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Khorne vs Arceus re-do
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I have no idea what the rules for a remade thread are when the first thread was abruptly closed due to being complete shit as opposed to being removed due to later changes to the profiles.
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I don't think there is any.
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Yobobojojo said:
sorry ovo
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bump for the emperor
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Eh f#$% it, guess I'll throw in a vote for Khorne.
Khorne resists pretty much all of Arceus' hax, which makes actually damaging him incredibly difficult. Other hax, such as space-time manipulation, become entirely useless, as Khorne has no spatial or temporal restrictions at this level, and does not abide by cause and effect. Direct attack is already out of the question, as Khorne isn't a tangible foe you can just strike and hope to cause real harm to, as stated by God-King Sigmar, who is at least comparable to Khorne in terms of sheer strength.
I don't really think I can definitively give an answer to who has the raw power advantage due to the vagueness of both, but what I can say is that Khorne is supposed to be capable of destroying creation in one blow. Even if you assume the lowest end of this only referring to things within the Realm of Chaos, this would include Nurgle's seemingly endless swamp of dead universes + the rest of Nurgle's realm + the realms of Tzeentch, Slaanesh, and Khorne himself, each of which are comparable in size to Nurgle's realm + the neutral areas and wastes of the Realm of Chaos. Even Khorne's footfalls are enough to shake all of this to its core.
On top of all this, Khorne's regen and immortality vastly overshadow Arceus', making him even more difficult to stop. Not to mention that through the very act of this conflict taking place, Khorne grows in power and influence.
Khorne resists pretty much all of Arceus' hax, which makes actually damaging him incredibly difficult. Other hax, such as space-time manipulation, become entirely useless, as Khorne has no spatial or temporal restrictions at this level, and does not abide by cause and effect. Direct attack is already out of the question, as Khorne isn't a tangible foe you can just strike and hope to cause real harm to, as stated by God-King Sigmar, who is at least comparable to Khorne in terms of sheer strength.
I don't really think I can definitively give an answer to who has the raw power advantage due to the vagueness of both, but what I can say is that Khorne is supposed to be capable of destroying creation in one blow. Even if you assume the lowest end of this only referring to things within the Realm of Chaos, this would include Nurgle's seemingly endless swamp of dead universes + the rest of Nurgle's realm + the realms of Tzeentch, Slaanesh, and Khorne himself, each of which are comparable in size to Nurgle's realm + the neutral areas and wastes of the Realm of Chaos. Even Khorne's footfalls are enough to shake all of this to its core.
On top of all this, Khorne's regen and immortality vastly overshadow Arceus', making him even more difficult to stop. Not to mention that through the very act of this conflict taking place, Khorne grows in power and influence.
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>"Eh f#$% it, guess I'll throw in a vote for Khorne"
>"I dont think that was a vote"
>"I dont think that was a vote"
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Khorne for Azzy's reasons.
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Arceus' survivability is actually really lame for a being on his level.
Khorne FRA.
Khorne FRA.
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Khorne FRA.
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I was about to say what Ever said.
Arceus survivability around these lvls is quite frankly not as good as people make it seem to be at times.
Arceus survivability around these lvls is quite frankly not as good as people make it seem to be at times.
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@azathoth but ... Can he kill arceus ? untill you give a solid arguement that khorne can kill arceus, i'm not counting your or any who FRA your comment as a valid vote
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Pfft. Implying I'm gonna get into this again.
Khorne, being a pragmatic fighter, still has no way past the plates, so still inconclusive. They punch each other forever and never hit the other. Khorne's not negating Arceus's plates because if he found power null unfair, he wouldn't use it (among other things).
Also, that passive power increase via rage can be nullified.
Khorne, being a pragmatic fighter, still has no way past the plates, so still inconclusive. They punch each other forever and never hit the other. Khorne's not negating Arceus's plates because if he found power null unfair, he wouldn't use it (among other things).
Also, that passive power increase via rage can be nullified.
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As far as I can recall, literally the only good thing about Arceus' survivability is that he's an avatar of a higher being.
But that doesn't matter considering how, at Tier 2 levels, that being is easy to reach and destroy, especially for an Omnipresent being.
But that doesn't matter considering how, at Tier 2 levels, that being is easy to reach and destroy, especially for an Omnipresent being.
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The only way Khorne doesn't kill Arceus is legit people assuming everything he does gets no selled.
How many other 2-Bs on his lvl Arceus utterly no sold EVERYTHING they had?
How many other 2-Bs on his lvl Arceus utterly no sold EVERYTHING they had?
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The mental image of these two being reduced to a slugging match is hilarious to me.The real cal howard said:
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In fact, since Arceus lacks means of permanently putting it down not to mention not having reliable regen for this kind of match, I even see Khorne spamming Power Null, which at times may work, at times may not, wearing Arceus down until he's done with it.
Unless Arceus has feats of outright noping 2-B Power Null on Khorne's lvl every single time.
Unless Arceus has feats of outright noping 2-B Power Null on Khorne's lvl every single time.
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Khorne has never power null'd something passive, like the plates. So no, that won't work. Not to mention he wouldn't power null the plates, as he wouldn't find it unfair.
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Bottom line is, Khorne can't hit Arceus, just like Arceus can't hit Khorne.
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The time manipulation of Dialga can affect beings without concept of time and space and that can exist outside of the reality.
So I think Khorne may still be affected.
So I think Khorne may still be affected.
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Pretty sure Khorne would find the Plates unfair, though. And Arceus still needs to activate the Plates, even if their effects are passive.
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"Never power nulled something passive"
And you assume the Plates will nope everything from another 2-B for eternity based on what exactly?
- flashbacks to Kharn nullifying peoples passive psychic powers just from being there. More flashbacks about Khorne actually having other 2-B beings such as the Chaos Gods like Tzeentch to compare*
And you assume the Plates will nope everything from another 2-B for eternity based on what exactly?
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Plates are a part of his being, so no. Also, the dude power nulls something that power nulls, because it's unfair? That's the epitome of hypocrisy.
And once again, people are still stating things that are not on Khorne's page, namely his resistances.
And once again, people are still stating things that are not on Khorne's page, namely his resistances.
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You mean the same Tzeentch who actively does stuff, or the psychics who are infinitely weaker than Khorne and who's passive psychic powers are offensive? Name once when Khorne has negated something that was passively defensive.FateAlbane said:
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Who said anything about nulling what's unfair? It's what doesn't fall under his description of honourable martial combat as far as I'm aware.
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Yet Khorne being unaffectable by conventional means is? Again, hypocrisy.
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>This shit again.
wew.
wew.
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The real cal howard said:
Name once the plates noped EVERYTHING from another 2-B on Khorne's lvl, then you come back and use that argument with me
or I'm calling NLF here as your argument basically stands on assuming everything Khorne does is never touching Arceus because "Plate no sells" despite 0 feats to back that up.
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The real cal howard said:
Pretty sure Khorne could care less about human notions of hipocrisy.
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