soul-based too
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Re:Zero has like 4 proper magic systems and multiple other abilities that don't fall into those 4 and to top it off, all of them are soft magic systems. It's rather difficult to analyze.

Flow Method, Magic & Spiritual Arts, Divine Protections, and Authorities... then there's also Jujutsu, Insect Cage Symbiosis, the Holy King's Blessings, Spirit Eating, Ninjutsu, Meteors, and whatever the Leaper Technique is.

The nature of magic in particular makes it difficult to properly evaluate, given how it's got effectively no rules past a certain level, just being limited by imagination.
You mean the definition of magic in Re:Zero, I guess? Magic is a paranormal power that alters mana passing through a Gate into a form that has an effect on reality, I think. Also, power that exceeds your limits for the one you’ve fallen in love with is “The Magic of Love”, I think. Sorry for suddenly turning romantic. —Q&A 19


When you prepare the needed mana, visualize how you want to use the magic, get your Gate working, and use the incantation, you can use magic. The necessary elements are firstly the preparation of the needed mana, proper mental image of the magic to be used, and enough basic ability with your Gate to activate the magic in the first place. It’s like the way that in order to throw a one-hundred-meter ball, you need the ball and the throwing form and a shoulder capable of long throws. —Q&A 19


In short, the thing that causes a mental image to take form is called an ‘incantation’, so even while chanting the fire incantation ‘Goa’, if the person chanting thinks of it as a ‘wind’ incantation, wind magic will be activated. It might be difficult to say ‘Goa’ and actually get ‘Fura’ magic. —Q&A 19


The reason being, the deep purple crystals she had cleared away had turned into flying shrapnel in their shattered state, spreading out and chasing down the fast-flying Sphinx.

“Magic is an image, as soon as you think you’ve stopped it, it all goes wrong, in fact.”

However, the crystalline arrow shape that represented Minya was not what was important. It was about the effect of freezing and shattering the time of the person it struck.

Indeed, even if it did not have the shape of an arrow, as long as it pierced the opponent, the form and size did not matter. —Arc 8, Chapter 19


Seeing Reinhard’s indifference to his pleas, the small man’s face reddened and he thrust both hands out toward Reinhard. A moment later, powerful mana swirled around his hands, attempting to warp the natural order of the world…

“Huh? Wait, what the… My mana’s formation is unraveling… Aahhhh!”

With the desired effect not taking place, Reinhard knocked the bewildered man to the ground. As he was even shorter than Felt, it looked to all the world like an adult bullying a child. —Tanpenshuu 10, Riot in Flanders


“――Expand territory, matrix redefinition.”

A fixed catchphrase was a declaration of war against the world, so had a Witch once proclaimed.

Magic, was a technique that reflected one’s will into reality, defying the laws of nature by means of incantation. A sophisticated, delicate act of barbarism tantamount to forcibly rewriting a script, altering the ending.

That was to say, the incantations of magic spells were none other than a polite greeting that declared, “I shall now destroy the world”.

Of course, since it was a greeting, there were times it would be ignored, or rejected.

If the formulation of the technique were not fully fleshed out, if the activation were messed up due to a lack of Mana, or if it spontaneously fired bringing about a result unlike the one desired; there were various things that could happen.

To begin with, this parable itself was naught more than a digression.

That which he was attempting to perform was not magic.

Only, if saying a catchphrase was a declaration of war against the world, then its essence was merely the same.

That was exactly why――,

“――Expand territory, matrix redefinition.”

That was a forewarning of murder towards a world that wished not to be destroyed, from one who wished to destroy it nonetheless.

Kill. Destroy. Rip. Trample. Flatten. Desecrate. Tear. Mangle. Incinerate. Crush. Smash. Liquify. Saturate.

Any word was fine. It was the same as magic. ――What mattered, was for the essence to be the same. —Arc 9, Chapter 12
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In short, the thing that causes a mental image to take form is called an ‘incantation’, so even while chanting the fire incantation ‘Goa’, if the person chanting thinks of it as a ‘wind’ incantation, wind magic will be activated. It might be difficult to say ‘Goa’ and actually get ‘Fura’ magic. —Q&A 19
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This actually proves that there really isnt a value of the meaning of the word itself, incantation can be any word but there is a general consensus on what word should be used for a specific magic kinda like how in school we denote special characters to special phenomenas of reality like F being Force

Which means, in practicality magic is pretty much reality manipulation...
 
Celestial_Pegasus said:
Still waiting on Class K Re Zero....
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Magical LS at least is easily Class G due to Roswaal lifting Emilia's iceberg
―Breaking through the clouds that hung over the Imperial Capital, an enormous mass of ice was plummeting from the heavens towards the city’s surface.

A mass of ice so mighty that one could have easily mistaken it for a mountain, Roswaal was naturally the one who had made it fall. However, if he produced a block of ice of that size, no matter how much pride Roswaal had as being the world’s greatest magician, he would barely have any Mana remaining after the fact.

Therefore, he had gotten Emilia, who possessed excessive amounts of Mana, to create the block of ice.

Roswaal: “She still had so much energy after creating something to that extent. Truly, it is an absurd notion.”

Having performed a marvel equivalent to creating an iceberg, Emilia calmly followed Subaru’s orders and confronted a different battlefield. As reliable as that was, when he considered the possibility that he might have to confront her as adversaries one day, it gave him quite the headache.

However, in this moment, he would depend on that reliability, and would proceed with the stratagem of bringing down the iceberg.

It had been uncertain if all of Roswaal’s Mana could be used to produce such an enormous iceberg, but it would not have been too much if he were to simply maintain that which Emilia had created, and keep it afloat. –Arc 8, Chapter 53
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Yea that comment was not cool.

We are very loose with spoilers, but something like that is just way too huge to let slip, especially since this thread had a lot of eyes due to the anime now.
 
Zabazab said:
Oh yeah baby it's aaaallll comin' together...
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I feel like we can get a much much better value than just a "large iceberg" on account of the fact it's said to be the side of a mountain and when broken up it caused severe damage all across the capitol. It's clearly way way way larger than just a couple hundred meters. Hell, even the smaller icebergs that Roswaal fires a barrage of with his own magic later are described as "enormous."
 
Hey, I have two questions about Garfield.


How fast does it take for his AD to operate? And how long did it take for this to take Garfield to 6-A?
 
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