Scottycj256
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cuz DMC4 Nero is still Island level with Devil Trigger, and also has Yamato which can neg durability and cut space
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Nero (Devil May Cry 5) vs Nero (Fate/EXTRA)
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Just a note on Ragtime, its 2x above baseline.
God Tiers are resistant to DWE time stop, and Bangle of Time which bypasses resistances to DWE.
And Ragtime still works on Vergil.
Yeah soul hax is useless though.
God Tiers are resistant to DWE time stop, and Bangle of Time which bypasses resistances to DWE.
And Ragtime still works on Vergil.
Yeah soul hax is useless though.
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Well, DMC1 Dante is good on that tier and is a good character for matches there too..
Well, maybe, but not sure gonna wait for more opinion about this.
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If someone can explain why she has 1-A resistances when only Void Shiki should have them, then I'd love to hear it.
Regardless, DMC Nero resists Statistics Reduction via resisting the Demon World's passive effects. His Time Stop bypasses mutiple levels of Resistances
DMC5 Nero is >>>> 10 Gigatons, since he scales above Trish who is above the one who did the Island Level feat. Fate Nero is 26 gigatons, so they're about even with a likely lean towards DMC Nero, but DMC Nero's regen negates any sort of AP factor here since he just... recovers.
DMC5 Nero has a massive advantage with his Breaker Arms, which can be used to Boost his AP, or Stop Time beyond what Fate Nero can resist, or evade.
Basically, the fight goes on for a while then DMC5 Nero stops time and ends it.
Voting DMC5 Nero even without soulhax.
Regardless, DMC Nero resists Statistics Reduction via resisting the Demon World's passive effects. His Time Stop bypasses mutiple levels of Resistances
DMC5 Nero is >>>> 10 Gigatons, since he scales above Trish who is above the one who did the Island Level feat. Fate Nero is 26 gigatons, so they're about even with a likely lean towards DMC Nero, but DMC Nero's regen negates any sort of AP factor here since he just... recovers.
DMC5 Nero has a massive advantage with his Breaker Arms, which can be used to Boost his AP, or Stop Time beyond what Fate Nero can resist, or evade.
Basically, the fight goes on for a while then DMC5 Nero stops time and ends it.
Voting DMC5 Nero even without soulhax.
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My only issue with that is how much higher is Fate Nero's AP when she uses her NP?
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Not enough to prevent Nero killing her while time is stopped. It isn't a one-shot level boost.
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Isn't she comparable to A Rank servants?
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This is actually the first time i heard that, so yeah i wanna know where's that come from
Also welcome back, Knight
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I'm still not available for all the time I'd like to be, but thanks
This is also assuming she doesn't get hit by any of Nero's more deadly AP boosting arms, like the Buster Arm, which would likely just rip her apart.
With her NPs, but she still has to get around time getting stopped. She also still isn't gonna cross the gap between her and Paul Bunyan with them.
This is also assuming she doesn't get hit by any of Nero's more deadly AP boosting arms, like the Buster Arm, which would likely just rip her apart.
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Eh, fair
Nero for the reasons in the sun
Nero for the reasons in the sun
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I'm a walking 4-C lmao
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BTW dude you have a discord? Been meaning to talk to ya
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Yeah, I'll message you on your wall
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Deadweight FRA
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Nero FRA
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The time stop can be used only one time because after that it broke, right? Because Red Saber revive at least three times with Thrice-Setting Sun, and I'm pretty sure after die one time she will go with everything she can, which mean that she will obtain skills that increase more her stats, including MR, via Imperial Privilege.
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What is MR?
Also Gold Orbs.....
Also Gold Orbs.....
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Magic Resistance.
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Well, Nero also has excellent Accelerated Dev,
And if current hax CRT is passes, he will get Reactive Evolution too.
But he doesn't have RE here....so definitely an MR is an advantage.
But he will become stronger after each fight too.
And if current hax CRT is passes, he will get Reactive Evolution too.
But he doesn't have RE here....so definitely an MR is an advantage.
But he will become stronger after each fight too.
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I honestly don't see RE be that effective considering that she also would grow stronger obtaining new skills with Imperial Privilege.
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He doesn't have RE yet, so its useless to discuss.
But like I said, Accelerated Dev allows him to maintain Status Quo of his AP advantage over Saber.
At which point he will realize that Incap is his best option, and knock her out.
Also his Ragtime has those slow bubbles which are summoned on enemy's person. He can do that without breaking Ragtime. He may not even need to use the Breakage move unless absolutely necessary. So there's a heavy chance he will retain its use for atleast one more round.
And I doubt MR is going to give her 2 layers of resistance to time stop.
But like I said, Accelerated Dev allows him to maintain Status Quo of his AP advantage over Saber.
At which point he will realize that Incap is his best option, and knock her out.
Also his Ragtime has those slow bubbles which are summoned on enemy's person. He can do that without breaking Ragtime. He may not even need to use the Breakage move unless absolutely necessary. So there's a heavy chance he will retain its use for atleast one more round.
And I doubt MR is going to give her 2 layers of resistance to time stop.
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As said, frozen time bubbles (which I would say are stronger that slow bubble) already is canceled by MR of Rand D, she by default have Rank C and that can be increased with other skills that also buff her stats, so I highly doubt the slow bubbles will work.
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Also, where is AD? I can't see that in the profile or in the demon page.
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Ragtime's Time Stop/Slow pierces Resistance by several layers; I doubt MR will do anything.
And he doesn't need to full stop, just slow her down so much he can effortlessly line up a deadly blow, especially since she doesn't have regen (at least not enough and not fast enough to recover from hard blows from Deadweight boy)
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Also, what's the limit on her Thrice Setting Sun? Has she come back from being ripped into literal pieces?
DMC5 Nero can easily end her if not.
DMC5 Nero can easily end her if not.
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Their initial Abilities are:
- Accelerated Development (Skill, Battle, Physical and Abilities) and Reactive Evolution (Can improve their skills extremely fast in combat, even against demons that have command of techniques that allow them to perceive patterns far beyond their opponent's abilities,they can receive more demonic/magic power every time he hits his opponents or takes damageand they can also adapt to anything that don't kill than instantly, gaining new powers, abilities and resistances against corresponding threats in mere seconds, like when adapted by transforming instinctively in Ultimate Devil Trigger to fight off Alice when she was sucking his life force,or when Vergil was capable of overcoming a dangerous demonic illusion created by a Sin that is capable of driving normal people insane, Dante was capable of instinctively adapting by semi-transforming in Ultimate Devil Trigger to fight off a Sin when he was striping away his blood. They are also capable of adapting to the hazardous environment of the Demon World, for example, when just being near of the evil dimension was enough to be affected by the powerful illusions that was messing with all his superhuman senses and that is also capable to reduce his strength when he enters inside there and he was still capable to quickly overcome all the illusions and his strength being reduced very fast , was show to be able to adapt to the "unearthly illness" which makes it difficult to concentrate and causes intense nausea and dizziness)
Sparda Section.
Lol I forgot he has RE, well it will be buffed after next CRT.
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Ah, I didn't saw that low, my bad there.
John985
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Using the world setting as resistance for time stop huh. Can use it for servant as well, but on much greater scale because its the moon cell.
Moon Cell Far side
Nothing else should be able to exist there because it is the territory of nil, and intelligent life forms should not be allowed or be able to exist there. It is not within normal time, allowing for a series of communications over eighteen days from Earth to take less than a microsecond within the timeframe of the Moon Cell.
Moon Cell Far side
Nothing else should be able to exist there because it is the territory of nil, and intelligent life forms should not be allowed or be able to exist there. It is not within normal time, allowing for a series of communications over eighteen days from Earth to take less than a microsecond within the timeframe of the Moon Cell.
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I think in that aspect is like the God Hand (just without the RE of God Hand) so yes, she should be able to revive after become pieces.
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Killing her 2nd time isn't even necessary, AP advantage + regen neg means he will injure her severely and straight up incap her.
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Has she ever done that, though? Afaik she's just recovered from stabs to vital organs, not being legitmately ripped in half like how Nero's Buster Arm can do
Nero's Time Stop works on being with Acausality Type 4. This is a moot point.
John985
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uhhhhhhh, all servant can already interact with them, and also every servant will get Acausality Type 4 as well.
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Acausality type 4 doesn’t prevent time stop guys...
That is exclusive to those that actually show it like Rakudai
That is exclusive to those that actually show it like Rakudai
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I don't see how that would help since Nero's time hax already bypasses this
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Oh really? I recall that being the case back when I was majorly active
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It isn’t, it’s only the case with those that have shown it.
Rakudai is an exception, not the rule
Rakudai is an exception, not the rule
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Well anyway you slice it, Nero maintains status quo of his advantage over Saber. Both in hax and AP. So.......
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Hax doesn't scale via tiers anymore
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Thank DTDT for that.
