You said this, what else could you have meant by "reading movements" you're trying to downplay luffy.
The person I was responding to, GodlyCharmander, said that, and I was continuing to engage in his hypothetical.
I do not care one iota about whether Luffy did it with haki or not, and I don't know how to evaluate whether he did. I'm just responding to people in the thread using the words that they use. Go argue with Godly if you want to discuss this point.
Because of the statement and what hes referring to with that statement... You are talking about an interpretation of luffys movement speed with the laser...
It's not just using a different interpretation, it's using a whole different method which does not use assumptions or as much assumptions as the thing you are talking about, it's luffy calling the laser slow while it's moving
I don't really understand what you're saying here.
Why are you guys arguing on luffy's movement speed using pixel calc or an assumption based on how much he moved to dodge it. That doesn't matter even if he were moving slower than light speed which I don't think he was, the light attack was certainly moving at ls. And luffy saw that as slow, therefore his reaction speed should be above ls. Plus wasn't this about if observation haki users automatically qualify for lightspeed reaction?
Reaction speed requires movement.
Having SoL perception speed requires being able to process that a lightspeed object has started moving before it has traveled more than 1 meter.
Because it's grasping at straws. Plain and simple. We are not saying Luffy should follow the laser with his eyes and slow motion like he's in that one Spider-Man scene, or like he's Barry Allen.
Furthermore, this is a non-issue, we don't see the "before" or "present", the panel just show us the aftermath. Luffy may have been looking at the laser and when it got past him, just threw the line. Of course it's jutdt a hypothesis. We have no way of knowing, so it's a moot point for both sides.
I saw other people arguing otherwise, but if you think it's a moot point, I'm fine with dropping it.
You see, this can go both ways, it may go upwards as well. But you do agree that putting your character at a situation where he says "X thing is slow" is a direct indicative that your character is not slower than said thing, right? Why would Oda send mixed messages to the viewer, this doesn't make sense from a writing standpoint which we do have to consider.
I've repeated this over and over again, but to say it one more time.
"X thing is slow" is a different statement than dodging X and saying "Too slow".
Yes, the object being referred to is X, but the context is different.
A lot of times, characters call something "too slow" to mean "that object is moving at a speed which is insufficient to hit me", and that can occur while being slower than the object, if the object's movements are telegraphed.
I don't think it's sending mixed messages to fall into that really common trope.
Or in other words, "Slow" does not always mean "Slower than me", it can mean "Not fast enough to deal with me".
... Idk, bye
