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Potential Upgrade to Arceus' Power Null (Or a mountain of new resistances)

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Also, not sure how much of a difference this would make, but all of the standard pokemon medicines from the games, manga and anime exist in this game too. Like the potions, super potions, paralyz heal, awakening, antidote, etc.
 
Elizhaa said:
Mewtwo have Time Travel*https://vsbattles.fandom.com/index.php?title=Mewtwo&diff=921659&oldid=914394
Does it tie into how it exists in Conquest?

  • Likely since he was created from technology
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I was hoping for something more along the lines from Conquest itself explaining how Mewtwo came to be in their time period. Also I have never heard of, or seen anything referring to Mewtwo traveling to the past in Mewtwo Returns. Even looking through it now, there's nothing, unless it's not in the movie and its in some form of Manga.
 
It's from Strikes Back.

But Mewtwo's time traveling is not a justification for being in Conquest whatsoever so it doesnt really matter.
 
To be fair the same could be said of Mewtwo and Porygon in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, in the world without humans how do these artificial Pokemon exist?
 
Xerkser500 said:
It's from Strikes Back.
But Mewtwo's time traveling is not a justification for being in Conquest whatsoever so it doesnt really matter.
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True. However, on that not, there's no reference to time travel in that movie either, unless you are referring to Everyone being back on the mainland, seemingly rewound back to the start of the movie. That was just Mewtwo doing a mass teleport and mind wipe. Either way, it's dubious.
 
Everything12 said:
To be fair the same could be said of Mewtwo and Porygon in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, in the world without humans how do these artificial Pokemon exist?
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The Pokemon in PMD know what humans are and the playr character is a human turned Pokemon, puled from another world. It's more believeable than Ancient Pokemon time somehow having a mewtwo when there should be no believable way to explain it. Mewtwo is just there because its Mewtwo, and it's a popular Pokemon
 
In any case, I think that we are derailing.

The OP is not about PConquestCnquest but the Trading Card Game. We should finish this discussion first or someone can make a new CRT with the Topic of Pokemon Conquest.
 
Right. So is it accepted or no? Because if so, quite a few Pokemon get some new hax upgrades thanks to these cards. A good example being Machamp

Brick Smash: This attack's damage isn't affected by Resistance, Poké-Powers, Poké-Bodies, or any other effects on the Defending Pokémon. 40

Immunity: Prevent all effects of your opponent's attacks done to Machamp.

Resistance negation is looking like the new standard for Pokemon now, thanks to the cards.
 
Right, my bad. Should have said it was derailing from the start.

Anyway, I also agree it should be accepted for the multiple reasons brought here and nothing goes against it. With Pokemon being a multiverse, the manga explicity proving the card game has actual storylines behind each card to explain how they came to be in the 1st place, the said manga including game and anime characters and the TCG being directly based off the games in general, all of this combined should mean the TCG is acceptable.
 
Btw, I'll ask again. For those who side with the TCG being acceptable, do you want me or someone else to try and make blogs that list the potential abilities from all TCGs?

Because as DMB1 said, if we do this for Arceus and the God tiers then all Pokemon would have to be upgraded with TCG abilities as even the most basic have add ons.
 
Xerkser500 said:
Btw, I'll ask again. For those who side with the TCG being acceptable, do you want me or someone else to try and make blogs that list the potential abilities from all TCGs?
Because as DMB1 said, if we do this for Arceus and the God tiers then all Pokemon would have to be upgraded with TCG abilities as even the most basic have add ons.
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If someone wants it, I think it would be the best option for accuracy and for potential CRT about Pokemon TCG, Xerkser500.
 
Janglesthemonkles said:
According to some people on this wiki, the pokemon cards being non canon to the comic and cartoon=non valid.
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By that logic, the games themselves are non-canon.
 
Why is that? If we treat the manga as Secondary Canon, then considering the TCG is directly connected to a manga there should be no difference.
 
Yobobojojo said:
Why is that? If we treat the manga as Secondary Canon, then considering the TCG is directly connected to a manga there should be no difference.
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I'm like... 67% sure we treat manga as teritary canon.
 
DMB 1 said:
The manga is supposedly a tertiary canon because "Games > Anime > Manga", right?
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That's what I've heard as well.

But I've also heard that the creator of the series' considers the Manga the secondary canon.
 
If that is evidence then this should be even bigger evidence 'Abilities under the name of Abilities did not appear in the Trading Card Game until the Black & White expansion kicking off Generation V. However, this was merely a renaming of the longstanding Pokémon Powers. Pokémon Powers were very similar to Abilities, but were introduced much earlier, appearing in the very first Base Set during Generation I. In fact, some Abilities from the games originally appeared as Pokémon Powers. '
 
Everything12 said:
If that is evidence then this should be even bigger evidence 'Abilities under the name of Abilities did not appear in the Trading Card Game until the Black & White expansion kicking off Generation V. However, this was merely a renaming of the longstanding Pokémon Powers. Pokémon Powers were very similar to Abilities, but were introduced much earlier, appearing in the very first Base Set during Generation I. In fact, some Abilities from the games originally appeared as Pokémon Powers. '
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Any examples?
 
Xerkser500 said:
Anyway, I also agree it should be accepted for the multiple reasons brought here and nothing goes against it. With Pokemon being a multiverse, the manga explicity proving the card game has actual storylines behind each card to explain how they came to be in the 1st place, the said manga including game and anime characters and the TCG being directly based off the games in general, all of this combined should mean the TCG is acceptable.
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So did people just completely miss my reply earlier?

We have multiple justifications to why the TCG being canon is fair, while nothing justifies it being non canon.

It should be canon until proven otherwise, especially because of the evidence supporting it.
 
Xerkser500 said:
Xerkser500 said:
Anyway, I also agree it should be accepted for the multiple reasons brought here and nothing goes against it. With Pokemon being a multiverse, the manga explicity proving the card game has actual storylines behind each card to explain how they came to be in the 1st place, the said manga including game and anime characters and the TCG being directly based off the games in general, all of this combined should mean the TCG is acceptable.
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So did people just completely miss my reply earlier?

We have multiple justifications to why the TCG being canon is fair, while nothing justifies it being non canon.

It should be canon until proven otherwise, especially because of the evidence supporting it.
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Right now, we're just making 100% without-a-dobut sure that the TCG is, in fact, undeniably canon.
 
Of course, that´s why I was expecting it to just die and move on.

Anyways, I´m fine with Arceus getting a buff.

It does confuse me with TCG profiles being usable because back during the Giratina Vs Chara match, I was told that the Shadow Force effect is inapplicable because it only works on certain targets, I think? But in 1v1 matchups where verse equalization is a thing, I don't see why it isn't. Clarifications on that? Cause I sure didn't get ANY whatsoever back then.
 
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