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One Piece Lifting Strength Revision

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LordGinSama said:
Headlocks don't require a lot of force, when you put someone in a headlock it asphyxiates them, either via blocking air or blood flow. A more appropriate examples would be full blown joint locks and submissions where you overpower someone down for an extended period period of time.


Not really sure on the Marco 2x thing, makes sense to a certain degree if King and Queen moved in unison.
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Any suggestions for the missing ratings before I throw on a bunch of unknowns?

Also, who are we missing?
 
KingTempest said:
Any suggestions for the missing ratings before I throw on a bunch of unknowns?

Also, who are we missing?
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On the sandbox? If you mean that then here's who's missing:
Nami
Usopp
Buggy
Alvida
Mihawk
Pearl
Zala
Babe
Drophy
Bon Clay
Perona
Tsuru
Shiryu
 
Sandbox looks good from a glance

Just need to fix Chopper’s rating as the last two keys have ’Class M’ instead of ’Class G’. Zunesha needs to have his calc linked to just justification. And add Mihawk‘s Lifting Strength and justification as his section is blank. Drophy‘s section need to replace the ‘he’ with ’she’. First key and Second key Moria needs to change from Class M to Class G since Absalom is Class G
 
KingTempest said:
Oda said in One Piece 10th Treasures that Usopp is the weakest because he's closest to a regular human from all the other SHs.
He's the weakest.
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That’s not the problem I have… it’s having brook in the same tier as usopp and nami even tho he is all bone… also being closest to a regular human =|= being human lvl lifting strength… 🤔

would this qualify as lifting strength?
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Monkey.

Closest to a regular human = weakest.

They are stronger than Usopp.

And that is not lifting strength
 
KobsterHope07 said:
Sandbox looks good from a glance

Just need to fix Chopper’s rating as the last two keys have ’Class M’ instead of ’Class G’. Zunesha needs to have his calc linked to just justification. And add Mihawk‘s Lifting Strength and justification as his section is blank. Drophy‘s section need to replace the ‘he’ with ’she’. First key and Second key Moria needs to change from Class M to Class G since Absalom is Class G
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Thanks, fixed
 
Oh yeah, I just noticed this bit:

Stated to be the strongest creature in the world, which means that he's stronger than Zunesha
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We had a thread a year ago that removed Kaido directly scaling to Zunesha. The thread was primarily about Kaido's AP scaling to Zunesha, but I think that the same arguments could apply for Lifting Strength too.
 
KingTempest said:
I sent something regarding Zunesha swinging the mass of his trunk.
Recently we’ve gotten a volume statement about Kaido truly being the strongest creature. Volume 95.
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Can we scale Kaido's lifting strength to the mass of Zunesha's trunk now because of this?
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This directly counters that because it has a blatant statement of Kaido being the strongest without hearsay
 
KingTempest said:
This directly counters that because it has a blatant statement of Kaido being the strongest without hearsay
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That's not a statement about Lifting Strength.

As we've both agreed on other CRT's in the past I believe, "strength" doesn't always refer to pure physical strength. People don't call Kaido the "strongest creature in the world" because he can bench-press the most weight of anyone. It's because of how unbeatable he is and how in a one-on-one fight, he's the most likely to win.
 
Damage3245 said:
That's not a statement about Lifting Strength.

As we've both agreed on other CRT's in the past I believe, "strength" doesn't always refer to pure physical strength. People don't call Kaido the "strongest creature in the world" because he can bench-press the most weight of anyone. It's because of how unbeatable he is and how in a one-on-one fight, he's the most likely to win.
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In the context of Kaido, who has been emphasized for his physical strength throughout the show (when he smacks people with physical attacks), the context points towards physicals above everything else.

Kaido has been beaten 7 times by pirates and has been captured over 18 times by Marines. It doesn't refer to his "unbeatable"ness, because that's contradicted.

Regardless, I'll add the "comparable to Big Mom" in his justification
 
In the context of Kaido, who has been emphasized for his physical strength throughout the show (when he smacks people with physical attacks), the context points towards physicals above everything else.
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When we're given the statement, it is in the context of Kaido being able to beat anyone in a one-on-one fight.

Kaido has been beaten 7 times by pirates and has been captured over 18 times by Marines. It doesn't refer to his "unbeatable"ness, because that's contradicted.
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We don't know anything about those battles. It's very likely that he was defeated because those weren't one-on-one fights.
 
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