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Honestly, solid or possibly doesnt even matter to me, Boros being Low 5-B already is good
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OPM Minor Revisions and a Possible Boros Upgrade.
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It says she "tries" to fight back, and questions if it was effective.
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ye, simply questioning is not a thing that can be used lol
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I was just replying to the other guy who asked about it.
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But it is implied that her casual barrage wouldn't be enough.
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"If this attack fails humanity will have no alternatives"
On second thought this doesn't imply casual.
On second thought this doesn't imply casual.
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Yes you absolutely do.
On what grounds will you discard the WoG? Because you feel like it? Nah. Prove it's not appliable anymore, otherwise it is.
I need to validate a statement from a reliable source because ????????????
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It wasn't, there was a blast, and the ship was undamaged. Can you show me the damage afterwards, please? Not to be confused with Boros' damage to said ship.
Untrue.
Which means the Ship is at the very least relative to her. Boros still scales above her regardless.
Nah, you conceded already.
Ahem,
"That's completely irrelevant to my point", the thing is, Tatsumaki throwing rubble around is nothing compared to the ship and Genos' statement hold no weight
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Databook says planet too-
GodlyCharmander
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It doesn't. It says it can "ruin" the Earth, not destroy it in it's entirety. We went over this already.
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Her casual AP, sure. Not her full power that she was absolutely not displaying. Nothing here implies that the ship scales to or above her full power, and you can’t scale Boros above her full power based on that.
Tatsumaki re-yeets all of the shells back into the ship and deals all this damage to it. Boros had only just gone into his Released form a few pages prior and had not done anything to the ship yet. I can even post all the pages from Boros going Released into Tatsumaki re-directing the shells if you need that.
As I noted before, the sides of the ship are bursting and there’s even damage coming from the top of the ship. I even circled all the points of damage for you. Again, Boros had not done any damage to the ship at this point. This was all Tatsumaki. This was all in Chapter 34, by the way.
Then we get to Chapter 35, Tatsumaki does this, further damaging the ship and terrifying the people on board. Also note that she has an extremely bored expression, showing that she’s not trying that hard or going all-out. Boros still has not done any damage to the ship at this point. In fact, the next time we see Boros, he’s swapping hands with Saitama, still in the throne room. This is the first time they reach the outside of the ship, and it’s after Tatsumaki already did her stuff. Only after that does Boros do any major damage to his ship. Again, I can post every page leading up to this if you need it.
All of the damage Tatsumaki did was her own doing. Boros had not done any damage when she performed those feats.
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That is craaazy, all this dust and fire that did absolutely nothing to the infrastructure of the ship itself and didn't even faze it.
Here's a shot from the ship not ten pages after
Despise the fire blast caused by Boros, the ship is intact
Here is another shot from Chapter 36, ignoring Meteoric Burst's damage, we have nothing on the sides, nothing busted open where Tatsumaki threw rubble earlier, nor where she is curretly throwing rubble!
Way to manipulate the narrative, those are impact shots, and the fire caused by friction didn't damage the ship at all.
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GodlyCharmander
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By the way, this whole exchange with Boros and Saitama lasted 5 long lasting minutes, and this entire time, Tatsumaki didn't do anything significant even though she was continously attacking it with the same "rubble that damaged the ship"? N A H
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Okay, now you’re straight-up just lying. Explain right now why the people on the ship are screaming and terrified if no damage was done to it. Explain why it is blatantly stated that the cannons were destroyed if the ship didn’t take any damage. You keep ignoring that part.
So are we gonna ignore that the part on the side of the ship that was bursting is obscured by the thrusters? We just gonna ignore that part? And in the scan you posted before that, it isn’t even showing the side where it started bursting.
She threw the stuff at the bottom of the ship and there’s damage on the top and the sides. Those aren’t impacts. And to say they didn’t damage the ship at all is blatantly false and contradicted by what the people on the ship are saying, so I’d appreciate if you didn’t claim I’m “manipulating the narrative” when you’re ignoring very clear and obvious statements.
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Ah yes, because completely destroying the cannons is basically just paint chipping.
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Ayo, remember how this was supposed to be a minor revision?
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Well the Boros part is seperate from the “minor” part of the title so it doesn’t count UwU
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Cannons =/= Ship itself.
She didn't do anything besides this, which she did in the first second.
Oh yes, please, show it to me, circle it, because there's NO DAMAGE WHERE YOU SHOWED BEFORE. Which is my point.
"Those aren't impacts", ah yes, the rubble being throw and exploding into dust is not impact, it's actually the metal being ripped apart, we can clearly see that-- Oh wait, we can't.
There is not statement of Tatsumaki destroy the ship itself besides the cannons. They said "we're going to die", and it was JUST THE PEOPLE WHO OPERATE THE CANNONS, not the entire ship. They were at the bottom, where the cannons were, they have the right to fear for their lives.
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Not gonna lie, it seems to be. These cannons are such a minuscule part of the ship--
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Why would the cannons be massively less durable than the rest of the ship?
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It’s a part of the ship and she is damaging it, so saying she did not do any damage to the ship is a blatant lie.
The part I showed before is literally not visible in the panels you gave. I don’t think you’re understanding that part. You literally cannot see it because the big ass thrusters are taking up a large part of the foreground.
Completely misinterpreting what I just said, nice. Read what I said again, and read it carefully.
That is still a part of the ship.
But if Tatsumaki did zero damage to anything beside the cannons, like you claim, what do they have to worry about? All of the cannons have already been destroyed, and if Tatsumaki can’t get through the hull, wouldn’t they be perfectly safe?
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No it says 'erase' the Earth. Yeah that thread is garbage.
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5-B Boros? 
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I’m about to have dinner and I can’t keep writing these scriptures during that lmao, so I won’t be able to respond to anything for like a couple of hours
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I’m indifferent to Low 5-B Boros via upscaling from Orochi off Saitama’s statements but scaling the ship to Tatsumaki’s full power when she wasn’t trying is preeeetty dumb
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Tatsumaki did damage the ship with her somewhat casual attacks. Now, does this mean the statement of her not being easily able to take down the ship is incorrect? No, unless it is proven that she can do it without difficulty. So, at the very least, we should bring that statement as a supporting evidence. Nothing more. Not that it is very important tho.
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The statement isn't contradicted by anything, so the ship should scale to her full power. I'm sure she can bring it down, but if she can't do it without difficulty, that implies the ship can be a challenge for Tatsumaki's full power.
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And Boros should be "At least Low 5-B" not just "Possibly Low 5-B"
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That said....this Orochi calc has...some problems.
Here's a few of them:
A. Timeframe being a few seconds to a minute doesn't really make sense. A lot of shaking happens on the global scale and volcanoes erupt well before Orochi gets his energy. Due to this as well it's likely the magma ball lost some mass if inactive volcanoes erupted due to either the pulling or earthquakes.
B. 30 seconds or less would only work if it was a Mag 5-6 and 'the very biggest quakes' last several minutes
And the fact it shook the entire planet more violently than Saitama shook the MA base would definitely be a high end quake. This would drastically lower speed. Several would mean bare minimum like 3-4 minutes.
C. I don't see why the new quake was added to the old quake rather than just doing the new quake. That doesn't feel necessary when the new quake is larger.
D. Stopping Earth from moving and splitting it in half are 5-C and Low 5-B respectively but aside from the shaking and eruptions (which are WAY lower in energy) the planet's fine. I dunno if we accept the OPM Earth as just super durable or something (which amps Boros anyway) but....
Here's a recalc I did which....is still probably high but not breaking sense high
If these problems are accounted for though then Low 5-B (or higher) OPM works just fine.
Here's a few of them:
A. Timeframe being a few seconds to a minute doesn't really make sense. A lot of shaking happens on the global scale and volcanoes erupt well before Orochi gets his energy. Due to this as well it's likely the magma ball lost some mass if inactive volcanoes erupted due to either the pulling or earthquakes.
B. 30 seconds or less would only work if it was a Mag 5-6 and 'the very biggest quakes' last several minutes
And the fact it shook the entire planet more violently than Saitama shook the MA base would definitely be a high end quake. This would drastically lower speed. Several would mean bare minimum like 3-4 minutes.
C. I don't see why the new quake was added to the old quake rather than just doing the new quake. That doesn't feel necessary when the new quake is larger.
D. Stopping Earth from moving and splitting it in half are 5-C and Low 5-B respectively but aside from the shaking and eruptions (which are WAY lower in energy) the planet's fine. I dunno if we accept the OPM Earth as just super durable or something (which amps Boros anyway) but....
Here's a recalc I did which....is still probably high but not breaking sense high
If these problems are accounted for though then Low 5-B (or higher) OPM works just fine.
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the feat literally happend almost instantly, because in the moment that the feat happend, everyone noticed it and all the earthquakes yada yada happend across the world
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Yeah.....that takes a lot of time though....especially with bigger ones. I literally looked up how long earthquakes last. Bigger quake=longer shake.
Point B shows that.
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but it didnt took in the manga, it happend instantly
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I mean.....it can still work.....it's just kinda weird that it didn't do more damage.
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It really didn't though....also instantly got like higher than Earth's GBE which would make everyone 5-B
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One thing I just noticed, the scale of Boros's single energy blast far outweigh the scale of Tatsumaki's barrage.
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instantly I mean really quick, as all the earthquakes happend even before orochi charged himself with the energy of the core
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Child emperor was surprised by it. Even after seeing Tatsumaki reflect the bullets.
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Yeah and they stopped before he got it
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