You seemed to be affirming that Goetia not damaging Avalon is a big deal.
I think I would hard disagree on most of the scalings that are in the wikipage of VS Battles as far as Fate is concerned.
Evil Nasu be like
^TRUE
Ok first I was a bit skeptical of your takes but now you're just straight up lying
Also I'm seeing a pattern here your game here is just repeating the same points again and again until you're opponents get tired and then you claim that you've won the debate
Not really. If anything, that statement resembles the tactic y'all are using. I've been observing this thread for a while, and Wankbreaker has been providing evidence to support their claims, with each piece of evidence logically following up with the claim and because of that making the argument valid and sound which ultimately leads to the truth.Also I'm seeing a pattern here your game here is just repeating the same points again and again until you're opponents get tired and then you claim that you've won the debate
I joined VS Battles ~4 years ago, and basically Nasuverse/Typemoon are the only topics I actually am active in.
Alright buddy calm down sure he's not lying and being unfair by nitpicking
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Yes, it essentially comes down to people running home with the highest possible interpretation, even though, as you said, those statements are and could be fundamentally wrong from a narrative standpoint. They either know this and choose to lie about it, or they genuinely have no idea, most likely because they've never read the series and don't understand the context behind those statements, which could result in some people instead trying to spread secondhand knowledge, if not something even worse.
You do realize you're free to challenge and ask questions regarding these things with Wankbreaker instead of accusing them of nonsense?
There's one detail I think you are forgetting - even a being surpassing a god would be between God-level and Planet-level.
imagine thinking Ea scales to Avalon in big 2024
So-called "omnipotent-universe-shatting-would-totally-destroy Avalon frfr" NPs when they consistently job to Avalon be like
Pierce what? The texture?Ok first I was a bit skeptical of your takes but now you're just straight up lying
Avalon was fine?
Of course it was , you're confusing intent with weakness , since when did goetia's intent was to destroy the planet. He wanted to reshape the planet but first he needed to incinerate humanity for the fuel why would he destroy Avalon since, Avalons destruction would mean the end of the planet since Avalons is the planet's inner sea
He needed fuel so he only burned the upper layer of the planet
Just because he didn't doesn't mean he couldn't
Goetia even say's this himself that his np would pierce the planet, piercing includes Avalon
Goetia's words:
Grand temple of time(section 12):
"That hellish moment continues. As she(mash) continues to block the heat that would pierce the planet "
Why didn't he destroy Avalon or kill Merlin as you're saying, it's simple, without Solomon goetia had no reason to believe he would lose that's why he didn't stop Chaldea even in the 4th singularity
Also I'm seeing a pattern here your game here is just repeating the same points again and again until you're opponents get tired and then you claim that you've won the debate
"There are many who have reached the status of a god as a human... but to think there could be one who surpasses a god while still human. No, seriously... what is that?! Her mental structure can't even be represented by a hyperdimensional cube!! It's like she’s got a universe inside her belly!"Alright buddy calm down sure he's not lying and being unfair by nitpicking
In the current thread he uses bbs lines to make it seem like kiara sessyoin is solar system level
But koyanskaya of darkness says this about Kiara:
"
Many humans may have reached godhood, but I never imagined I would ever meet a human who surpassed gods.
Actually, hold on a minute...
Her mental structure can't even be expressed in hyper dimensions! What the heck...she's making an entire universe in her stomach!?
Many humans reached godhood, but I didn't think I'd see the day I'd meet a human who surpassed godhood. Wait, I have a bigger question. What the HELL is wrong with mental composition? Not even a 4D cube'd be enough to give us a good visual representation of that. Who had the big idea of letting her build a universe inside her belly?"
Koyanskaya of Darkness/Dialogue
The following Servants have related dialogues to this Servant (sorted alphabetically): This translation was taken from a Reddit user ComunCoutinho. Thanks for all the hard work.
Why don't point out where I'm wrong if according to wankbreaker providing correct evidence and not lying about both kiara and Goetia
Never said that, my statement was that she couldn't get close to fujino at the time cause she couldn't see the distortions. Which is not a problem anymore given that she can now.
At the beginning of the fight she hid behind the buildings because she couldn't see her attack, I'm sure you read when shiki fought her head on when she could see her attack lol.
She's blind meaning her spell is dead, like I said scans of fujino being said to be able to use her attack without sight.
What slower distortions? Lol you keep reiterating this without proof of her distortions being slower or faster. Also she didn't sustain any further damage when she could see the attack.
This literally substantiate on my point in a more direct way, fujino dodging the attack was called an "accident".
I'm sure you read this part.
"The speed of sight" is completely disparate from the speed is dependent on sight, to elucidate on this, the distance between the two was to fujino's advantage as she only needs to look at her target while shiki has to cover a distance. Refer to my earlier point of fujino's ability being said to be higher than shiki's due to the way it works, shiki needs to be close while fujino just has to look at her target. And what you just sent solidifies that, the "speed" in context means she can kill things easily without taking into acount the distance between them as she just has to see her target. So you would need to prove that the distortions are faster without sight once again like I've asked.
Because at that point she couldn't see her attack, and fighting head on without being able to see her attack would be detrimental.
Nope there isn't, you just sent the scan yourself "fujino's ability actiavtes once you're in her line of sight.
Show scans of "faster" ones lol. Like I've asked for this numerous times already
Nope, I'm saying shiki would cut the spell before it does anything
I've explained why the ability of fujino would be rated higher than shiki's. The novel never stated she was stronger than shiki explicitly lol, send the side material scan. I can't trust something you say without looking at the context of what was written
What tha hell dawg. Do you thrive off head canon scenarios just to make it look like you're right?
Just saw
Not my problem.
Its existence is something that only a hater would use as a point on why shiki isn't top tier
Yes we all know the scene, and she did not want to give up the knife because it was the only weapon she could use to fight the faeries as stated here. And azaka only took the knife was because she was ontop of her bed and she climbed ontop of her. Let's not forget and derail from the premise which is "shiki never lets go of her own knife" amd she claimed the knife wasn't hers and only needed it to fight.
She was laying down and she could not react, she didn't even know azaka was coming to meet her until she actually did it. How would she jump from the bed when she was pinned down?
?? "STUCK ON THE BED" Are you reading things well or you just don't understand them.
She never said "attempt", she said "You're simply here to kill that which cannot die". Which shiki then proceeds to say "as long as it is even alive even gods fall under my knife"
So you see the difference "he was explicitly killed" whereas that isn't the case for shiki
Nope — it had him surviving and trying to fight her until the screen faded to black.
Okay, cool, character hyping herself up.
Will need to play roa's part to see the difference myself
Pretty sure he loses to all of them except for the Lb 1 kings
That statement was made from AE referring to shiki, so how is shiki hyping herself up?
Even the joke isn't funny
Tier 11 nasu let’s go!!!!
Now this is just me admittedly, but if someone named "Wankbreaker" came in randomly trying to overhaul the verse I've been working on, my first gut instinct would probably be to think they're not interested in a meaningful discussion. I mean, it sounds like they've already decided that the supporters are just wankers and that they're the only one that's actually correct, so I wouldn't really entertain that kind of thing to begin with
Breaker is just a reference to TTGL
the drill that breaks the heavens!!!!
i thought you had tons of nasu fans jumping on u because of the downgrades
Giga Wank Breaker!!!!
a lot of them actually saw my point for the void shiki one (there were a myriad of things I never put in the CRT, as I wanted the staff to actually read the thing.)
I'm trying to understand things from both perspectives. It's true you haven't tried to silence anyone, I just don't think anyone's gonna take too kindly to having their verse's ratings contested by someone whose whole profile is "I'm here to fix your wank." But hey, that could just be me since I've admittedly made no secret of the fact that I'm not a fan of that myself. I got zero issues with you yourself, I just tend to hyperfixate on stuff like that
Brother I wasn't saying they were acting in good faith either, I thought I made that clear. I said "neither side" for a reason
