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Because Rhongo is also a divine construct and also have the restrainst of Excalibur Proto.
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Nasuverse: Servant Base Stats and Noble Phantasm Conclusion
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Excalibur of arturia too and she don't scale. But anyways lion king is compared to king hassan when he was still a grand servant if i'm not wrong
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Excaliburn of Arturia don't have the Thirteen Restraints like Excalibur Proto.
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Artoria's Excalibur does still have restraints though
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She have it it show in her interlude
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Then should be mentioned in the profile because only Rhongo and Excalibur Proto mention the Thirteen Restraints. Still Rhongo faced Ozy, though is true that it was in her goddess form, but the function of the lance still stand.
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So I want to clairify, are all NPs lower than A+ rank going to be 6-C+ or only only A ranks and other exceptions such as Gae Bolg? Because I'm looking at the changes being made and it seems inconsistent.
List of A Rank NPs
List of A Rank NPs
- Arjuna's Agni Gandiva
- Yan Qing's Ambushed from Ten Sides - As If There Was No Shadow
- Summer Yu's Anti-Fling Rondo
- Napoleon's Arc de Triomphe de l'Étoile
- Lancelot's Arondight Overload
- Summer Marie's Crystal Dress
- BB's Cursed Cupid Cleanser
- Okitan's Decisive Blade - Endless Three-Stage
- Summer Kiyohime's Dojo-ji Bell Form 108 - Fire Dragon Mow Down
- Hektor's Durindana
- Edmond Dantes's Enfer Château d'If
- Tristan's Failnaught
- Nezha's Flying Bright Spirit - Fire-Tipped Spear
- Ganesha's Ganesha Vighneshvara
- Lu Bu's God Force
- Santa Karna's Graharāja Santa Cross and Winning Arkaputra
- Nemo's Great Ram Nautilus
- Marie's Guillotine Breaker
- Archer's Hrunting and Caladbolg II
- Red Hare's Imitation God Force
- Beni-enma's Judgment of the Ten Kings - Journey of the Wicker Basket
- Eresh's Kur Kigal Irkalla
- Sanson's La Mort Espoir
- Caenis's Lapithai Caeneus
- Summer Nero's Lauda Lentum Domus Illustrius
- Bunyan's Marvelous Exploits
- Watanabe's Mount Ooe - Enlightened Oni Slayer
- Caster Cu's Ochd Deug Odin
- Gorgon's Pandemonium Cetus
- Yagyu's Peerless in Swordsmanship - Zen and the Sword As One
- Altera's Photon Ray
- Sitonai's Pohjola Fimbul
- Summer Mordred's Prydwen Tube Riding
- David's Sacrifice
- Helena's Sanat Kumara
- Mandricaro's Serment de Durandal
- Europa's Sfyrí tou Tálos
- Musashi's Six Realms Five Rings - The Divine Figure of Kurikara
- Hougen's Six Secret Teachings and Three Strategies - Noble Demon King's Great Feather Fan
- Altlana's Tauropolos Skia Thermokrasia
- Hokusai's Thirty-six Views of Mount Fuji
- Meph's Ticktock Bomb
- Paris's Troia Velos
- Achilles's Troias Tragōidia
- Cleo's Uraeus Astrape
- Lucoa's Xiuhcoatl
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If an NP is lower than A+ but has its own legitimate scaling that doesnt badly **** up the scaling of many other NPs that can be applied/kept for them.
These tiers are basically supposed to represent the base tier of NPs at those ranks not the absolute tier of NPs at that rank.
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I get that but I'm seeing some NPs lower than A rank like Blut die Schwester being scaled to 6-C+ for no real reason while some actual A rank NPs like Sanat Kumara weren't upgrade to 6-C+ for some reason
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Hmm maybe thats just people messing up the scaling then?
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Island level+ for Rank A and below has been the consensus mentioned in the first page.
Early on Mitch changed Triple Crane Wing (a C Rank NP) from Small City level+ to Island level+ when applying the content revision.
If there is just a 'higher' for a NP of Rank A or lower, it is probably something that got missed.
Early on Mitch changed Triple Crane Wing (a C Rank NP) from Small City level+ to Island level+ when applying the content revision.
If there is just a 'higher' for a NP of Rank A or lower, it is probably something that got missed.
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In principle I don't think is bad to scale all Rank A and below in general to 6-C+, I mean, it make the things more easy to change and I would say that most of the low rank NP rely more in a special effect instead of destructive power so the instances in which they will be used it's because of that special characteristic, so the best is backscale them from the Rank A but there is no proposal for a number to backscale them, though if you have a better proposal for the low rank NP then say it.
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It seems that the crater was already existing near Camelot, and Muramasa was kicked down.
If Morgan created it with Rhongomyniad (she loves to casually use it), it woud solidify Lion King's rating pretty nicely.
Less than 50 profiles to go. It is my impression that there is a consensus that:
Any one disagrees?
So after finishing up the profiles, and resolving the 6-A scaling, I'll make a CRT to nuke Wall level Servants.
If Morgan created it with Rhongomyniad (she loves to casually use it), it woud solidify Lion King's rating pretty nicely.
Less than 50 profiles to go. It is my impression that there is a consensus that:
- We should downgrade dragon Sieg, and those who scale to him, from 6-A to Low 6-B
- We should downgrade Tear Drop Photon Ray, and those who scale to it, from 6-A to Low 6-B
Any one disagrees?
So after finishing up the profiles, and resolving the 6-A scaling, I'll make a CRT to nuke Wall level Servants.
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When you say “Nuke 9-B servants” what exactly do you mean? Do you mean you’ll upgrade them to 6-C cause im definitely gonna have to disagree with that for some of those servants that are very clearly shown to be below the other servants physically.
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Yep, virtually no exceptions. I am confident I'll make a persuasive argument, and I'll address potential criticisms based on Medea and Angra Mainyu.
Anyone finds an issue with:
Anyone finds an issue with:
- We should downgrade dragon Sieg, and those who scale to him, from 6-A to Low 6-B
- We should downgrade Teardrop Photon Ray, and those who scale to it, from 6-A to Low 6-B
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Hmm definitely iffy about that but ill wait till I see the CRT and read the arguments.
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Finished +250 profiles, with the exception of Saber Shiki since her profile is locked.
So later on I (or someone else) will provide a list for profiles affected by the Sieg and Teardrop downgrade, and then apply. This should conclude the content revision.
So later on I (or someone else) will provide a list for profiles affected by the Sieg and Teardrop downgrade, and then apply. This should conclude the content revision.
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Thank you for helping out. I have unlocked the page. Tell me here when you are done.
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Done.
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There's this
Plus Sigurd, Bunnytoria, Summer Scathach, Martha (Why did you say that name!?), and Summer Martha
I think that's it
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That's Goddess Rhongamyniad, as far as I can tell normal Lancer Artoria only scales from Vorty
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Here is my list which I'll start applying now, tell if someone's missing.
The downgrade will be for the 6-As that scale to Teardrop Photon Ray and to dragons, which will become Low 6-B.
Teardrop Photon Ray:
Attila
Mash
Boudica
Lancer Scathach
Assassin Scathach
Cu Alter
Gáe Bolg
Fafnir Sieg
Sieg
Caster Sieg
Saint Martha
Ruler Martha
Vortigern
Servant Lancetoria
Lancetoria Alter
Bunnytoria
Jeanne Alter
Sigurd
Romulus
Romulus-Quirinus
The downgrade will be for the 6-As that scale to Teardrop Photon Ray and to dragons, which will become Low 6-B.
Teardrop Photon Ray:
Attila
Mash
Boudica
Lancer Scathach
Assassin Scathach
Cu Alter
Gáe Bolg
Fafnir Sieg
Sieg
Caster Sieg
Saint Martha
Ruler Martha
Vortigern
Servant Lancetoria
Lancetoria Alter
Bunnytoria
Jeanne Alter
Sigurd
Romulus
Romulus-Quirinus
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Finished.
So Atilla's first two keys now have the same tier. I say we should merge them. Cu Alter was amped by Medb using the grail, and he doesn't have two keys.
Servant Lancetoria's tier is a bit weird. She is Island level, higher with Rhongomyniad , Small Country level with several Restraints released , much higher with half of its Restraints released.
Lancetoria Alter has Island level, likely Small Country level with Rhongomyniad, much higher with over half of Rhongomyniad's restraints released
Bunnytoria has Island level, Small Country level with Bright Ehangwen, likely Small Country level with Rhongonomiad
Lancetoria Alter's tiering for Rhongmyniad looks concise and accurate to me (it is of note that Bright Ehangwen is just Rhongomyniad taking different forms). Should we apply it for the other two?
So Atilla's first two keys now have the same tier. I say we should merge them. Cu Alter was amped by Medb using the grail, and he doesn't have two keys.
Servant Lancetoria's tier is a bit weird. She is Island level, higher with Rhongomyniad , Small Country level with several Restraints released , much higher with half of its Restraints released.
Lancetoria Alter has Island level, likely Small Country level with Rhongomyniad, much higher with over half of Rhongomyniad's restraints released
Bunnytoria has Island level, Small Country level with Bright Ehangwen, likely Small Country level with Rhongonomiad
Lancetoria Alter's tiering for Rhongmyniad looks concise and accurate to me (it is of note that Bright Ehangwen is just Rhongomyniad taking different forms). Should we apply it for the other two?
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I'm fine with both suggestions
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Merged Atilla's first two keys since there are no longer different, and unified Lancetoria Rhongonomiad tiering.
So the CRT is finally done.
So the CRT is finally done.
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I believe so.
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Quick question would it be unreasonable for Archer to have Caliburn and Nine Lives Blade Works?
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I mean he likely does, but he never has
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Okay.
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It will be days before the full unofficial translation catches up to the description of the feat, but for now here is the map showing the crater:
Ireland/Scotland is gone. What remains of Camelot is the crater/pit/abyss, and Morgan apparently built a castle near it. You can see glimpses of it in the Lostbelt's trailer:
Considering that Morgan's NP is called:
Roadless Camelot
The Now Unreachable Utopia
It is likely that the feat is done with Rhongamyniad.
The map corrosponds with England (minus North Ireland and Scotsland), so we can get the hole's diameter with scaling. Though Dargoo was against using the Camelot map for scaling because it was too artistic/pictoral, the Avalon map is less so and we can directly compare to a real life map.
Considering that Morgan's NP is called:
Roadless Camelot
The Now Unreachable Utopia
It is likely that the feat is done with Rhongamyniad.
The map corrosponds with England (minus North Ireland and Scotsland), so we can get the hole's diameter with scaling. Though Dargoo was against using the Camelot map for scaling because it was too artistic/pictoral, the Avalon map is less so and we can directly compare to a real life map.
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I was more with just fk gawain that take the np of tristan (rank A+ NP) whithout scratch when she doesn't even have numeral of the saint activeIt will be days before the full unofficial translation catches up to the description of the feat, but for now here is the map showing the crater:
Ireland/Scotland is gone.What remains of Camelot is the crater/pit/abyss, and Morgan apparently built a castle near it. You can see glimpses of it in the Lostbelt's trailer:
Considering that Morgan's NP is called:
Roadless Camelot
The Now Unreachable Utopia
It is likely that the feat is done with Rhongamyniad.
The map corrosponds with England (minus North Ireland and Scotsland), so we can get the hole's diameter with scaling. Though Dargoo was against using the Camelot map for scaling because it was too artistic/pictoral, the Avalon map is less so and we can directly compare to a real life map.
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Hold up, how the crap we got the leaders of Oxford, Norwich, Sailsbury, and Darlington? Is there any leaks that we know them?It will be days before the full unofficial translation catches up to the description of the feat, but for now here is the map showing the crater:
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Leaks by the Atlas Academy Discord server.
Spriggan - Head of the Earth Clan,Governor of Norwich
Woodworth - Head of the Fang Clan,Governor of Oxford
Murian - Head of the Wings Clan,Governor of Gloucester
Knocknarae - Head of the King Clan,Governor of Edinburgh
Ainsel - Head of the Mirror Clan,Governor of the Lake District
Aurora - Head of the Wind Clan,Governor of Salisbury
Bogard - Leader of Sheffield
Percival - Leader of the Human Rebellion Army, Londinium
Woodworth - Head of the Fang Clan,Governor of Oxford
Murian - Head of the Wings Clan,Governor of Gloucester
Knocknarae - Head of the King Clan,Governor of Edinburgh
Ainsel - Head of the Mirror Clan,Governor of the Lake District
Aurora - Head of the Wind Clan,Governor of Salisbury
Bogard - Leader of Sheffield
Percival - Leader of the Human Rebellion Army, Londinium
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This thing getting crazier and crazier holy crapLeaks by the Atlas Academy Discord server.
Spriggan - Head of the Earth Clan,Governor of Norwich
Woodworth - Head of the Fang Clan,Governor of Oxford
Murian - Head of the Wings Clan,Governor of Gloucester
Knocknarae - Head of the King Clan,Governor of Edinburgh
Ainsel - Head of the Mirror Clan,Governor of the Lake District
Aurora - Head of the Wind Clan,Governor of Salisbury
Bogard - Leader of Sheffield
Percival - Leader of the Human Rebellion Army, Londinium
And any leaks picture for Spriggan, Woodworth, Aurora, and Bogard?
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