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You're implying a perfectionist like Murata is making Tatsumaki have power jumps for no reason? My guy, this is a Seinei, not a Shounen
She was already as strong as she is today, but she NEVER got to show it.
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OPM Minor Revisions and a Possible Boros Upgrade.
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She was already as strong as she is today, but she NEVER got to show it.
GodlyCharmander
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That's not true, the method would require more KE than the Ship can handle.
Not the point whatsoever.
GodlyCharmander
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We're not scaling it. We're not giving it any tier, nor are we saying the ship was superior to Saitama's punches.
Although it should be a case-by-case basis, we have a whole god damn statement praising the ship's durability for tanking Saitama who was intending to break stuff.
We just throw it away?
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Yes. People's ideals about scale, drawing, and ideas of fights change over time. in-universe she's no stronger now than she was back then, but the statement is around the same time that he said he said Orochi could fight Tornado and other stuff we know is just not true.
GodlyCharmander
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Fair.
Wait, we don't even take Murata's statements at face value unless it has ONE's confirmation. But the statement just implies that Tatsumaki couldn't take down the ship easily. That doesn't really contradict anything, so what's the implication that ONE's intentions would have changed if the encounter happened now? As you said, she isn't any stronger than she was before in-canon.
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In all honesty, I don’t see what you’re getting at here. How would this not just be a matter of Tatsumaki’s LS?
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Because ONE has also had the same artistic shifts I mentioned with Murata.
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You said Saitama’s normal punches aren’t capable of taking the ship down as if it was a point, so-
GodlyCharmander
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Case-by-case, can you prove this particular intention changed?
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I think threat levels are far more credible(especially since they are confirmed by author) than anything else and therefore we don't need harder stuff
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There's more tier 6 and 5 feats in the last 20 chapters than in the 90 before it. The most recent redraw has Orochi casually preform a feat that is thousands of times greater than the previous five best feats combined.
Like they've increased the scale by a massive amount.
GodlyCharmander
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O k a y. Boros will scale to that. Nice information. Hope you know manga aren't made with math in mind.
Can you prove ONE's intentions about Tatsumaki not being able to easily overpower the ship changed? Because this whole thing you said is non-sequitur to the point.
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In my opinion, we shouldn't discard a quote from Murata only because it's old, especially considering that there is nothing contradicting it.
We have no evidence that Tatsumaki would have been able to take down the ship since she didn't do it, so I don't see why that can't be used as a supporting evidence at the very least.
We have no evidence that Tatsumaki would have been able to take down the ship since she didn't do it, so I don't see why that can't be used as a supporting evidence at the very least.
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She badly damaged it while casual and barely trying, and everyone on-board the ship thought they were gonna die, so yeah, there is evidence that she could potentially take it down. You’d have to provide evidence that says she 100% can’t bring it down.
Also since when has “they didn’t do it, so they 100% cannot do it” been valid evidence? By that logic, the CSRC isn’t a surface-wiper because it didn’t wipe the surface.
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Bad argument, it was stated that it could
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But it didn’t. So by the logic in the previous post, it can’t.
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it was stated that it could, it only didnt because it was overpowered, do u have scan of tatsumaki being stated that could destroy the ship or something?
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Tatsumaki was never stated to be able to bring down the ship.
The CSRC, instead, was said by multiple sources that is indeed a surface wiping attack.
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That's false.
She damaged the cannons, and the ones responsible for it were worried for their lives. She never did flying shit to the ship itself.
"everyone on-board"
That's a blatant lie.
No, there isn't.
Don't have to prove a negative. She is far more likely not being able to do so based on the statement at the time.
No one is saying 100%, that's strawman. CSRC have multiple statements and evidence saying it could. But Plot exists, and it didn't have the opportunity to do so. Are you gonna say Tatsu had no opportunity to **** the ship up?
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Actually Genos implied that she could and the people on the ship thought they were gonna die, so at the bare minimum, she can do an immense amount of damage to the ship.
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Genos has no ******* clue the kind of power the ship or the invasor has. He is also implying she could defeat Boros based on what she was doing, which was nothing compared to the ship and Boros.
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Ahem. Also she directly stated that her intention was specifically to return the cannon fire and not bring the whole thing down (which would also be stupid because, y’know, everyone is under it), so…
Her feats say otherwise.
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Saying it’s nothing compared to the ship is blatantly incorrect. Are you trying to imply that the people on the ship were freaking out over nothing and Tatsumaki didn’t do any major damage to it?
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I mean from reliable source
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GodlyCharmander
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The blast she caused did nothing. Unless you're implying that one fire thingy ontop of the ship is her doing? The intentions were to bring it down.
Oh yeah, and those feats are enough to take it down because?
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Also, Genos said ''She may could'', which is way worse than saying that She can
and genos isnt reliable
and genos isnt reliable
GodlyCharmander
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Oh yeah, the ship that could withstand a Multi-Continental jump from Saitama, suuure, her showings in this particular chapter were exceptional!!!
"the people on the ship"
Only the ones who are responsible for the cannons. Do you think everyone is kept at a particular place? The ****?
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Yeah, Genos was saying what Tatsu did could be enough to take down Boros, bruh.
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Seriously, why is people taking Genos as reliable source? Genos literally said that Gouketsu strength approach Saitama
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So are you gonna ignore how we can clearly see the sides of the ship bursting as well? Also you were already told and shown that she was able to damage the cannons of the ship so I dunno why you’re acting like she can’t deal significant damage to it.
Her casual attacks caused significant damage to it. Also if you paid attention, you would note that I said she could potentially take it down. I didn’t state for a fact that she could. The point is that saying the ship’s durability scales anywhere near her full strength is faulty.
Are you aware that it’s accepted that the ship didn’t take the full impact of the moon jump? That’s the reason it doesn’t have High 6-A durability.
That’s literally irrelevant to my point.
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I fail to see how damaging the canons = significantly affect the ship itself
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U sent no reliable source about it, ur proof was Genos saying ''she may can do it'', but Genos is literally the dude who said that Gouketsu was in a whole different dimension and dangerous even to Saitama
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Other translation:U sent no reliable source about it, ur proof was Genos saying ''she may can do it'', but Genos is literally the dude who said that Gouketsu was in a whole different dimension and dangerous even to Saitama
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I don't really need too in order to discount old WoG. You would need to prove why its still valid that, not the other way around.
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There is nothing that contradicts that quote, from what I remember, so I don't see why it can't be used as a supportive evidence at the very least.
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So you’re just gonna COMPLETELY ignore that the people on the damn ship were terrified when she attacked it, huh? There a reason that you’re not acknowledging that, or…?U sent no reliable source about it, ur proof was Genos saying ''she may can do it'', but Genos is literally the dude who said that Gouketsu was in a whole different dimension and dangerous even to Saitama
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I wasn't against it being used. I said as much in my original comment
The issue I have is people trying to make him just Low 5-B.
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I’m gonna just restate that I have no problems with Meteoric Burst Boros being ‘possibly Low 5-B,’ the OP’s thing of Saitama calling him strong while not saying anything like that about Orochi is fine.
What I have a problem with is saying Tatsumaki absolutely can’t bring down his ship and using that as evidence.
What I have a problem with is saying Tatsumaki absolutely can’t bring down his ship and using that as evidence.
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Only thing is the databook questioning if she even could.
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In my opinion he is a solid Low 5-B based on all the evidences that there are, like the Saitama statements, the ship thing and the fact that he is the only really confirmed "above dragon" which would put him in a category above Orochi.
However, I understand why it can cause some problems to give him a straight Low 5-B, so I wont oppose to a simple "Possibly". There is always time to do some modifications to the profile in the future, if more solid evidences are brought up.
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