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This CRT was made to upgrade the cosmology of the verse, as well as a few characters who have the Post-Silver Sea key.
Thanks to @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless for helping me with this.
Cosmology Upgrades
During the events of the Silver Sea, we find out that there exists a multiverse with countless universes in the shape of bubbles. Further more, it was stated the Silver Sea has 99+ layers, implying each layer has countless universes.
Worlds are universes with near infinite black skies stretched out in all directions. Worlds are described as endless, as it's impossible to leave a world by normal means. The space in a world is distorted, and thus something that flies straight up, naturally changes direction, goes around the world and comes out from below.
The different universes are all separate space-time continuums. That would make the universes of the Silver Sea Low 2-C, and not 3-A.
It's also said that deeper layers are more powerful than shallow layers. Here are some statements to explain the difference between layers:
From chapter 493 of the WN.
"In this little world, which exists deeper than your little world, the power of all things is in another dimension. Strength, speed, stubbornness, magic, everything. Even a grain of air is a weight to you. If I unleash a spell to destroy your shallow world, it won't be able to destroy a single ship here."
What this means in the context of the story is that a spell capable of destroying an entire world in a shallow layer, meaning a Low 2-C structure, isn't capable of destroying an ordinary object in a deeper layer.
"But in that earlier game I was holding back. Even after I went easy on him, the man (Lay) couldn't keep up with my speed."
In this fight, Lay, who has FTL speeds, wasn't able to keep up with a deeper world inhabitant who was holding back, which supports the fact that deeper layers are in another dimension compared to shallow layers.
"I thought I'd been thrown off by the sheer force of the blast, but I didn't know that the hull of the ship was unscathed. It is indeed stronger than the matter of my world."
This statement says that even the matter that makes up a deeper layer is in another dimension compared to that of a shallow layer.
The difference between layers doesn't just apply to physical stuff. Anos is extremely strong, capable of overpowering some deeper world inhabitants with his strength, and is also a "misfit", which means he has Acausality type 4, yet his spells are mostly useless in deeper layers. He should be strong enough to overpower deeper world inhabitants with his spells, yet the only way Anos can make his spells useful again is by "deepening" them, which means non-physical stuff like spells are also affected by the difference in layers.
E.g. <Dogda Azbedara>: Supreme Flame Magic Heavy Cannon. Highly explosive flame magic that trails towards the enemy in the form of a blue star. As a deep magic, its power is far beyond <Jio Graze>, to the point that it's not even comparable.
From chapter 579 of the WN.
"Fire and dew is the order of life. Its quantity is the foundation of the Small World, which determines the depth of the world. It is no exaggeration to say that Silver Water Shogi uses the Small World itself as its pawns."
"Using the fire and dew as pawns would indeed be equivalent to using the world itself as a pawn."
"If you lose the fire and dew, the world will be destroyed."
"You're going to deal with 169 small worlds. Head of the Militia World, Anos Voldigoad."
Deeper world inhabitants see shallow worlds as shogi pieces. To explain, they are using 169 universes from a shallow layer as pawns in a game of shogi, currently being played in a deeper layer. Fire and dew make up the different worlds, and the amount of fire and dew in a world is directly responsible for determining in which layer the world is in.
If a shogi piece is destroyed, the corresponding universe is destroyed, since they're the same thing.
With all these statements, I believe that a deeper layer qualifies as a higher level of existence. Since the Silver Sea has 99+ layers, meaning 100 layers at minimum, I also think it qualifies as a 1-B structure.
Currently, the Post-Silver Sea characters have all ventured at least 21 layers deeper in the Silver Sea, giving them 21 levels into 1-B.
Venuzdonoa, which can destroy all of creation, as well as Anos who is superior to it, also gain 100 levels into 1-B.
**Giving them "possibly 1-B" is also fine.
Anos Voldigoad Upgrades
- Corrosion Inducement
Anos' blood corrodes the world.
- Absorption
Anos was able to absorb Graham's source into his source, and after absorbing Graham, he "inherited" magic spells that only Graham could use.
- Resistance to Regeneration Negation (High-Godly)
From chapter 556 of the WN.
"Kostoria's principle destroying sword is swung down on the defenceless Sasha. The dark-coloured blade slashed diagonally from her shoulder to her torso. A deadly blow that destroyed even the roots. However, Sasha, who seemed to be torn apart, was unharmed-- Her principle destroying sword destroyed that reason..."
Both Sasha and Kostoria were wielding Venuzdonoa in this fight. We already know that Venuzdonoa denies regeneration up to High-Godly just by being summoned. Sasha's roots were destroyed by an attack from Venuzdonoa, but she then used Venuzdonoa to regen her roots while the other Venuzdonoa was still around.
Since she could perform High-Godly regen, not by herself but by using Venuzdonoa, while another Venuzdonoa was around, it's safe to say that Venuzdonoa grants it's wielder Resistance to Regeneration Negation.
- Graham's source
It's already been established that Anos absorbed Graham's source, and there after he gained Graham's abilities. Anos can freely use and manipulate Graham's source, which is absorbed into his own source. Since his source is basically the same as Graham's, he would gain any abilities that is related to Graham's source, like Resistance to Regeneration Negation and Resistance to Immortality Negation.
The Cosmology Upgrades and Anos Voldigoad Upgrades are separate, so please specify what you agree/disagree with.
Agree: @Dereck03, @Rustobal10 @Yar_R_agi_7k @Ian2296 (Anos Voldigoad Upgrades) @XRizkyx @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless (Anos Voldigoad Upgrades) @Bernkastelll @Great_king_frog @Hatamao
Disagree: @Rikimarox2 (1-B stuff) @Lapsad (1-B stuff) @Guileal (1-B stuff) @Planck69 (1-B stuff) @Delta333 (1-B stuff) @Ned_the_outer_god (1-B stuff)
Neutral: @Vietthai96 @Ian2296 (1-B stuff)
Thanks to @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless for helping me with this.
Cosmology Upgrades
During the events of the Silver Sea, we find out that there exists a multiverse with countless universes in the shape of bubbles. Further more, it was stated the Silver Sea has 99+ layers, implying each layer has countless universes.
Worlds are universes with near infinite black skies stretched out in all directions. Worlds are described as endless, as it's impossible to leave a world by normal means. The space in a world is distorted, and thus something that flies straight up, naturally changes direction, goes around the world and comes out from below.
The different universes are all separate space-time continuums. That would make the universes of the Silver Sea Low 2-C, and not 3-A.
It's also said that deeper layers are more powerful than shallow layers. Here are some statements to explain the difference between layers:
From chapter 493 of the WN.
"In this little world, which exists deeper than your little world, the power of all things is in another dimension. Strength, speed, stubbornness, magic, everything. Even a grain of air is a weight to you. If I unleash a spell to destroy your shallow world, it won't be able to destroy a single ship here."
What this means in the context of the story is that a spell capable of destroying an entire world in a shallow layer, meaning a Low 2-C structure, isn't capable of destroying an ordinary object in a deeper layer.
"But in that earlier game I was holding back. Even after I went easy on him, the man (Lay) couldn't keep up with my speed."
In this fight, Lay, who has FTL speeds, wasn't able to keep up with a deeper world inhabitant who was holding back, which supports the fact that deeper layers are in another dimension compared to shallow layers.
"I thought I'd been thrown off by the sheer force of the blast, but I didn't know that the hull of the ship was unscathed. It is indeed stronger than the matter of my world."
This statement says that even the matter that makes up a deeper layer is in another dimension compared to that of a shallow layer.
The difference between layers doesn't just apply to physical stuff. Anos is extremely strong, capable of overpowering some deeper world inhabitants with his strength, and is also a "misfit", which means he has Acausality type 4, yet his spells are mostly useless in deeper layers. He should be strong enough to overpower deeper world inhabitants with his spells, yet the only way Anos can make his spells useful again is by "deepening" them, which means non-physical stuff like spells are also affected by the difference in layers.
E.g. <Dogda Azbedara>: Supreme Flame Magic Heavy Cannon. Highly explosive flame magic that trails towards the enemy in the form of a blue star. As a deep magic, its power is far beyond <Jio Graze>, to the point that it's not even comparable.
From chapter 579 of the WN.
"Fire and dew is the order of life. Its quantity is the foundation of the Small World, which determines the depth of the world. It is no exaggeration to say that Silver Water Shogi uses the Small World itself as its pawns."
"Using the fire and dew as pawns would indeed be equivalent to using the world itself as a pawn."
"If you lose the fire and dew, the world will be destroyed."
"You're going to deal with 169 small worlds. Head of the Militia World, Anos Voldigoad."
Deeper world inhabitants see shallow worlds as shogi pieces. To explain, they are using 169 universes from a shallow layer as pawns in a game of shogi, currently being played in a deeper layer. Fire and dew make up the different worlds, and the amount of fire and dew in a world is directly responsible for determining in which layer the world is in.
If a shogi piece is destroyed, the corresponding universe is destroyed, since they're the same thing.
With all these statements, I believe that a deeper layer qualifies as a higher level of existence. Since the Silver Sea has 99+ layers, meaning 100 layers at minimum, I also think it qualifies as a 1-B structure.
Currently, the Post-Silver Sea characters have all ventured at least 21 layers deeper in the Silver Sea, giving them 21 levels into 1-B.
Venuzdonoa, which can destroy all of creation, as well as Anos who is superior to it, also gain 100 levels into 1-B.
**Giving them "possibly 1-B" is also fine.
Anos Voldigoad Upgrades
- Corrosion Inducement
Anos' blood corrodes the world.
- Absorption
Anos was able to absorb Graham's source into his source, and after absorbing Graham, he "inherited" magic spells that only Graham could use.
- Resistance to Regeneration Negation (High-Godly)
From chapter 556 of the WN.
"Kostoria's principle destroying sword is swung down on the defenceless Sasha. The dark-coloured blade slashed diagonally from her shoulder to her torso. A deadly blow that destroyed even the roots. However, Sasha, who seemed to be torn apart, was unharmed-- Her principle destroying sword destroyed that reason..."
Both Sasha and Kostoria were wielding Venuzdonoa in this fight. We already know that Venuzdonoa denies regeneration up to High-Godly just by being summoned. Sasha's roots were destroyed by an attack from Venuzdonoa, but she then used Venuzdonoa to regen her roots while the other Venuzdonoa was still around.
Since she could perform High-Godly regen, not by herself but by using Venuzdonoa, while another Venuzdonoa was around, it's safe to say that Venuzdonoa grants it's wielder Resistance to Regeneration Negation.
- Graham's source
It's already been established that Anos absorbed Graham's source, and there after he gained Graham's abilities. Anos can freely use and manipulate Graham's source, which is absorbed into his own source. Since his source is basically the same as Graham's, he would gain any abilities that is related to Graham's source, like Resistance to Regeneration Negation and Resistance to Immortality Negation.
The Cosmology Upgrades and Anos Voldigoad Upgrades are separate, so please specify what you agree/disagree with.
Agree: @Dereck03, @Rustobal10 @Yar_R_agi_7k @Ian2296 (Anos Voldigoad Upgrades) @XRizkyx @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless (Anos Voldigoad Upgrades) @Bernkastelll @Great_king_frog @Hatamao
Disagree: @Rikimarox2 (1-B stuff) @Lapsad (1-B stuff) @Guileal (1-B stuff) @Planck69 (1-B stuff) @Delta333 (1-B stuff) @Ned_the_outer_god (1-B stuff)
Neutral: @Vietthai96 @Ian2296 (1-B stuff)
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