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One Piece Lifting Strength Revision
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What's the justification for it again?
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Should be fine then if it has no anti-feats.
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It’s a bit controversial, but I think it makes sense...
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That sounds a lot like an NLF. It should be limited to the feats Blackbeard has displayed.
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I'm gonna have to agree with damage for once.
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I'm using the "everything" as support for infinite.
It's just lifting, I'm just saying that it should be that high for only his Devil Fruit.
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I'm not entirely sure it's LS, but then again, it's similar to how some profiles mention Telekinesis separate from physicals, so that would be fine
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Everything doesn't mean anything on its own it doesn't help that his display is just sucking in a small village afterwards
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So can we stop focusing on the everything and focus on the infinite?
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ok so infinite in that context is literally stating infinite gravity which would be high 3-A so yeah unless you try to upgrade him to that level no
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We are giving his lifting strength infinite force. It is not applicable for AP. It’s just saying he can pull everyone between tier 10 and tier 3 lifting
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so his dark fruit can emit tier 3 force
Why would he want whitebeard fruit then if he has a tier 3 pulling ability which can be used for large scale destruction he could literally suck in and beat every enemy of his with it
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His fruit doesn't emit tier 3 destructive force, it can just pull in anything.
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at tier 3 levels which is tier 3 destructive force
heck if he pulled anything at infinite gravity levels he would need high 3-A dura since it sometimes hits him when being sped up by infinite gravity
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Talking to you is like talking to a wall. He’s not EMITTING tier 3 destructive force, he can just pull in anything inside from it. Of course it’s controversial as a whole, but it’s stated to do so, and there’s no anti-feats for it. Durability doesn’t matter here, you should know that from watching the show. He can nullify whitebeards quakes with his fruit, but HE himself can still be hurt by it. Your logic is flawed.
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Anyways after tempest talking, I’m neutral.
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I'm the wall you guys are saying he is emmiting High 3-A force with gravity which has consequences yet you want to ignore them
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Relax. This was unnecessary.
There are characters who have tier 8 lifting. They don’t destroy buildings.
And no they don’t. And if that’s the logic, we’d just call that an outlier.
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I just said he’s not, he’s stated to be able to pull in anything, so you have to debunk that as a whole instead of putting words in other peoples mouth. I’m neutral, and I know you’re full of crap.
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There is no emission from Blackbeard's Yami, it's quite literally the reverse. He pulls and sucks things in, not the reverse which would be "emitting High 3-A energy."
Agree strongly with BB getting the rating via Black-Hole. Kinda how Black-holes work irl, can't really dispute this based upon shitty flawed logic and a very bad understanding of the verse. Not saying names but you know who you are and what you do.
Agree strongly with BB getting the rating via Black-Hole. Kinda how Black-holes work irl, can't really dispute this based upon shitty flawed logic and a very bad understanding of the verse. Not saying names but you know who you are and what you do.
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His ability to pull things in with his fruit doesn't harm anybody as shown by the fact despite he can pull in an entire town regular fodder marines are unaffected by being pulled inside.
So no it doesn't require tier 3 destructive force nor does it output tier 3 destructive force.
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I appreciate the support, but let’s be respectful.
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so using one part but the not other how about characters not being instantly sucked in by so called infinite gravity
A black hole doesn't have infinite mass so you are contradicting what you are supporting
and yes infinite gravity would create infinite energy as stuff gets sucked in the only reason black holes don't have this is their singularity is theorized to be a point
infinite gravity on its own requires it why would blackbeard hold back against his clear enemies
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Who says he's holding back against his enemies?
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Because infinite gravity is high 3-A in the damage it can do and it clearly did not obliterate his enemies
also now you guys are switching up your responses so this is going to become confusing for me
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Have we ever given Infinite lifting strength to another character on this basis?
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stop bringing up damage.
No one is talking about damage.
This is just how much he can pull
No one is talking about damage.
This is just how much he can pull
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Exactly why I’m still neutral about it. Damage makes a point here.
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I don't know what else to tell you other than the fact the yami yami literally doesn't function that way.
Try reading what I said next time:
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You want him to get infinite gravity yet you don't expect infinite gravity to kill someone
Sorry but by default infinite gravity speeds things up to infinite speed
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Not of my knowledge.
His argument works for any tier above Class 5. Why aren’t they destroying much every time they pull something
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Based on WHAT?
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Pulling something with Infinite gravity will result in that thing dying you even compared it to a black hole
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That is how gravity works
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Show me where I'm contradicting myself, and I know they don't have infinite mass, which again i want you to point out me saying. Black-Holes have infinite density, the mass itself is finite, the gravitational field itself is also infinite.
I want you to repeat yourself and read what I high lighted again. Black Holes don't produce infinite energy, stay in school fr. No they don't, you pulled that out your ass.
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I guess we gotta start correlating lifting with telekinesis to dura now since this has never been an issue
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And if you actually read what I said you'd realise that's not how the fruit functions whether he has infinite lifting strength or class M lifting strength.
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